Subaru BRZ = 240sx Successor

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Yeah, so basically.... Fuck weight distribution, right?

Meh. LS1 is light (for what it is). The T/56 is a mother-fucker but any trans in that category is going to be over 100lbs as well.

If they set the engine back (very possible) weight distribution won't be that bad.

55/45 should be hella easy.

[simmode1]

^^^I was commenting on the 2jz swap. I mean, it's one thing to screw up the weight distribution of a ho-hum/ancient chassis like the 240, but this? Man, the 2jz is alot heavier than an LS1 and sits so far ahead of the strut towers. Car's gotta be super nose heavy now...

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by simmode1

I just don't see the point of owning multiple rwd, 2+2's for the average enthusiast anymore. Been there, done that. Wish I had kept my S13 and bought an SUV/truck instead of two more 240's. That was so dumb in retrospect.

I can agree with this. Except for owning a S30. A S30 is something that at this point in time is meant to be driven occasionally. Now on the other side of things. I own a 240 and a G20/Primera . I can totally see the daily driver not meant to be the all out sports car. Even though I could buy a BRZ , I would most likely lose the 240 . Though I cannot bring myself to buy a new car. Nope , sorry , nada, let someone else eat the 30% the minute you drive it off the lot depreciation. Not for me man, used down the road maybe. A 350Z or 370Z would be much higher up the list at this time.
In a few years that could change.
Till then its my 240 and whatever the hell I decided to do with it and a daily. Even If I buy a 350Z I still think a daily would be handy.

[future]

I'm think about waiting like five years to get a used one. Cause buy then the i could find a second gen used. I don't like the idea of a first gen car. And just like the Gen coupe i think in three or four years the will release a FRS with a lot more power. Im sure People who bought then G.C. New are jealous of the guys he have new ones now making 70more bhp

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by future

. Im sure People who bought then G.C. New are jealous of the guys he have new ones now making 70more bhp

Somewhat. 1st gens are easier to mod at this point. A tune gives you almost as much power as the 2nd puts down at the wheels. But yeah, the 2nd gen does have better hardware.

[O3DigitalBath]

I recently shot a few pics of Enjuku's FR-S...first one I've got a chance to edit:

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by O3DigitalBath

I recently shot a few pics of Enjuku's FR-S...first one I've got a chance to edit:

That is an awesome shot! Perfect for desktop.

[exitspeed]

Damn that car is just exactly what I wanted it to be.

[simmode1]

I guess the FRS is like "2jz nose heavy? No care."

[simmode1]

So apparently the FRS goes around Willow Springs 2 seconds faster with factory Star Specs on 17's. Seems like you're gonna want to run 35 profiles on any 18's though.

[future]

Moar pictures of the red on

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Man, these cars must suck.

[simmode1]

Goodamn! Is it just me or does it seem like these are getting destroyed at an alarming rate? Its light weight, but it seems like they crumple like a tin can..

Saw my first FRS today. I'm still not a fan of these things, but they sure are nice to look at. Its alot more curvier than the pics show online. Much swoopier than I thought it'd be. I enjoyed blowing by it on the highway.

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Goodamn! Is it just me or does it seem like these are getting destroyed at an alarming rate? Its light weight, but it seems like they crumple like a tin can.

Nah, not really. I mean isn't that the same reason that front end swaps where born for the S-chassis, people where destroying body panels left and right drifting and shit back in the days? Japan is just nutz.

[simmode1]

There's a big difference in bashing up a $1500 240 with cheap replacment parts versus a ~$30k FRS... But I do chuckle whenever I see one bashed up.

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by simmode1

There's a big difference in bashing up a $1500 240 with cheap replacment parts versus a ~$30k FRS... But I do chuckle whenever I see one bashed up.

I'm referring to the late 80s and early 90s when the S-Chassis was "new".

[0100]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Saw my first FRS today. I'm still not a fan of these things, but they sure are nice to look at. Its alot more curvier than the pics show online. Much swoopier than I thought it'd be. I enjoyed blowing by it on the highway.

Gave a white one a huge thumbs up today as I motored passed it with my truck and 24' enclosed trailer with a spec miata half it's price inside that could probably out lap it at any track. Love the looks of the car, but just not for me. Years down the road when they are half the price used ,my mind may change.

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Goodamn! Is it just me or does it seem like these are getting destroyed at an alarming rate? Its light weight, but it seems like they crumple like a tin can..

Saw my first FRS today. I'm still not a fan of these things, but they sure are nice to look at. Its alot more curvier than the pics show online. Much swoopier than I thought it'd be. I enjoyed blowing by it on the highway.

I dunno what it is, maybe they were drifting it? It does seem that the Scion crowd is quite immature to put it nicely, and most don't know their ass from their elbow. I've taken mine for some spirited driving through the twisties and I'm definitely no professional but it is very predictable with how it reacts to your inputs. Maybe these guys are just used to driving econoboxes that understeer all day, or have no clue what they are doing.

[simmode1]

^^^Oh yeah. I'm not implying its the car's fault. Unless being awesome to drive is a fault... I'm just observing that their owners are tearing them up at disproportionate rates, seemingly. The car gives novice drivers so much confidence that they bit off more than they can chew and VOILA! Brand new FRS Missile car!

[shiftdrift]

local shop

[future]

The tq numbers disappoint me. I expected more from the boxer motor, I want to see one with a ej25 swap for the extra tq

[shiftdrift]

i think with time and more tuning results will be better, but still that's great power for that. on 9psi!!

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by shiftdrift

i think with time and more tuning results will be better, but still that's great power for that. on 9psi!!

I agree, this is just the beginning of the horsepower competition with the car and I think it will be great to see what the limits are! I'm just glad they are putting forth the effort to find its limit instead of taking the easy way out with a motor swap.

[future]

I just feel like there is more tq to be had, a big bored or something. I don't see much tq coming from a 2.0

[BarrigaS14]

Originally Posted by future

I just feel like there is more tq to be had, a big bored or something. I don't see much tq coming from a 2.0

It's a two liter engine...

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by future

I don't see much tq coming from a 2.0

I hate to keep repeating myself but... Genesis Coupe, homeboy. Genesis Coupe. Torquey as all fuck.

[future]

You think GC, I think k20 with no tq

[!Zar!]

Needs more LSx.

In other news, I can't wait to see one of these things primered and sitting on some sweet xxr's.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by future

You think GC, I think k20 with no tq

The K20 isn't factory turbo'd. Seriously. The Genny stage 2 tunes are putting out around 250whp and 285ft/lbs to the wheels. Pick the right turbo to upgrade to and I'm seeing numbers that are crushing KA-T numbers.

[!Zar!]

I would hope, the KA is 20 some odd years old.