The 2020 Presidential Race

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

HRC whipped the floor with trump during the debates yet here we are

In you opinion.

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Lest we forget, HRC negated to campaign in several states which won trump the electoral college....

Allow me to correct you. You mean won Trump the presidency. Didn’t none of y’all have a got damn issue with the electoral college until it wasn’t what you wanted.

Sore fucking loser ass.

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

In you opinion.



Allow me to correct you. You mean won Trump the presidency. Didn’t none of y’all have a got damn issue with the electoral college until it wasn’t what you wanted.

Sore fucking loser ass.

This is truth!

[S14rebuild]

Does it matter anymore? Shes out, truth always comes out. Our president takes down another bully and liar

[RalliartRsX]

Lol. Triggered much?

I have always had an issue with the electoral college as it allowed large swats of land to actually function as a vote. The issue is how do you balance farm owners with densely populated metropolitan areas. Every vote should be counted equally and allows this sham of an idea that one must campaign for 90% of the time in office vs actually doing your job that the folks elected you to do.

But again, please make more blanket ignorant statements as you normally do.

trump won the electoral college. Deal with it and stop being a little snow flake in hell when people disagree with your stance. Jeesss. It's almost as if you are about to have a freacking aneurism anyone as much as says trump had a bad hair day knowing full well dude wears a fucking 1990s chia pep on his head...….


P.S You dont win a football game scoring 3+ million points less than your opponent

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Lol. Triggered much?

I have always had an issue with the electoral college as it allowed large swats of land to actually function as a vote. The issue is how do you balance farm owners with densely populated metropolitan areas. Every vote should be counted equally and allows this sham of an idea that one must campaign for 90% of the time in office vs actually doing your job that the folks elected you to do.

But again, please make more blanket ignorant statements as you normally do.

trump won the electoral college. Deal with it and stop being a little snow flake in hell when people disagree with your stance. Jeesss. It's almost as if you are about to have a freacking aneurism anyone as much as says trump had a bad hair day knowing full well dude wears a fucking 1990s chia pep on his head...….


P.S You dont win a football game scoring 3+ million points less than your opponent

Man you are just obnoxious.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Man you are just obnoxious.

Yep. Triggered as fuck Hahahahah!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Yep. Triggered as fuck Hahahahah!

Please stop with the “I know you are but what am I”.

Also, during an “impeachment “.



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[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[VROOOM]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Please stop with the “I know you are but what am I”.

Also, during an “impeachment “.



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Clinton was at 73% while he was being impeached.

[gbaby2089]

I love alt-right extremists telling Democrats who should represent their party.

In other news: There are many things galling about the Trump cuts to SNAP, but perhaps most galling is the fact the savings amount to 1/14th (!) of the annual cost of the Trump direct welfare payments to agribusiness to make up for his trade war.

Welfare for the wealthy versus trying to keep poor people food secure.

[exitspeed]

Rollins: Impeachment sham -- I've served 4 presidents and never seen such naked, self-serving partisanship
Ed Rollins By Ed Rollins | Fox News

“President Trump’s scheme subverted U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine and undermined our national security.”

So reads the Democrat’s charade of an impeachment “report,” suggesting President Trump’s attempts to expose corruption in Ukraine were somehow politically motivated. The report’s author, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., went on to describe the president as “unbound” and “unaccountable”—because Schiff is a model of even-keeled temperament. He and other Democrats formally adopted the report a party-line vote, leading up to today’s impeachment hearing in the House Judiciary Committee.

Don’t be fooled: Schiff’s impeachment charade is exactly that, and it’s incompatible with the long and esteemed history of the United States Congress.

Anti-Trump Democrats have essentially hijacked one of the three branches of federal government by consuming Congress with a bogus impeachment process, which has only deepened our divisions while grinding government to a halt.

This is unprecedented. I have served four U.S. presidents, including two tours at the highest rank of White House staff as Assistant to the President.

I have also advised six different presidential campaigns, so I’ve lived and breathed politics for decades.

As chairman of Great America PAC, I worked hard to help elect President Trump, so I understand just how determined the Left is to not only undermine his agenda, but ultimately remove him from office.

I have never seen such naked, self-serving partisanship. Since Inauguration Day, impeachment has been the left’s primary agenda.

Mere weeks after his election, Democrats like Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., pressured President Trump to divest business assets that could pose a conflict of interest, supporting legislation would make violations of federal conflict-of-interest rules “a high crime or misdemeanor under the impeachment clause of the U.S. Constitution.”

Three years later, that same agenda has resulted in the impeachment “hearings” we see today. It’s a farce.

After the Mueller report predictably exonerated President Trump earlier this year, Schiff embraced a whistleblower whose claims would purportedly lay the foundation for impeachment. Within months, however, a supposed truth-teller was exposed as a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House. This was a Democrat who had previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden.

According to one National Security Council official, the whistleblower was “accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump.” That same whistleblower reportedly worked with a Democratic National Committee operative, Alexandra Chalupa, who conducted opposition research on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. He even invited her into the White House for meetings.

In the process, the whistleblower even sought out Schiff for “guidance.” That’s right: The whistleblower, a Democrat, worked with the ringleader of impeachment to remove a sitting president from office. And now we are to believe the impeachment process is “nonpartisan”.

Making matters worse, Schiff repeatedly lied about his contact with the whistleblower. In an MSNBC interview, Schiff infamously claimed, “We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower.” It’s a claim so egregious that even The Washington Post and PolitiFact—which are anything but pro-Trump—accused Schiff of lying to the American people.

The charade goes on. Schiff recently scrambled to stop the whistleblower from being named, while finding time to accuse President Trump of acting “for his own personal, political gain”—again, because Schiff is a model of nonpartisanship. Even as Republicans attempt to speak with the whistleblower, Democrats put up roadblocks at every turn.

David Bossie: Judiciary Committee continues impeachment witch hunt – But Trump did nothing wrong on Ukraine
Deroy Murdock: Impeaching Trump will hurt Democrats more than him
Harry Kazianis: NATO should die if allies won’t increase defense spending as Trump wants
As Rep. Kevin McCarthy recently explained, “[Schiff’s] focus—in his own words—is to send the president ‘back to the golden throne he came from.’”

Such partisanship is not only antithetical to our democracy, but it also sets a dangerous precedent for future dealings between a sitting president and the opposition party. If the Democrats can pursue impeachment now—when there are virtually no grounds to so—are we to expect an impeachment inquiry every four years?

How can Republicans trust any Democrat, when the Democratic Party has been hell-bent on impeachment since 2016? Imagine if Republicans had launched a bogus impeachment inquiry against President Obama, solely on the grounds of him being a Democrat.

In lieu of trust, what Republicans can do is mobilize. Based on recent polling, Republicans (and other Americans) are determined to look past Schiff’s impeachment charade and join together in support of President Trump.

The Democrats may have “impeachment,” but President Trump has a booming economy and the safest, most secure America in recent memory. I’ll take the latter, and so should you.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

"listen he is clearly a criminal unfit for office, but his policies are great for my massive investments."

Even as real wages for lower and middle class Americans are stagnant as ever.

Keep ignoring factual posts to spin propaganda.

What IS hard for me to ignore is the fact that my wife and I have seen more than a 180% increase in our income (which was already more than double the WI median) in the last 3 years.

Y’all keep on keepin on with your misery though. I’m gonna do me.

[exitspeed]

And hey, don’t take a bunch of uneducated, racist Trump supports word on impeachment, look no further than Democrat Presidential hopeful (one who I think is the most in touch with reality) Andrew Yang.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ut-impeachment

The benefit of being an outsider candidate is that you are freer to speak your mind than, say, a senator who is beholden to the party line.

That was part of the appeal of then-candidate Donald Trump in 2016, and it is likely the same reason why tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang has been able to make a real go of it in the 2020 Democratic primary.

Yang, who polls in sixth place according to the RealClearPolitics polling average, solidified his “outsider” bona fides this week when he came right out and said impeachment is a “loser” issue for Democrats.

Just imagine Sens. Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar, both of whom trail behind Yang in the polls, saying the same. They might actually have to vote on impeachment.

Yang's remarks about impeachment came amid a freewheeling interview with journalist Matt Taibbi and writer Katie Halper.

“What’s your take on the impeachment process?” asked Taibbi.

The 2020 Democratic candidate responded, “I’m pro-impeachment, but this is going to be a loser.”


“How dare you!” Halper joked.

Yang continued, answering seriously, “Not a single Republican has given any indication that they’re in fact-finding mode. They’re all in defend-the-president mode. You need literally dozens of Republican senators to switch sides when the trial starts, which we’ve gotten zero indication is going to happen.”


“The more this drags on, the more danger there is of two things: Number one, Donald Trump comes out of this and is vindicated, totally exonerated. Number two, we are wasting precious time where we should be creating a positive vision that Americans are excited about solving the problems that got Donald Trump elected, and beat him in 2020,” he added.

He went on: “If all that happens is all of the Democrats are talking about impeachment that fails, then it seems like there is no vision. It seems like all we can do is throw ineffective rocks at Donald Trump, and then it ends up leading unfortunately toward his reelection.”

Halper added, “It’s like good PR for him.”

“He’s a creature that thrives on attention,” responded the 2020 Democratic candidate, “and so the more attention he gets, the better for him, the worst for Democrats.”


Meanwhile, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Thursday morning that she had asked the “chairman to proceed with the articles of impeachment.”

For Yang, it seems like Democrats learned nothing from the 2016 defeat.


Taibbi said, “After 2016, the first thought I had was, ‘Well, this is going to inspire a rethink in the Democratic Party. They’re going to re-argue their case. They’re going to find a way to tell people how they’re going to fix the problems of ordinary people across America. ... Immediately they point to Russiagate, now impeachment. … They’re focusing on this thing that, to a lot of people, is an internecine phenomenon, a Washington drama."

“Unfortunately,” said Yang, “my team and I have been part of some of the planning sessions, and that’s not changing. Their take on it is, we argued against Trump wrong last time — this time we’re going to really stick it to him by talking about this. You’re like, ‘Oh, my gosh. We’ve learned nothing.’”

Democratic officials, activists, and strategists are likely going to hate these remarks from Yang, and he will likely catch heat for them. At the same time, he will also likely benefit from the appearance of being his own man and being unafraid to run afoul of his own party, a quality that voters seem to appreciate more than usual these days.

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Lol at the 2 articles of impeachment. What an absolute joke. Russia 2.0.

Shit is done.

[exitspeed]

And uh oh, looks like the FBI and the Obama administration has some serious explaining to do.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

And uh oh, looks like the FBI and the Obama administration has some serious explaining to do.

...... you absolutely didnt read the report. Literally the first line of the summary on the first few pages says the IG found no wrong doing by the Obama admin or the FBI.....


I'll pull up the report and the subsequent page quotes

CHS - Confidential Human Source
UCE - Under Cover Employees

Quote Originally Posted by Pages xvi-xvii
We found no evidence that the FBI used CHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. After the opening of the investigation, we found no evidence that the FBI placed any CHSs or UCEs within the Trump campaign or tasked any CHSs or UCEs to report on the Trump campaign. Finally, we also found no documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivations influenced the FBI's decision to use CHSs or UCEs to interact with Trump campaign officials in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation

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I honestly think all of this is he said she said and up for interpretation. It’s illegal, it’s not illegal, blah blah blah.

Stop wasting the tax payers money with all these fucking investigations that lead to shit. Both sides.

Let the elected president do his job and move the fuck on.

[exitspeed]

One day ago the USMCA and today this. This is how Washington should be operating. Compromise and passing legislation the people (obviously not every single person) want. Ie doing their fucking jobs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/u...leave.amp.html

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[S14rebuild]

^ i keep telln yall, TRUMPs gonna win 2020 election

[Future240]

No matter what side of the aisle one leans it is becoming more and more apparent the dems don’t have a strong enough candidate to beat Trump.

Biden - viewed as too out of touch by centrists And not left enough for the dems.
Warren / sanders too left for centrists.

Nominee is a toss up between Warren and Biden.

Both are weak candidates IMO.

MAGA these days is almost gang gang. Biden and Warren can’t stand up to that. Neither has been able to unite the dems.

The dems cannot decide what their platform is. Their eating each other.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-debate-lineup

[lewisfk]

If the POTUS is doing such a great job, why is the stock market fluctuating and investors nervous?


Why did the Feds cut interest rates? Third time this year!


Why has the tax cut not improved the lives of the middle class as promised?



Why is the Jobs numbers so good for this administration and not for the other? Especially, when the jobs added are low paying jobs, the people getting these jobs still rely on federal assistance.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Is your self-doubt so great that you're only capable of success as a result of Trump? Both of y'all keep talking income too.

Is money all that makes y'all happy?

When did wanting others to be happy and healthy become a weakness?

It is similar to the question I have for 'social conservatives.'

Does gay marriage change your own marriage?
Does the legality of abortion change your own ability to have & raise children?
Does fighting food, education and transportation inequity and segregation ruin your own life? (The answer to the last one is, if yes, you're a racist)

Your maken this WAY bigger then it needs to be...we were talking about trump...his policys have made my life better. Thats all i stated. So why would i not vote for him again.

Answer to ur last question is YES!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Looking forward to you saying I'm obnoxious because you can't articulate a response to facts. Trump does love the poorly educated.

If there’s one thing that you’ve made quite clear is you absolutely hate people that disagree with you. Your constant condescending tone and belittling is exhausting. I didn’t live my life that way under Obama and honestly I just feel sorry for you.

Originally Posted by Future240

MAGA these days is almost gang gang.

The constant attacks and elitist attitudes, displayed so perfectly by gbaby, are part of the reason.

Originally Posted by lewisfk

If the POTUS is doing such a great job, why is the stock market fluctuating and investors nervous?


Why did the Feds cut interest rates? Third time this year!


Why has the tax cut not improved the lives of the middle class as promised?



Why is the Jobs numbers so good for this administration and not for the other? Especially, when the jobs added are low paying jobs, the people getting these jobs still rely on federal assistance.

Wait, this is the first time the stock market has fluctuated? Huh, news to me. Come on. While is has fluctuated it has also bounced back to new records every time. And we know the reason. At least the main one and that’s the uncertainty with China. But we know that isn’t going to perfectly smoothly. It should t even be expected a

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Is your self-doubt so great that you're only capable of success as a result of Trump? Both of y'all keep talking income too.

Is money all that makes y'all happy?

When did wanting others to be happy and healthy become a weakness?

It is similar to the question I have for 'social conservatives.'

Does gay marriage change your own marriage?
Does the legality of abortion change your own ability to have & raise children?
Does fighting food, education and transportation inequity and segregation ruin your own life? (The answer to the last one is, if yes, you're a racist)

I’m pro gay marriage. L
I’m pro choice (mostly)
My wife and I have fought for children with special needs and have changed practices at the state labs that have effected every child born in this state since 2012.
We also donate thousands of dollars a year and hold fund raisers.
And when a homie needs some help financially I don’t even hesitate. I got them.

But again, you keep trying to paint your picture of me and other trump supporters and making assumptions.

[lewisfk]

^^I wouldn't call it racism! I agree with your post. I find it funny a segment of the country talks about constitutional rights, but find it ok to tell a woman what to do with her body. It's sad the POTUS had know idea what the ERA was about. The POTUS is no back on the rocket man bandwagon and talking about military action against North Korea, but has failed to pass the military spending budget. It looks like the military will start 2020 in C.R. Texas Judge just blocked the building of border wall, let that sink in. This wall is holding up the military budget, I wish Mexico would do their part! ��

[lewisfk]

^^ Really Exit, you missed the Feds cutting interest rates 3 times to keep the economy moving? Can somebody say Tariffs; lumber, steel, and agriculture. I believe those industries are getting help from the federal government; sound like a little cooperate welfare!


https://www.cato.org/publications/co...trumps-tariffs

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

^^ Really Exit, you missed the Feds cutting interest rates 3 times to keep the economy moving? Can somebody say Tariffs; lumber, steel, and agriculture. I believe those industries are getting help from the federal government; sound like a little cooperate welfare!


https://www.cato.org/publications/co...trumps-tariffs

Selective outrage. Solar, wind, EVs have all been built by government subsidies but since it’s in the name of global warming, sorry, climate change it’s ok.

And I’m not saying we don’t support those things or do anything to help the climate (whole different convo) but I’m saying if you mad at the fed doing what it needs to do to keep the economy going than you gotta be mad at that shit too. No?

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Lmao @ Andrew yang

Yea cause cause handing everyone free money monthly is gonna save this country...not to mention where is this "free" money comen from?

Hell these struggling " families" (more like single parent. Multi children. he seeks to assist already on goverment funding, we need to give them more. And dont get me started when there high tax return $ comes is...yea that $ is put to good use.

Biden will win the primary cause hes obamas homeboi. And then hill proceed to get destroyed by trump in the polls, debates and logic.