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Old 01-16-2020, 12:24 PM   #1
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But that's the thing; I am pointing out the simple fact that you are are making such ludicrous statements as "the best deal since" yada yada.....without reading a single word of the actual deal.

I get it, you don't have time. Fine. I have kids as well. I care enough about our nation to weave reading actual releases into my daily routine (if I take a shit, I go read reports). Instead of sitting here on Zilvia, I go read the release. If you truly cared about this country, you would spend the time you would posting in the Automotive thread and go read the actual releases. Or even better, spend the 3 mins you do commenting on the thread and break it up into sections;
2 mins for reading releases and 1 min for commenting here. There is simply no excuse to NOT read up on current events, ESPECIALLY when you find time to post here. You are essentially prioritizing Zilvia over actual digesting facts.

But with that, you cannot just simply make those broad unfounded statements you do on topics WITHOUT actually reading the release. That is my point; you continue to defend this admin with aplomb, all the while without reading a single word of the actual releases, reports or the trade deal. Are you not seeing the irony in all that?? Isn't that the full definition of willfully ignorant?? How is pointing out the fact you decided on your own to NOT read the very thing you confidently comment on as being passive aggressive?? How does that make any sense??

And I would like to point out, it is not criticizing the president when THAT IS THE DEAL THE PRESIDENT SIGNED OFF ON!! I am commenting on the deals he made.

Shoot, you took the time here to respond to my post and still didn't bother to read the trade deal summary...…..

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I liked Yang, he is my number two pick for VP. Can any of my fiscal conservatives explain this to me? Please remember the shit storm the previous POTUS took for bankrupting our children's future with debt and hand outs.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-pla...l-debt-4114401
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I liked Yang, he is my number two pick for VP. Can any of my fiscal conservatives explain this to me? Please remember the shit storm the previous POTUS took for bankrupting our children's future with debt and hand outs.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-pla...l-debt-4114401
Easy. Trump is not being fiscally conservative just as the past 2 potus were not.
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Easy. Trump is not being fiscally conservative just as the past 2 potus were not.
President Obama took so much shit for the debt while in office, and now the so called Fiscal Conservatives are no where to be found while this POTUS adds Trillions of dollars of debt. Tax breaks for the ultra wealthy has not spurred the economy as predicted, the GDP ended at the same level of 2016. The POTUS demanded the Fed cut interest rates THREE times because the economy was slowing down due to his recklessness.



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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/b...est-rates.html
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And Future, how would you propose one go about being fiscally conservative during a recession and also while being president?
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A few weeks ago I was thinking about this thread and one of my favorite quotes from Jay Z popped into my head.

“A wise man once told me don’t argue with fools. Cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who.”

I could post articles about how great the economy is doing, tell personal stories of my family and everyone around me thriving under the economy, etc etc and it wouldn’t mean anything anti Trump crowd. So fuck it.

Every time I’ve thought about posting in here I just thought of that. Hahahaha.
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A few weeks ago I was thinking about this thread and one of my favorite quotes from Jay Z popped into my head.

“A wise man once told me don’t argue with fools. Cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who.”

I could post articles about how great the economy is doing, tell personal stories of my family and everyone around me thriving under the economy, etc etc and it wouldn’t mean anything anti Trump crowd. So fuck it.

Every time I’ve thought about posting in here I just thought of that. Hahahaha.
Imagine thinking the state "the economy" and the well-being of (I'm going to make a fat assumption here) your privileged family are indicators of a good leader and that leader's effect on our population as a whole.
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Imagine thinking the state "the economy" and the well-being of (I'm going to make a fat assumption here) your privileged family are indicators of a good leader and that leader's effect on our population as a whole.
Arent most people only concerned with themselves and maybe their close family members?
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I certainly am not.
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I often think of a similar quote by Mark Twain "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
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I've noticed a trend: when the economy is doing well for the upper-middle-class and the well-off but not truly wealthy, I sell restorations. When the economy is doing well for the wealthy and ultra-wealthy, I sell restomods. I'm selling restomods right now.

That's purely anecdotal. As is the fact that a talented and capable mechanical engineer I know is struggling to find work in Southern California.
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Soooo. Joe biden states..... more then 1.5million americans have died since Vietnam......m what a 100% bullshit lie. This guy is a nut.


Why not just state true facts? Whys that so hard. No one ask for an opinion, or what u think...just asking for a straight truth fact. Fucking shame
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Soooo. Joe biden states..... more then 1.5million americans have died since Vietnam......m what a 100% bullshit lie. This guy is a nut.


Why not just state true facts? Whys that so hard. No one ask for an opinion, or what u think...just asking for a straight truth fact. Fucking shame
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veraci...y_Donald_Trump

You should be asking the person currently running our country the same thing.
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You should be asking the person currently running our country the same thing.

Fake news.....is fake news
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What makes it fake new? The wiki article has nearly a 100 sources.

I'm all for flagging real fake news but if you gone call it out, at least back it up with some facts/sources.
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What makes it fake new? The wiki article has nearly a 100 sources.

I'm all for flagging real fake news but if you gone call it out, at least back it up with some facts/sources.
Like biden's supporting facts for his information?
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Soooo. Joe biden states..... more then 1.5million americans have died since Vietnam......m what a 100% bullshit lie. This guy is a nut.


Why not just state true facts? Whys that so hard. No one ask for an opinion, or what u think...just asking for a straight truth fact. Fucking shame
Just to clarify, he said 150 million people. I wasn’t aware half the country has died from “gun violence “.

This right after he asked a crowd for their support as he ran for senate.

His dementia is getting really bad. Like not genuinely not joking.
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............It's amazing that Biden is held to a much different standard than the actual president of the USA in terms of just how many falsehoods they tell.........

Biden lies...."Oh SHIT! He has dementia. Ugh! Not fit for anything much less to be the president of the free world!! Ugh fucking leftieee!!!"

trump lies to a whole new level and and it's "HE IS JUST SPEAKING HIS MIND!!! locker room talk...."

Logic baffles the shit out of me hahahahah!
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............It's amazing that Biden is held to a much different standard than the actual president of the USA in terms of just how many falsehoods they tell.........

Biden lies...."Oh SHIT! He has dementia. Ugh! Not fit for anything much less to be the president of the free world!! Ugh fucking leftieee!!!"

trump lies to a whole new level and and it's "HE IS JUST SPEAKING HIS MIND!!! locker room talk...."

Logic baffles the shit out of me hahahahah!
So we’re clear, it’s not ok for Trump to misspeak and therefore shouldn’t be president. So Biden misspeaks and therefore shouldn’t be running for president. Right?

Or it’s ok for you to dislike Trumps inaccuracies but not ok to point out out others.

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Sooo u gonna just roll with what biden said?
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Ummm have u not read this entire thread... pretty sure the scruinty of trump is in every other post.

And no i didnt make an assumption..i posted the info...u chosed to ignore it and deflect(like others here) to trumps lies/problems.

Reguarding the fake news...love how fast the snowflakes show up and have an uproar.... its reassuring ur all still out there...cant wait for the 2020 denial and marching, acreaming for an impeachment(again and failed) gonna be great


So that 150mil....thats alot of dead americans.....
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For the sake of the value of my home & assets I will be 100% voting red. If the dems put out a candidate that made sense to me I would vote for them. I am a registered republican, with that said I voted for Obama the first time........Not the second time. I have many very conservative beliefs but some liberal tendency's. I try to vote for who makes sense for me & my life style. Yes I am totally selfish but do not give a fuck no one earned my money for me.

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For the sake of the value of my home & assets I will be 100% voting red. If the dems put out a candidate that made sense to me I would vote for them. I am a registered republican, with that said I voted for Obama the first time........Not the second time. I have many very conservative beliefs but some liberal tendency's. I try to vote for who makes sense for me & my life style. Yes I am totally selfish but do not give a fuck no one earned my money for me.

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