Drift entrance techniques/form

[MrChow]

Originally Posted by CrazyRob

i feel that if you could control your rear traction better with the clutch youd be faster. and if you ran a slightly different alignment/tire setup youd be able to steer with the throttle and clutch a bit better.

I understand what your getting at with the clutch, the only problem is that I have a stock clutch still... with 195k miles on it. I know of the technique your asking me to do I just haven't been able to use it since of my clutch. Yeah my tires atm are effin up and alignment hasn't been set well...
Front
Camber -2
Toe Stock
Caster 6.5
Rear
Camber -1.5 -1.9
Toe Stock

I'm just dealing with what I have.... But for now I'm just drift my car like it's a underpower car. meh.

[CrazyRob]

more negative front camber would allow better turn in while drifting. you could prolly use more tire pressure in the rear fo sho, good call. you might aswell kill your clutch bro. lightened flywheels are amazing. your toe is legit for your setup. you have good steering control, if you put a lil more into your alignment thru trial and error youll see what im talking about. pretty legit tho. id seriously bump up the rear psi at least 15-20 psi. if your tires are wearing unevenly after a drifting event at that psi, try running a bit more positive camber in the rear. whats your dampening at?

[mikefc]

I wait until I get mid corner then just floor it.

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

^ like wise on that. I feint while clutch kicking to enter let off for a sec if I have alot of speed. counter. get back on throttle, feel the car to see where I'm at angle wise. floor it let off just a little to find the exact point to where my car will stay sideways (the sweet spot for ka). and clutch kick accordingly to keep it out while steering in and out simultaniously

[Xbroke_kidX]

I watched driftbible now im super fucking good at drifting

[CrazyRob]

Originally Posted by Xbroke_kidX

I watched driftbible now im super fucking good at drifting

siiiiccckkkk, daigo saito slayer huh?

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

haha. prove ittttt.

[Stratokat]

Originally Posted by Xbroke_kidX

I watched driftbible now im super fucking good at drifting

welcome to the club, we have t-shirts.

[angelus erratus]

meow. meow. meow.

[YoungGun]

CrazyRob is the king of the KA.

[nieko]

and I am the Queen!!

[nieko]

haha but for realssss rob KNOWS wtf he is talking about... he may be blunt, and he doesnt like being disrespectedddddd

but hes a legit brooo

brooosss

lewl

[nieko]

oh and that irwindale comment...

he was completely joking... he would never SERIOUSLY say i challenge you to a drift off LOLOL

and i really dont think he cares if he ever meets him, im sure he would be glad to meet him.

if you are really taking all shit to heart then all of you should probably just logg off... lol




on a side note...

rob... why the fuck would you say that retarted shit anyway?.... -_-

[GabeS14]

Did, you really need 3 posts for that lol..
If he doesnt mean to be disrespectfull then he shouldn't be.
that's the point.
He does sound like he knows what he is talking about, and can contribute to the thread, but respect is still due.
"If someone says go fuck yourself , suck my *** amd shit like that, to a complete stranger", online, I assume it's real, you should always post as if you were in person, that's my opinion.
If you cant back yourself up than you shouldn't act as if you could. because time and time again, we will all meet at some event or some meet, so why would you want to say something you dont mean?
E thugging ?

[irax]

but bro... he said hell crush him at the track! that is clearly a beckon for a legit show down.

with all the shit that slips through the cracks on zilvia rob gets pinked? for "suck my ******* *****" ? I guess its ok to talk shit about wheels, knock offs, legit parts, body kits, parts, and other peoples driving skill (only if you back down like a pu.... punk)

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by irax

but bro... he said hell crush him at the track! that is clearly a beckon for a legit show down.

with all the shit that slips through the cracks on zilvia rob gets pinked? for "suck my ******* *****" ? I guess its ok to talk shit about wheels, knock offs, legit parts, body kits, parts, and other peoples driving skill (only if you back down like a pu.... punk)

I had no idea he got pinked..
He can still post being pinked, at least I could when I was pinked.lasted a month.

[jspec240]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

I had no idea he got pinked..
He can still post being pinked, at least I could when I was pinked.lasted a month.

Thanks gabe for trying to smooth things out but he took it too far.

It wasnt just s**k my ****** it was the beginning where for 2 pages all he talked about was how he didnt like my thread. I actually do and have learned a lot. so all i did was say if you dont like my thread then dont post. thats when he got " offended "??? haha I think anyone would be pissed for commin up on your thread sayin its usless and didnt like it, then talk crap to half the people on there and then keep posting.

If you guys read the whole thing Im sure you will see why it got out of hand and I definitely didnt start it.

crazyrob got what he deserved.

Im having gymkahana practice at buttonwillow speedway on sat 25. if anyone would like to get a whole day in of practice PM me. Im renting the skid pad out which is pretty big. you can get some 3rd gear drifts in. 10 vehicles allowed, 60$ per person, and 25$ for other drivers. we set up many different obstacles so you wont be bored and take Ideas. Im bringing water, music, we have stands, and bathrooms for any one that wants to go to watch. great time for practing or beginners.

Im not a pro but have been drifting for 10 years so I can give some helpful pointers.

PM me if you would like to go, heres info on where buttonwillow raceway is located. Plans could change to willowsprings, I will posted.

[ericcastro]

Originally Posted by jspec240

crazyrob got what he deserved.

lol, right now i am laughing

[jspec240]

why so funny??

It is what it is.... and Im over it.

I didnt get on for a day and didnt see what was going on so I had to post my last comment but its done.

[fckillerbee]

I will also note that rob knows what he's doing.....

but that comment, was rob joking around....that man wouldn't threaten anyone...he wouldn't know how. Being banned for it....well it's zilvia. pick and choose....

Lets keep this thread going....





fyi for those that don't know rob, he is one of the 626 drift instructors, and knows how to drive the fuck out of any car with no power.

fyi.....he also has supreme ADD...or ADHD....

DRIFT N DRAGG- how longs the ban?

[irax]

except for a truck, no one could drift that stupid piece of trash!

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by irax

except for a truck, no one could drift that stupid piece of trash!

hmmm....i wanna try and drift it....lol. Whens the next time you are taking it drifting? lol

[roboticnissan]

Sounds like rob has 626 errogance. I hear that about all 626 drift crew members. He has to be the worst since he is an instructor. He might be great at drifting but disrespect and errogance continues to fuel the fire.

[GabeS14]

I wouldn't go that far, I know a lot of the 626 guys and they are great people,


Lets get this thread back on topic to avoid more arguing?

I was always curious about shifting, I know its not recommended to shift during a slide, correct me if I am wrong, but some times you want more and more speed, what to do then?
I guess because I am still not super confident I dont enter the bank at a very high speed but when Im'e already sliding I want to go faster and faster and sometimes It seams that the gear I am in is just not enough.
am I doing it wrong or just need a higher entrance speed?

[dpak]

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

Sounds like rob has 626 errogance. I hear that about all 626 drift crew members. He has to be the worst since he is an instructor. He might be great at drifting but disrespect an
d errogance continues to fuel the fire.

wait.. arrogance.. is that like someone talking crap on people they don't know?
I'm not trying to say that Rob didn't do anything wrong,
..but if making generalizations isn't a sign of arrogance, I don't know what is..
not trying to hate or anything, just calling it as I see it.
You can correct me if I'm wrong.

sorry for getting the thread off-topic again op.

[irax]

shifting up is touchy, I have done it in my old s14 only a hand full of times and that was going from second to third. From what I can tell it really depends on your contact patch and hp/speed. Bigger power cars can shift up all day long. But with a stock KA you gotta plan that shit out.

[fckillerbee]

it's a lot easier to shift up during a transition as the tires are breaking loose, but for those lower hp guys......you either can, or can't.

I always try to upshift at balcony when driving a car over 200whp, sometimes you'll get it, most times....not enough power to spin at that slow of speed.







<----- i support the 626 guys....i'm a dick to only idiots.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by irax

shifting up is touchy, I have done it in my old s14 only a hand full of times and that was going from second to third. From what I can tell it really depends on your contact patch and hp/speed. Bigger power cars can shift up all day long. But with a stock KA you gotta plan that shit out.

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

it's a lot easier to shift up during a transition as the tires are breaking loose, but for those lower hp guys......you either can, or can't.
I always try to upshift at balcony when driving a car over 200whp, sometimes you'll get it, most times....not enough power to spin at that slow of speed.

Yea it's exactley at balcony that I was thinking too, I never had an issue but not with not enough power, but maybe too much mixed with my beginerishness..lol
its an sr with upgraded turbo.
I got it a couple of times and the others I spun out because my 3rd gear was stronger than second I guess. ill keep practising I guess it's possible just depends on the smoothness of the driver.

[recklessrob]

upshifting mid-drift has a lot to do with the cars setup. youve gotta make it have just the right amount of "float time"(the amount of time it takes for the rear to catch grip mid-drift when you push the clutch in) and its best that the clutch pedal is adjusted for disengagement near the top of the pedals travel to reduce the time needed for disengagement and re-engagement.

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Yea it's exactley at balcony that I was thinking too, I never had an issue but not with not enough power, but maybe too much mixed with my beginerishness..lol
its an sr with upgraded turbo.
I got it a couple of times and the others I spun out because my 3rd gear was stronger than second I guess. ill keep practising I guess it's possible just depends on the smoothness of the driver.

remember....wheel speed- gear ratio.

If you upshift to third, you are creating less friction at "x" given speed.

Think of it in a simple mindset.

If the front tire is going with the road at 60mph, and your rear tires are drifting at 70, then you upshift, by the time you are at redline, your tires are now doing 100mph in the rear. Now think of a burnout....when the tires spin slower, they grip....same basis....only opposite....too much wheelspeed gives less grip....

which is why my ka pulls on sr's mid drift.