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Scams, Fakes, Flippers and Knock Offs.
So as everything explodes in price due to a combination of inflation, Nostalgia, hype and to many stimmys, thought it would be worth while to start a "heads up thread".
Like these - I see these banners, HKS, Up Garage and "Old" Nismo everywhere from $40 - $300 being advertised as "rare!! Hard to find!!!" I suspect they are all is just new print mass produced low quality banners. ![]() |
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I assume you have good intentions, but why should we be bothered if someone pays $20 for a Nismo banner?
As you mentioned, everything under the sun is "overpriced" right now. It would be more a valuable idea if there was a "good deals" thread, or the like, because those are the outliers. |
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It's far worse on IG with guys trying to peddle fake "original" memorabilia. |
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I?m having a hard time believing you guys aren?t reaching for something to get upset about or just trying to create a thread to be dramatic in. I also don?t look at these things on social media but the world is full of knock off products and opportunists, not just the tiny S-chassis world.
Dizz, weren?t you the guy who was buying things when you were in Japan and trying like hell to resell them here? It?s sounds to me like you are the exact person you are complaining about. If I was you I wouldn?t let these things get to you and enjoy your weekend. |
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Have I come across some deals while being here? Yes. Have I cleared a profit by seeing the 'going rate' and undercutting that price by like $200? Yes. I guess you're going to have to take my word for it when I say that I have never purchased something solely with the intention to sell. I always buy things for myself and then end up selling stuff I don't use. Nice try, dude. Hemming someone up for being a hypocrite is Internet 101. Please don't equate dudes doing this every once-in-a-while to the likes of sjerin and luckylabo...the latter of which routinely sells weebs 100JPY coffee for $9.00. It ruins my weekend (as I sit her bidding on YAJ for something I really want) because I can't even find fucking deals here anymore. Sucks.
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Hm I like this idea. Corbic what about adding to the thread posting of legit old school parts, memorabilia etc. ?
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I think that was an incorrect use of the 'spoiler alert' thing...but alright.
I also am not as much of a hardass as Corbic: I don't mind the reprint banners. The 'rare' verbiage is whack, but whatever. Since there was a new post here, I still find it cringe that SChassis dudes are repping luckylabo. The $9 coffee guy. C'mon, Zilvia...
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Yeah man. I mean saying they're 'rare' is probably what Corbic meant. Kind of insinuates they're real. No biggie, though. I get it.
Kind of funny you guys bumped this thread. Someone showed my the latest Jimmy Oakes video (never heard of him) and he went to this dude's house in NJ. Guy has a garage full of BNIB Nissan parts. The dude (nizmopartsplug) is waxing poetic about how he's trying to save parts from being discontinued. Let me lay one on you: My buddy just got BRAND NEW S15 rear valences from Nissan. Painted, all hardware, less than a week turnaround. Under $900. Nizmopartsplug: $1750 for unpainted valances.
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I bet dollars to donuts he's going to resell parts he purchased from Mav1178 with a very healthy markup. |
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I mean, money is money I suppose. People who are buying OEM valences anyways are silly. I get the whole period-correct OEM allure thing but that's usually the point where I'm like, 'nah. That ain't it.'
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Maybe I am just reaching ranting age, but yeah - for many of us, this has not been a pleasant transition. Again, nobody hates anyone making a few bucks if it is still an ok deal. I have made money on parts before, I have lost money before, and I have broken even before, but I am always fair in what I sell in my honest opinion. Doing it just to create profit is not my motive, and frankly anybody who uses the scene for such... kind of sucks.
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I mean, not for nothing, I don't see the allure of having an 'authentic' flag for your garage. I would happily pay much less for something that has such insignificant value to just hanging on the wall as a decoration. Would I skimp out if I wanted a real BRIDE seat or an authentic wheel or something? No. But something just sitting stagnant in my personal space - to me personally - why spend so much more? Cool points, I guess, but there is no memory attached to it for me personally, I don't see value.
Now, if I got that somewhere specific from someone specific and there was sentimental value attached, that's different. But you're buying this from some unknown to just toss it on the wall. I see less issue with it. Y'all are just old and finding a reason to bitch. There is a thread for that. Your rep turns red there. Ask me how I know. |
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i paid $45.00 for a replica NISMO horn button for my MOMO because paying $400 for one is just stupid. plus, hes a small business and one of my customers. would rather support him for doing quality shit, even if its a replica... better than a scalper on eBay or YAJ selling a $2.00 piece of plastic for more than i paid for my MOMO steering wheel!
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Given the absurd lead times for the parts I was trying to source, I could've been 10x richer had I went all in on the ~20 or so tech companies I currently own stock in. But whatever, if there's no profit for me then there's no point spending time to provide parts for a community that doesn't give a shit, they just move from one lowest cost vendor to the next.
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I am on the 'STRICTLY RAYS/ADVAN/OHLOOKATMEANDMYCAR' Facebook page and the prices for TEs blows my mind. I paid that price for my 86-spec TEs, and still sold them for the same amount I purchased them for. I didn't try to make a big deal about the 'limited run' as a justification to hike the price. I just made my money back on some overpriced TEs. Quote:
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He stated that a reasonable mark-up for time spent and services is totally understandable. He was speculating that someone bought parts from you (for a decent price) and then marked them up. Quote:
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No man, you are more than reasonable and I am happy to have done business with you a few times. That's not all all what I was intending man. I am more leaning to scalpers like what Dorki and Dizzariot pointed out, not someone who brings good deals and is a LEGIT seller for sourcing this stuff. Sorry if you took it that way. Happy with everything I have bought from you, you have offered MORE than fair pricing IMO.
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This is why I'm glad not to be a JDM fanboy.
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Mav, you're doing good. Like others have said, I don't see what drifter-M is stating applying to you at all. |
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Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I have some JDMcoolguyfanboi shit like ganadors and BN on my Silvia but other than that, it has shit I can physically call someone myself to get product. You won't ever catch me haggling on how much I'll spend for your glovebox cooler or NISMO ciggy cover. Y'all are dumb as fuck if you think that shit is cool. That's just me and you're entitled to your opinion but I don't see really anything wrong with what he's doing. The fact that someone went out of their way to make a thread about this shit is pretty sad and a waste of bandwidth. Then again, Corbic is the OP so it makes pretty logical sense. This means he was looking for an authentic NISMO flag or product to begin with which is pretty dumb. Buy some stock in Kleenex because you always cryin'.
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The issue isn't people buying and selling at market value to make a profit, its the people like Stephan Nismo on facebook or that other "JDM GOD" fuck head that got bullied off of zilvia that buy and price gouge the market praying on people who don't know better or don't care about money, which in turn drives up the whole market.
I understand as the years go on the parts are harder to source, which also in turn drives up the price. But Ganadors aren't exactly scarce, and the $1000 price increase in the last 3-5 years is insane. and don't even get me started on Blitz 03. Unfortunately, this is just happening across the board and I think part of the reason is social media and how easy it is to access these things now. I'm heavily into pitbikes, and the same shit happens. One brand that doesn't exist anymore overnight becomes the hot brand, and suddenly everyone wants their parts, and used parts are insanely priced. Its just people being people. |
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This is my standpoint as well. People be like "find another set" yet there's stock S-chassis, ganadors, Blitz, etc listed all the fucking time. It's all unnatural inflation started by just a few people deciding to ask outrageous prices and it spiraling out of control. Pretty much everything "we" are into has about doubled in the last 2-3 years. I don't think the supply or demand for these things has really changed significantly in that time.
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I think the problem is most of the people consider GKTech's ganadors because they're styled off the same thing. I've called people out on it and then stopped caring because if you're too uneducated to know the difference, then why should the seller be forced to educate you?
The market is determined by supply and demand. While people drive the price up, you should he thanking this kid. He's causing the price on these to plummet. Monkey see, monkey do in this world. When a price is listed, people use it as a frame of reference. And the ganador thing was just a comparison and not really a unit which I find prized. When they break, I'll replace them with whatever I have on my shelf - EastBears and Bomex. I could honestly care less about market prices on stupid shit like flags - either should you. |
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