Widening Wheels thread

[c4lvin]

Originally Posted by nativG20

I hope this is the right place to post this.

I have a pair of 18x8 +42 inch Racing Harts C2s that i would like to get new outter lips for. the lips are 40 hole lip. Effectivly i want a 9.5 or 10 wide wheel.

Here is a Picture to try and illustrate what size lips i have




Im pretty sure the lips i have now are only 1 inch lips given you are supposed to measure the width of a rim from bead to bead, so the curved edge seen in the pic above shouldnt be measured (please correct me if im wrong)

Again my Wheels are 18x8 +42 as of current

Here are my Calculations (provided i do have a 1 inch lip) If i add a 3 inch lip to my existing face and barrels i will be adding (-24) offset to the wheel which would make my wheels 18x10 +18.

(please correct me if i am wrong)

and 10 wide may be too wide so i was thinking just adding a Lip that is just 1.5 wider or a total of 2.5 wide which would give me 18x9.5 +25.

It'd be 18x9.5 +22, not 25.

[nativG20]

Originally Posted by c4lvin

It'd be 18x9.5 +22, not 25.

I forgot to divide the difference of the witdh, thanks

in an attempt to make this less confusing:

18x8+42 wheel + outter lip that is 2 inches wider than existing lip = 18x10 +18.

18x8+42 wheel + outter lip that is 1.5 inches wider than existing lip = 18x9.5 +22

^^^ if my calculations are correct

Thanks for all the help

[c4lvin]

Originally Posted by nativG20

I forgot to divide the difference of the witdh, thanks

in an attempt to make this less confusing:

18x8+42 wheel + lip that is 2 inches wider than existing lip = 18x10 +18.

18x8+42 wheel + lip that is 1.5 inches wider than existing lip = 18x9.5 +22

^^^ if my calculations are correct

Thanks for all the help

Easy way to remember is every
.5" of bigger lip = 6.35mm of lower offset
.5 of bigger barrel = 6.35mm of higher offset
.5" smaller lip = 6.35mm of higher offset
.5" smaller barrel = 6.35mm of lower offset

3 x 6.35 = 19.05 (just say 19 or 20 to make it easy).
stock +42 - 20 = 22

and then the 10s would be 18x10 +16

offset is calculated by the centerline (half of total width of wheel including wheel beads (1" larger than listed width, so a 10" wheel is actually 11" from outside bead to outside bead)) and the position of the mounting pad of the center. You can't just simply subtract or add offset to the outer lip alone. You need to take into account the total width of the wheel to determine centerline.

[mxracerjason]

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

I thought I'd add in here that VR Wheels makes replacement lips for VS-XX and Work Equips now too! I just emailed them to ask if they can make custom bolt pattern lips, hopefully they can so I can just build random pairs of wheels hahaha.



Only 195 a lip for 17X4s!!!!


Aftermarket replacement lip : VR Wheels WebStore, Presented By VR Motoring

This is fuckin awsome. I was searching with no luck for wider outer lips for my 17" VS-XX fronts. I'm gona get some 2.5 or 3". I think the fronts are 1.75 or 2" and I have enough room for 1" more and my tires will still tuck

[c4lvin]

Faces are here. Assembling them tonight when I get home.

[moco]

Hey nativ you still got your g20 its moesg20

[GabeS14]

Anyone know what other finish is similar to diamond finish, or a decent priced place that does diamond finish?

[c4lvin]

Got 1 rear and 1 front done.

Front and rear:

[95KA-Turbo]

Doesn't it suck to put them together? Hahaha, they look great though.

[c4lvin]

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Doesn't it suck to put them together? Hahaha, they look great though.

Haha, I find it fun. I missed rebuilding wheels; haven't for a while until now.

Thanks man!

[turbo2nr]

Originally Posted by c4lvin

Got 1 rear and 1 front done.

Front and rear:

looks awesome man , good color choice, i cant wait to get my lips and put mine together.. did you powder coat or just paint?

[c4lvin]

Originally Posted by turbo2nr

looks awesome man , good color choice, i cant wait to get my lips and put mine together.. did you powder coat or just paint?

Thanks man.

It's powdercoat called "Galvanized Blasted Aluminum" which tries to mimic sandblasted aluminum and has a textured finish.

[nativG20]

Originally Posted by moco

Hey nativ you still got your g20 its moesg20

Yep, still pushing the P11 around... i need my C2s finished already, im rolling on s13 SEs haha

Originally Posted by c4lvin

Thanks man.

It's powdercoat called "Galvanized Blasted Aluminum" which tries to mimic sandblasted aluminum and has a textured finish.

looks really nice, glad to see you didnt go with crazy lime green and purple. The texture of the powder coat you picked gives the wheels a nice depth to them, adds another deminsion to the wheel. classy

[IIIXziuR]

Those XX looking amazing in that finish.
How hard is it to dismantle and then assemble those, C4lvin?

[c4lvin]

Originally Posted by IIIXziuR

Those XX looking amazing in that finish.
How hard is it to dismantle and then assemble those, C4lvin?

Thanks guys!

I've built numerous sets of multipiece wheels before so it was easy for me. Taking them apart took about an hour and a half. Assembly takes longer as you have to torque each bolt to spec and make sure everything is seated properly. I spent about 1.5-2hours on each assembling them so far.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Anyone know what other finish is similar to diamond finish, or a decent priced place that does diamond finish?

anyone? plsss

[essforteen]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

anyone? plsss

Diamond cut on the face?

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by essforteen

Diamond cut on the face?

yes on the face

[nativG20]

^^my C2s are diamond cut faces too, i would imagine it would be costly to have them refinished in Diamond cut, as there is prob a lot of machining involved

[dazed]

Thoughts on re-building older Work wheels?

Specifically Work VS-Mesh. I know it's a pretty rare wheel.

[qwerth]

who has relipped britz O3?

[g_mac530]

Originally Posted by qwerth

who has relipped britz O3?

I think wheelflip has.

[atutt]

I forgot I made this thread.

Can anyone verify my math? lol
I tried figuring out what my offsets would be.
As I've mentioned a million times. I want my Veilsides widened.

All 4 are 17x9 +17mm.

I'll be adding 4'' to the rear, on the lip side since they're 3 piece rims.
And I'll be adding 2'' to the front.

Would this make them:
17x13 -40mm rear?
17x11 -8.5mm front?

Or did I f up my math?

[qwerth]

if your taking off the old lip you should probably minus that from the 9 inches Then add the 4 and 2 inches

[atutt]

I'm not taking off the old lip.... I'm widening, not narrowing. I'm not taking anything away from the 9''.
I'm adding to the outer lip it as stated.

[qwerth]

ohhh just kidding
lol

[blueshark123]

Originally Posted by atutt

I forgot I made this thread.

Can anyone verify my math? lol
I tried figuring out what my offsets would be.
As I've mentioned a million times. I want my Veilsides widened.

All 4 are 17x9 +17mm.

I'll be adding 4'' to the rear, on the lip side since they're 3 piece rims.
And I'll be adding 2'' to the front.

Would this make them:
17x13 -40mm rear?
17x11 -8.5mm front?

Or did I f up my math?

Yea your welding is better then your math lol. jk but you messed up on the rear set

For every inch added to the lip size the offset will drop 12.7 mm on the offset so

-12.7x4=-50.8 lets say -51+17=17x13 -34 for rear
-12.7x 2= -25.4 lets say -25.5+17=17x11 -8.5 for front

[atutt]

Originally Posted by blueshark123

Yea your welding is better then your math lol. jk but you messed up on the rear set

For every inch added to the lip size the offset will drop 12.7 mm on the offset so

-12.7x4=-50.8 lets say -51+17=17x13 -34 for rear
-12.7x 2= -25.4 lets say -25.5+17=17x11 -8.5 for front

I was 6mm off on the rear then. lol
I converted everything to mm, so that's probably how I messed up lol

Still pretty tasty wheel sizes. To me at least.

[blueshark123]

Yea that will still be great sizes

[CamryOnBronze]

Originally Posted by g_mac530

I think wheelflip has.

For sure- Yuta seems to really know his stuff. Very helpful guy to me so far!