Maximum TIRE(Rubber) fitment thread

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

But isn't that maximum tire fitment on an unmolested car?

I ask that because if we go by your logic, we could cut the hell out of the fender and run truck tires.

So I think that he has a point of noting the max. tire that can fit our cars without destroying the body.

No, it's not, it's the maximum he's willing to run. That doesn't make it max rubber. Perhaps you should re-read the OP. While you're there view post 30.

http://zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1681750&postcount=30

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by BoostyMcZface

...do a slight pull and stuff a bigger tire

im not a fan of stretched metal... just doesnt look good IMO. also not big on wide fenders. my goal with my current S13 has always been to just build a great all around car, and thus far its been pulled off quite well. i prefer stock body anymore to wide/pulled fenders. also, once you pull fenders, there is no fixing it or going back.

[SoundEfx]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

anytime you start getting up into the +25 range on wider wheels, a roll and pull is usually necessary unless you plan on running lots of camber or stretched tires. my 17x9.5 +35 barely clears my rear fenders on my S13 with a 245/40 in the rear (i just have them rolled, no pull). running a 255 would require added camber (which i dont want to do)...

Originally Posted by jr_ss

No, it's not, it's the maximum he's willing to run. That doesn't make it max rubber. Perhaps you should re-read the OP. While you're there view post 30.

http://zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1681750&postcount=30

How does his statement of '17x9.5 +35 barely clears my rear fenders on my S13 with a 245/40' not mean max rubber on that rim size?

In my opinion he is providing vital information for people who do NOT want to ruin their fenders and run that rim size.

Again, just my thoughts, but some people have gotten so used to the pull, roll, stretched, flare scene, that if someone provides info that does not involve this, it's as if they're doing it wrong.

All of this is my humble opinion.

[LoSt180]

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

How does his statement of '17x9.5 +35 barely clears my rear fenders on my S13 with a 245/40' not mean max rubber on that rim size?

In my opinion he is providing vital information for people who do NOT want to ruin their fenders and run that rim size.

Again, just my thoughts, but some people have gotten so used to the pull, roll, stretched, flare scene, that if someone provides info that does not involve this, it's as if they're doing it wrong.

All of this is my humble opinion.

^^^Can confirm. Earlier posts in this thread are the closest I've found to what tire can be run on non-stretch, non-bubbled, stock body (rolled, not pulled) on a 17x9 wheel.

[silviaks2nr]

Not buying it.

Modifications are done to fit the maximum amount of tire possible. Isn't that what this thread is about, what mods and settings you are doing to fit what tire? Otherwise it would just be pictures of everyone with 17x9 +35 wheels and 245 tire...

"pull, roll, flare (leaving stretch out because it's not pertinent to this thread) scene" is not a "scene". Wheel arch massaging is a common modification, for decades, among all lines of motorsports enthusiasts in order to fit more rubber under a car. More rubber almost always = more performance

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

How does his statement of '17x9.5 +35 barely clears my rear fenders on my S13 with a 245/40' not mean max rubber on that rim size?

In my opinion he is providing vital information for people who do NOT want to ruin their fenders and run that rim size.

Again, just my thoughts, but some people have gotten so used to the pull, roll, stretched, flare scene, that if someone provides info that does not involve this, it's as if they're doing it wrong.

All of this is my humble opinion.

I get that it's the max HE can run without hitting his fenders, but that is not what MAX rubber means in this thread. That's not what the OP of this thread intended. If you have a 255 on an 8" wheel, that is absolutely worthy of this thread.

Simply put, a 245 is not "maximum" rubber on a 9.5" wide rim. A 265 or 275 would be maximum tire for said rim. A 245 is considered stretched on a 9.5" rim.

[SoundEfx]

I am not saying that rolling, pulling, flaring... etc is not acceptable, to each their own.

What I am saying is to say that his information is irrelevant is a bit short sighted.

With that you're saying, your point of only MAX rubber is reaching towards the 12 inch wide rims with flare on flare body panels and ridiculous front tires. Is THAT the point of this thread?

[s14hunter]

Originally Posted by BoostyMcZface

any pictures sitting on the ground? looks like it fits really well.

The car isn't ready for the road yet, but it's pretty close so here ya go:

[tb13]

Here is the setup going on my Two-Tone, nothing crazy, but its meaty so I figured it fits in here!

17x9 +15 5Zigen FN01R-C
Sumitomo HTRZIII 255/40r17 square

My car has 100% stock fenders so I am going to have to massage them a bit to get these to fit. It'll be worth it though

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

I am not saying that rolling, pulling, flaring... etc is not acceptable, to each their own.

What I am saying is to say that his information is irrelevant is a bit short sighted.

With that you're saying, your point of only MAX rubber is reaching towards the 12 inch wide rims with flare on flare body panels and ridiculous front tires. Is THAT the point of this thread?

No, that's not what I am saying at all. His information isn't necessarily irrelevant, if a larger(wider) tire were to be used. I have an S14, however, the information that follows is relevant. I have a 10" wheel, with 285's. I have no fender flares, stock sheet metal, with a roll. I designed it that way. A 285 has a recommended measured rim width of 10", with 9.5" being the lowest rim width it should be run on. Could I get more rubber, yes, plenty of room for that. Would I need to change my wheel setup for that? It's likely.

Tires have a rim width range recommended they fit on. In order for it to be considered a "max" setup, your tire should fall in the lower portion of that range. For instance, a 245 can fit on to as narrow as a 8" rim, with 8.5" being ideal. A 9.5" is at the top of the range bordering stretch territory with 245's. Therefore, regarding it as not max tire.

Yes, it is the maximum he can fit or so chooses to fit, but not for those wheels and their given width.

[SoundEfx]

Maybe you don't know the meaning of maximum, so let me ask this,
Can you fit a 290or295/30or35 tire on your car?

Because if the answer is yes, then you do NOT have the maximum tire and according to your owner words, your info is irrelevant.

If the answer is no, then that means my point is proven because with the space given, the tire you have is the MAX you can fit.

[jr_ss]

Listen, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about the definition of maximum. His setup does not fall in the category of maximum tire for that rim or the chassis in general. IT IS the max he can comfortably fit, as stated, but apparently you've failed to recognize that. Not only was that stated, I laid out plainly why his setup, like others have posted before him, is not a maximum rubber setup. 245's on a 9.5 just don't fit in this thread, sorry get over it. I'm not sure why you think turning this to personal attacks was warranted or necessary, it's a heated debate about someone else's setup, that doesn't belong, get over it.

[dorkidori_s13]

well i dont plan on going anywhere seeing as i really like this thread and have at least TRIED to be part of it!

guess theres always someone who takes things way too seriously in every crowd... for fucks sake, were 240sx owners, not goddamn lambo owners!

[derass]

Originally Posted by tb13

17x9 +15 5Zigen FN01R-C
Sumitomo HTRZIII 255/40r17 square

My car has 100% stock fenders so I am going to have to massage them a bit to get these to fit. It'll be worth it though

Looking forward to how this turns out! I have the 17x9 +20 FN01R-C and currently use 235/40R17 with a bit of room under fenders that are only rolled. I've also used 245/40R17 and that was about the maximum I could fit without pulling the fenders. I'd like to go 255/40, but not sure of how much metal-work will be required.

ka-titties posted his setup of 17x9 +22 with 255/40 on his stock metal S13 on pg. 115, but he needed a pull in the rear. I'm curious how much you're going to need with the wheels an extra 7mm outboard.

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

well i dont plan on going anywhere seeing as i really like this thread and have at least TRIED to be part of it!

guess theres always someone who takes things way too seriously in every crowd... for fucks sake, were 240sx owners, not goddamn lambo owners!

Dorki, don't take what follows personally;

It's not that I take things seriously, but just like this forum, this thread has rules and guidelines to abide by. If a mod can't follow simple rules, what kind of example does that set for other members of this forum?

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

[BoostyMcZface]

Originally Posted by s14hunter

The car isn't ready for the road yet, but it's pretty close so here ya go:

Makes me wish I went with 17s, though my specs aren't too far off for 18s.. This is perfect man, and interested to know how well they hook with the LS. How's the swap going?

[s14hunter]

Originally Posted by BoostyMcZface

Makes me wish I went with 17s, though my specs aren't too far off for 18s.. This is perfect man, and interested to know how well they hook with the LS. How's the swap going?

Thanks man. I went to fire it up last night, and the fuel pump is dead. Guy before me ran E85 and it sat for awhile. So it's done. Good thing I get the hookup at Aeromotive and they're right down the street from me

[tb13]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

well i dont plan on going anywhere seeing as i really like this thread and have at least TRIED to be part of it!

guess theres always someone who takes things way too seriously in every crowd... for fucks sake, were 240sx owners, not goddamn lambo owners!

People just love to start drama, just ignore them

Originally Posted by derass

Looking forward to how this turns out! I have the 17x9 +20 FN01R-C and currently use 235/40R17 with a bit of room under fenders that are only rolled. I've also used 245/40R17 and that was about the maximum I could fit without pulling the fenders. I'd like to go 255/40, but not sure of how much metal-work will be required.

ka-titties posted his setup of 17x9 +22 with 255/40 on his stock metal S13 on pg. 115, but he needed a pull in the rear. I'm curious how much you're going to need with the wheels an extra 7mm outboard.

Its going to be interesting. I think some camber will make them fit much better, I'm not going to pass 2.5* up front or 1.5* in the rear though. I'll be posting pictures when its done for sure!

[BoostyMcZface]

Originally Posted by s14hunter

Thanks man. I went to fire it up last night, and the fuel pump is dead. Guy before me ran E85 and it sat for awhile. So it's done. Good thing I get the hookup at Aeromotive and they're right down the street from me

Ah bummer man. I run a 340 Aeromotive in my 370, since my Walbro 255 shit the bed on the dyno during tuning lol.. What size are you going to use? I think I'm going to use another 340 for my LS swap.

[s14Art]

Originally Posted by Bubbles240

Do you think if you had gone a 10.5 +30 you would have room on the inside?

Absolutely, there's still more room there. Not sure about anything higher than 30, but 30 for sure will fit.

[silviaks2nr]

It would depend on your coilover or shock/spring setup. With my coilovers 18x11+30 is basically touching the coilover. Hardly 1mm to spare.

[rawgarage]

Originally Posted by silviaks2nr

It would depend on your coilover or shock/spring setup. With my coilovers 18x11+30 is basically touching the coilover. Hardly 1mm to spare.

Coils play a role

[warningx]

Originally Posted by [240sx]

^^ yeah, yeah... don't rub it in.lol


How does the KA do with all that rubber? You didn't mention what tires you had.

It grips, lol. I'm running Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2's on it. With an open diff I still get that one wheel peel on hard 1-2 shifts But the tires were also still brand new, so that could also be why it would still spin.

[TarmacJunkie53]

Originally Posted by warningx

It grips, lol. I'm running Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2's on it. With an open diff I still get that one wheel peel on hard 1-2 shifts But the tires were also still brand new, so that could also be why it would still spin.

I've got a spare z32 diff with 3x2 halfshafts. Its a 4.08 ring gear but I do happen to have a 3.69 ring gear if you're running a v8. Edit just saw that you're running a ka

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[Black R]

Who all is running 285's or wider up front?

I only know a couple of the SM guys are, but I'm trying to figure out which suspension parts to purchase.

[s14hunter]

Originally Posted by BoostyMcZface

Ah bummer man. I run a 340 Aeromotive in my 370, since my Walbro 255 shit the bed on the dyno during tuning lol.. What size are you going to use? I think I'm going to use another 340 for my LS swap.

I bought the car with the fuel system already in it. The pump was an old CarTech pump that Aeromotive built for them back in like 1998 It was basically an A1000. So I put a new Aeromotive A1000 in it

Here's a video of me firing it up for the first time!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0V...ew?usp=sharing

[NissanRWD]

-S14

-5zigen 17x9 +22 offset

-Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2
---deciding between 255/40/17 or 245/45/17

-stock, no bolt ons, function/form type 2 coilovers

-Street but eventually track/autoX

Concerned about clearance issues and rubbing. I don't plan on going lower except maybe a little in the rear. Currently on cheap ass Accelera Alpha 235/45/17 with slight rubbing at full lock but not enough to hear or feel. Gonna measure everything with a tape measure but thought i'd hit up zilvia

245/45 or 255/40?

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[Black R]

Originally Posted by s14hunter

I bought the car with the fuel system already in it. The pump was an old CarTech pump that Aeromotive built for them back in like 1998 It was basically an A1000. So I put a new Aeromotive A1000 in it

Here's a video of me firing it up for the first time!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0V...ew?usp=sharing

Haha it totally doesn't look like it would sound like that!

[Lees_Garage]

Just installed 17x9 +25 WedsSport TC105N w/ 255/40 Hankook Ventus RS-3's on my S13. Still have to dial in the ride height and alignment. Also had to install a 5mil spacer up front for coilover clearance.

[Black R]

Test fitting 285's up front on 18x10 et +18.

It looks like they'll need a 15mm spacer to keep from rubbing the coilovers.