Gaming PC Builds & Hardware

[BOROSUN]

After reading the buildzoid thread. Early Vega hbm2 will be only hynix. That's a bummer.

[tb13]

Originally Posted by ANANDTECH

One of the key takeaways from this, besides the expected higher prices of GDDR6 and HBM2 memory from SK Hynix, is the fact that this confirms that the company has not started mass production of HBM2 quite yet. For the time being then, this leaves Samsung as the only HBM2 manufacturer shipping in volume, which means I wouldn't be surprised if we see the company's 4-Hi HBM2 stacks show up on AMD's forthcoming HBM2-based RX Vega video cards.

Reading this anandtech article, seems like Samsung is the only current mass manufacture of HBM2. Don't think Hynix has enough HBM2 ready to supply RX Vega.

[BOROSUN]

this what he was talking about...
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rum...ynix-hbm2.html

https://videocardz.com/65649/sk-hyni...ble-in-q1-2017
hynix have been making hbm since last year.

[BOROSUN]

if you're wondering which memory you should get for TR. faster the better.

also checked nxtz s340 can squeeze in a e-atx. yes.

[tb13]

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

if you're wondering which memory you should get for TR. faster the better.

also checked nxtz s340 can squeeze in a e-atx. yes.

Very similar to how the R7 and R5 cpu's perform with faster ram, wouldn't even consider anything lower than 3200MHz when building a Ryzen system.

Seriously excited to see more benchmarks in the coming weeks. I've already decided on a Threadripper 1900X and a Gigabyte Aorus X399, probably paired with a SLi 980Ti's unless the Vega 64 drops and is awesome. X399 platform should be a great investment for the next 4 years or so since AMD doesn't require new motherboards when they release new CPU's.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by tb13

AMD doesn't require new motherboards when they release new CPU's.

About that......

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...erboard-socket

My planned build waiting on vega. I already have a case and mouse.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($147.20 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($152.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($537.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($148.34 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1663.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-05 20:34 EDT-0400

[tb13]

Originally Posted by Future240

About that......

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...alm::facepalm:

Exactly the shit I am talking about. X299 magically supports 4 core up to 18 cores with the same chipset, yet for some reason Z270 won't support a 6 core CPU. Intel could add the support easily, but they'd rather sell a bunch of new chipsets along with the new CPU's they are releasing.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by tb13

Exactly the shit I am talking about. X299 magically supports 4 core up to 18 cores with the same chipset, yet for some reason Z270 won't support a 6 core CPU. Intel could add the support easily, but they'd rather sell a bunch of new chipsets along with the new CPU's they are releasing.

Yeap because so many fanbois will just buy intel saying how it gets 256fps in overwatch and the R5 series faaaiiilllls because it "only" gets 205 .

[BOROSUN]

truth though, coffee lake is going to beast on games. boost 1x 4.7/ 6x 4.3 with ipc advantage. it finally can beat ryzen on crysis. lol. still... it's all about pricing. which intel always lose.

hopefully, amd dont get cocky and keeps matching intel with price/performance and bust out zen+. (pinnacle ridge zen2 projected timeline is 2018)

i forgot about ravenridge. 8core raven ridge, possible?

[tb13]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636009/r...ench-3-results

Threadripper is looking better and better, these benchmarks show Threadripper matching Intel's IPC and delivering some insane multi-threaded performance. 1900X here I come

http://www.overclock.net/t/1635992/o...8100-cpus-leak

This rumor from the blue team is interesting too, unlocked quad core i3 with a 4GHz clock. Really interested to see where these sit in the price stack of they are real SKU's

[Future240]

Originally Posted by tb13

http://www.overclock.net/t/1635992/o...8100-cpus-leak

This rumor from the blue team is interesting too, unlocked quad core i3 with a 4GHz clock. Really interested to see where these sit in the price stack of they are real SKU's

Depending on price this could be a great budget chip. Knowing intel though I bet they charge $175-210 for it.

[BOROSUN]

wonky HDR

[BOROSUN]

what to expect on monday?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ance_seems_ok/

good thing asus x399 zenith was out of stock. i would have gotten it. now, theres recall of defects on a $500+ mobo. pretty lame QC.
so, decided to wait a little bit to see any problems comes up. eyeing on the asrock pro which has aquantia 10gb lan and $100 cheaper.
asus only costs $500 its cause of the $200 ROG AREION 10G CARD!

for some reason no one is grabbing the msi boards. its got 13 p-phase! no reviews on it. makes me hesitant.

[BOROSUN]

this needs to stop...
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...e-Ryzen-7-984/
payed by intel

[tb13]

Well Vega performance numbers are out, Newegg is sold out of the 64 and the price is up $100 over msrp already...

Guess I'll be sticking with my 980ti...

[BOROSUN]

yeah, wtf. i blinked and it was all gone.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/32151...64-tested.html
absolute horse shit review

Does Radeon RX Vega wrest the performance crown from the ferocious GeForce GTX 1080 Ti? Spoiler alert: Not even close.
performance crown....?

















https://techgage.com/article/a-look-...e-performance/

[BOROSUN]

56 ref cards have a voltage lock via bios.
might be a while to get it to oc to a 64.

[BOROSUN]

joker's review matchup

[tb13]

I'm holding out to see what board partners drop, the 56 seems solid, but its over clocking limitations make me not interested in buying one. Once we get a hacked BIOS or a non-reference card with a non-power limited BIOS my 980ti isn't going anywhere.

I am still really wanting a threadripper setup, pretty much only holding off until I see the 1900x performance numbers. Fingers crossed it overclocks better then the 1950x/1920x due to only having 4 cores per die.

[BOROSUN]

RX vega dont like AA.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by tb13

I'm holding out to see what board partners drop, the 56 seems solid, but its over clocking limitations make me not interested in buying one. Once we get a hacked BIOS or a non-reference card with a non-power limited BIOS my 980ti isn't going anywhere.

Cosigned. The 470 stays until aib rx vega 56. Looking at XFX to make a card.

[BOROSUN]

this early bench says it all...

a couple of months vega will pass or match Ti

[tb13]

Non-reference Vega 64

Well the Vega 64 picked up little to no performance with a larger non-reference PCB/cooler design. Still have high hopes for the 56, but seeing this card is priced above the current price hike, there is no way I will be getting a Vega.

[BOROSUN]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ng,5177-3.html

How many reviews are gonna do this? Are they that dumb? Oc to 1800 but sees little improvement...wtf. I thought they know oc memory on Vega has better improvements.

[tb13]

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ng,5177-3.html

How many reviews are gonna do this? Are they that dumb? Oc to 1800 but sees little improvement...wtf. I thought they know oc memory on Vega has better improvements.

I read somewhere that the core OC wasn't actually applying properly, all of these reviewers saying they are getting 1800+mhz from the core with a 2% performance boost.

[BOROSUN]

amd needs to check yourself , before you wreck yourself.

[Future240]

I am still likely to pickup a 56. Just what I need for this build i am planning

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($226.68 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($151.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($118.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB Video Card
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - PB277Q 27.0" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1525.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-19 09:03 EDT-0400

[BOROSUN]

hopefully, amd planned a lot more 56 then 64.

[BOROSUN]

Originally Posted by tb13

I read somewhere that the core OC wasn't actually applying properly, all of these reviewers saying they are getting 1800+mhz from the core with a 2% performance boost.

[tb13]

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

Yuuuppp, exactly what I am talking about. Honestly with their power consumption, I wouldn't be surprised if AMD made this "bug" on purpose. They knew reviewers would be testing for power consumption so they made the cards so they wouldn't properly overclock through a software "bug". Thats just me being a conspiracy theorist though