2012-2013 NBA Season Thread

[enkei2k]

I understand that they were owned by the league at the time, but from my understanding of that trade, they vetoed the CP3 trade because they didn't want the Lakers to be stacked with 'superstars'. Do they not consider Dwight a superstar?

So now, the Lakers have:

PG - Nash
SG - Kobe
SF - World Peace
PF - Gasol
C - Dwight

can someone say, stacked?

[FRpilot]

where's the bench?

i think the cp3 trade was vetoed more because of other owners whining and complaining to stern. no owner is bitching about d12 because he is a headcase now.

[Dutchmalmiss]

If Lakers pick up Meeks or Barbosa, that'd be a good start on a solid bench with Barnes and Jamison. Althought, Jamison really can't play D.

Is this the first team to have a "Big Four" or what? Haha.

[ManoNegra]

Hornets is owned by the NBA, Magic isn't. NBA teams aren't happy about this trade but can't do anything about it.

[Riq]

Originally Posted by Mod

Damn Howard to LA, superteams taking over the NBA.

I wonder how many Laker fans think he is or will be the greatest, even if he wins 6+ rings

He's had Shaq, Gasol, Bynum, now Howard.. Not to mention Nash, the best point guard of the past decade.

I'm no Bulls fan either, I just have admiration for MJ. Gotta show some 'spect.

In a league where the Lakers, Celtics and Bulls have the majority of NBA championships I get annoyed everytime I hear someone make a comment about "Superteams" taking over the NBA. I understand that there are alot of new fans to the NBA that have zero clue about the history of the sport but the Media, mainly ESPN keeps adding fuel to the fire on this subject. The NBA has always been run by "Superteams" and the Small market vs Big market crap is bullshit as well. To this day the Miami Heat are a small market team but they're run better than most. Just ask Mickie about how much he makes on his T.V deal compared to the Knicks.... Hint: Heat $20M vs Knicks $120M per year. Yeah the League has always been unbalanced, it's all about your FO.


On another note, D12 to L.A? Best of all they kept Pau, someone should get the Knicks on the phone and tell them to take notes on how to run a franchise that seriously wants to build a championship contender without blowing their load on a overrated, overpaid wanna be elite player :cough: Melo :cough: Looks like we will finally have a Kobe vs Lebron NBA finals, 5 years to late but it will be good for the game. Too bad the Heat and Lakers can only play 2 games against one another during the season. Those games are sure to break records. The Thunder just lost their free pass to the finals.

Hey Phlip looks like those 3 bandwagon Thunder fans from the finals will be hictching a ride to the Lakers bandwagon come June. Better get your shotgun ready for them

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

If Lakers pick up Meeks or Barbosa, that'd be a good start on a solid bench with Barnes and Jamison. Althought, Jamison really can't play D.

Is this the first team to have a "Big Four" or what? Haha.

i forgot about jamison and barbosa is not a bad combo guard backup. jamison should probably start ahead of ron artest at sf, but then again defense. maybe artest is a better start since they have enough offensive weapons with kobe, gasol, howard, and nash.

i kind of thought boston had a big four when rondo emerged to pair with garnett, allen, and pierce.

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

NBA teams aren't happy about this trade but can't do anything about it.

nba teams seem to always not be happy when other teams get stronger. i'm sure no one liked boston, the heat, lakers, etc. when they acquire multiple current/former all-stars.

Originally Posted by Riq

big market vs small market

Hey Phlip looks like those 3 bandwagon Thunder fans from the finals will be hictching a ride to the Lakers bandwagon come June. Better get your shotgun ready for them

i think the media should note a medium market too. haha. small markets to me are like milwaukee, Oklahoma, new orleans, etc. medium markets should be places like orlando, miami, hell even golden state since no one really talks about them even though it is one of the most expensive places to live in.

i liked the fact that they kept gasol. bynum seemed to want to take control of the front court offense and gasol is good at that. i see d12 with his offensive limitations better suited laying defense and grabbing boards and let pau handle the offensive load.

i don't recall there were 3 bandwagon thunder fans. okc has real fans? it's a pretty new franchise, unless they were former seattle fans.

[Teddy Bruckshot]

I still think its likely that gasol will be traded this season, but other than that the lakers roster should be nice. Who are the bench players now??? Did they retain Matt Barnes and the others?

[Teddy Bruckshot]

I'm surprised that the Lakers didn't fight for Igoudala. I thought they would try and keep him as a backup sg /sf just incase Kobe got injured like last year. Kobe is still a beast but I wonder if he will be injury prone in these last couple years. Thoughts?

[FRpilot]

this is an interesting article on yahoo.

The Los Angeles Lakers are about to acquire Dwight Howard, because the NBA is the best/worst | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports

guy makes a good point that the magic took a worse offer this time around compared to the brooklyn offer of lopez, brooks, 4 first rounders or the houston/lakers offer where they would at least get one of gasol or bynum.

they didn't really get much out in this deal accept for a bunch of junk players (maybe ok role players) along with those 3 first rounders. some people feels that afflalo is overpaid with the new contract he just signed. i am one of those people.

and funny how they called igoudala the ultimate denver nuggets player. i feel that golden state was in that mold for a few years when they were acquiring a bunch of young talent.

Originally Posted by Teddy Bruckshot

I'm surprised that the Lakers didn't fight for Igoudala. I thought they would try and keep him as a backup sg /sf just incase Kobe got injured like last year. Kobe is still a beast but I wonder if he will be injury prone in these last couple years. Thoughts?

the lakers would have had to got rid of someone else with a big contract (gasol) for iggy and that's not that great of a trade.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shit, who would you wanna get for Gasol? The damn starting 5 is a damn all-star team already.

[enkei2k]

I think their bench includes:

Antwan Jamison, Barnes, Blake, ...and a couple of others.

it's updated on the NBA website:
Lakers 2012-13 Roster | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS

[Goofs]

I'm glad that the Nuggets got Iggy without really giving anyone important up. For once they'll probably make it out the first round.

Also, I'm not really happy that they gave McGee a $44 million dollar deal...

[WERDdabuilder]

add meeks to the bench....

Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Lakers agree to terms w/ reserve SG Jodie Meeks on a 2-year deal for about $3 mill. 2nd yr is team option. Meeks is 37% career 3-pt shooter.

[BarrigaS14]

Well if the lakers work out and not fall apart when they had shaq, malone, the glove, kobe...should be an interesting team. Their starting 5 all can run the floor. Then they can post up. Then they have the size in the middle to defend. They can hit mid to long range shots...The only liabilities are kobe's health, to some extent Nash's health (but he is usually pretty good with a few games here and there for his back) and Nash's d out on the perimeter. But...damn...

The long term risk is if d12 decides to stay after the season. lakers are rolling the dice he does since they got rid of bynum.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I dont think Bynum would have stayed anyways. I think teams will put up more money for him that the Lakers are willing to pay him after his contract is up.

[tricky_ab]

The Magic man wow. The last 20 years for them seems like a repeating cycle of fed up superstars, and bad management.

[FRpilot]

i only recall shaq and dwight fed up.

tracy mcgrady was pretty much traded. i don't know if he was fed up, but i think he was enjoying his time there as the lone man putting up 30ppg.

grant hill pretty much stole $80M or whatever max contract he signed up for from the magic. haha

[ray_dizzle33]

Bynum was a spoiled and arrogant player and I believe that there is a sigh of relief that he is gone regardless if he was finally living up to his long awaited expectations as an allstar center. Yes Howard left the magic on uneasy terms but this is business. He wants to win a championship and wouldn't be able to with the magic and especially in the East with the heat. Laker fans prepare for a bright future!

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

The league owned the Hornets having a bigger say in vetoing the trade. The Howard deal is not the same case since the league doesn't own any of the 4 teams in the trade.

The leauge still has to approve the trade. Every trade needs to get approved, even a trade of scrubs. It wasn´t because of owernship or conflict of interests or contractual details that the league canceled the CP3 trade, it was for......basketball reasons....whatever the fuck that means.

Either way...the NBA is so predictable. We´ve been hearing about D12 to LA for YEARS and we act suprised. Then again we heard about LBJ to NY for years and Riley dun flipped the script and upset the masses who love their routine.

Now people are predicting LA vs Heat finals just as OKC vs Heat finals was predicted last offseason, lets see how that goes. Is everyone forgetting OKC has gotten better every year? The Clippers have one year of gelling together and have passed through the playoffs and gotten better players?

How much different are the Lakers compared to the Spurs as far as the age of their stars concerned? I would say there is depth issues there, but what the fuck does that matter, they said the same shit about the Heat....which BTW picked up Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis.

Also, I´m tired of this small market bullshit argument. OKC and the Spurs are small markets.

[Phlip]

No, I did not let the lack of activity in this thread stop me from discussing basketball anywhere at all. Tasked with covering basketball on a friend’s blog, I took on the task of profiling teams’ moves and assessing them as the offseason progressed.
As moves made may have changed and will need to be reassessed as the season more closely approaches, each post is dated, so please miss me with “well [this] has happened since then”.
New York (7/19)

LA Lakers (7/23)

New Orleans (7/25)

Orlando (7/27)

Phoenix (7/30)

Brooklyn (8/02)

Boston (8/03)

Dallas (8/06)

Chicago (8/07)

Minnesota (8/08)

Houston (8/10)

LA Clippers (8/14)

Charlotte (8/17)

OKC (8/22)

Memphis (8/24)

Atlanta (8/28)

Miami (8/29)

If your team is not on this list, it is because no one has any good reason to give a damn about them, for better or worse.

[BarrigaS14]

Even though the Suns will struggle to make the playoffs, I am still excited. I think Dragic, if he continues to develop can be a good solid point guard. I also have always like Scola and was surprised we got him. I think think Frye has needed to go for some time now but for whatever reason they keep him along. I think in the next few years, with being able to get some good draft picks and maybe a good solid scorer, we might have a bright future.

[FRpilot]

Brooklyn Nets reach deal with Andray Blatche -- source - ESPN New York

I know Blatche is a bonehead, but nice pickup for the Nets. The potential is there and he can produce if he would quit being so selfish with the ball. If it doesn't work out, he's only signed on for 1 year.

[Phlip]

Rose admits trying to injure Kobe

To those keeping score at home...

• DUI Arrest
• "Uncle Tom" comment
• Shitting on the US Gymnastics use of 'Fab 5' despite the fact that US Gymnastics won
• and now this

... fuck Jalen Rose

[FRpilot]

at first when i saw rose, i thought this was news about derrick rose and was kind of shocked. then i realized you were talking about jalen rose and i'm not surprised. jalen is pretty much washed up now anyways.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I used to like J Rose...I always thought he was classy. I retract all that shit after that documentary he did a while back. Fucking ignorant dumbass comes to mind now...

Anyways, anybody saw this yet?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/N...lopping-092712

[theronin]

No more flopping? Well looks like the Heat are done then.

[enkei2k]

Rasheed Wallace to sign with New York Knicks Monday, back up Amar’e Stoudemire at power forward - NYPOST.com

What...the?

They should rename themselves the New York Retirement Center

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by enkei2k

Rasheed Wallace to sign with New York Knicks Monday, back up Amar’e Stoudemire at power forward - NYPOST.com

What...the?

They should rename themselves the New York Retirement Center

You shut your fucking bipolar mouth! By virtue of joining the Knicks, 'Sheed is the 4th best PF in NBA history after Amar'e, Karl Malone, and Tim Duncan in that order!

[enkei2k]

What are you talking about?

Sheed Wallace is the #1 PF of ALL TIME!! ALL TIME!!!!


















All time leader in technical fouls. At least this means less T's for Chandler/Stat right...?

[Teddy Bruckshot]

Ha ha. I think Sheed still leads the NBA in technical fouls!

REMEMBERING RASHEED

He’s not dead, but why not take the time to Remember Rasheed?

Rasheed Wallace was T’d up and ejected from the McDonald’s High School All-American Game.
“Some people say I’m mean and this and that. On one hand that’s cool. That keeps away all the riffraff and all the bugaboos.” - Rasheed Wallace

Allegedly psyched up teammates by yelling, “Let’s go out and play like we’re Chicago on NBA Jam.”
“Every time he took a shot he said, `Don’t worry young fella, I get paid for this. I get paid for doing this to you.’” - Kwame Brown, on Rasheed

Allegedly wore Timberlands during a mid-season Blazer practice.

As for Jalen Rose. I used to like him , but I am starting to see him as a a$$hole.
If I remember correctly he was defending Kobe on the night he scored his career
high 81 points. So payback has defiantly been dished out in my opinion.