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TheSquidd · 01-06-2008, 03:00 AM

17x9 +12 ~3 degrees of camber front
18x9.5 +12 ~4 degrees of camber rear

Did a "newspaper pull".
Not my first choice of wheels, but the price is RIGHT.
One month, car's already flushed up.
Okay!

95KA-Turbo · 01-06-2008, 08:59 AM

I was going to run that exact set up on my S14....but I went with something else (which will hopefully be here in a few weeks!).

Can someone explain what a newspaper roll is?

And one picture of my old wheels to stay on topic:

Work VS-Edition:

17x8 -10
17X9 +3

The new set up will be 17X9 -2 all around with 215/45/17s.

**ThatGuy** · 01-06-2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Can someone explain what a newspaper roll is?

Lift car, stack newspapers on top of the tire. Release jack so wheel, tire, and newspaper stack push up into the fender. The added thickness of the newspapers will "push" the fender out of the way to make clearance for the wheel and tire.

I have not used this technique myself, but this is how it was explained to me.
Anyone care to clarify?

JVD · 01-06-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Lift car, stack newspapers on top of the tire. Release jack so wheel, tire, and newspaper stack push up into the fender. The added thickness of the newspapers will "push" the fender out of the way to make clearance for the wheel and tire.

I have not used this technique myself, but this is how it was explained to me.
Anyone care to clarify?

Yup, that's right. Just take your coilovers out first. I used a fender roller first just to flatten that lip completely. I like the newspaper pull because it makes for pretty much perfect fitment. Only a few mm in between the tire and fender.

18 x 10.5 +18 (245/40/18)

articdragon192 · 01-06-2008, 08:57 PM

Can't be done up front from my understanding however because the front spindle will just move around and not hold still unlike the rear.

woods · 01-06-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

Can't be done up front from my understanding however because the front spindle will just move around and not hold still unlike the rear.

Take the spring off?

95KA-Turbo · 01-06-2008, 10:09 PM

Thanks for explaining guys, I'm going to try this out on my new set up if my fenders aren't already where they need to be. Do you just use a 1/4 inch (5mm) thick wad of news paper or what? Also, JVD when you say take your coilover off first....you mean just take the bolds off and let the car go lower then it should? I don't want to mess anything up.

I hope this is an alright place to ask this, it is about fitment, so it seems like an alright place, I apologize if it isn't.

TheSquidd · 01-06-2008, 10:30 PM

Only do it after your fenders are pretty much rolled and you need 1-3mm more clearance. Heat the fenders HOT with a heat gun.

The more paper you use, the more it will pull the fender but it will also give you more of a "gap" between tire and fender. Use as little as possible, but I used about 1/4" stack and got damn near 1mm clearance on the rear tires.

S14s it's a bitch because your guys' rear fender metal is 10x stiffer than s13.

Open the trunk and have three buddies jump up and down to really push it in. Just don't pop the bead on your tire!

yokotas13 · 01-06-2008, 10:42 PM

or
use finess with a fender roller

I have like 3mm clearance with about 6 hours with a fender roller and suspension adjustments total.

yeah it takes longer, but i did a HUGE pull...and i had to work the metal of hte inner fenderwell too in the rear

TheSquidd · 01-06-2008, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

yeah it takes longer, but i did a HUGE pull...and i had to work the metal of hte inner fenderwell too in the rear

Well the newspaper system is not for huge pulls, it's for when you're jussssst touching the tire. And it takes about 15 minutes.

Matej · 01-06-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Thanks for explaining guys, I'm going to try this out on my new set up if my fenders aren't already where they need to be.

This way is more fun.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTK9IjKIYU[/ame]
Coolest S14 by the way.

TheSquidd · 01-06-2008, 11:23 PM

Wow that guy has MASSIVE toe in in the rear.

I did that method on my Cressida. It's hard to make it smooth.

articdragon192 · 01-06-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woods

Take the spring off?

Too much work, lol. I've used the newspaper pull to get thicker tires to fit in the rear of my Z32 and also to give clearance at full lock in the front since it's double wishbone up front.

DRiiFT_JUNKii · 01-07-2008, 01:57 PM

my friends and i did that back in hawaii on his coupe, except it was with a wooden bat. and the squidd is right, its hard to make it smooth and look the same. but it works if you know what your doing.

Touge_Monster · 01-07-2008, 03:36 PM

I used a jack handle. It took a couple hours to get it pulled out enough but it got the job done.

projectdrifter · 01-10-2008, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuaddict

17x10.5 +19
225/45/17

not sure about camber.

i have pmed the poster i ma trying to figure outwhat rims those are with the teal lips.. someone please chime in.

drftwerks · 01-10-2008, 06:46 PM

ima say cobras or something american w/ spacers

smelly240 · 01-10-2008, 06:51 PM

they're pretty concave lookin...

KiDyNomiTe · 01-10-2008, 06:59 PM

***dorkidori_s13*** · 01-10-2008, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquidd

SOoOooOo hot....want to touch the hiney!!!

TheSquidd · 01-10-2008, 07:49 PM

I need to lower it about 3/4" so it touches the rim and then tucks wheel under compression.

Like this

ms!3 · 01-10-2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectdrifter

i have pmed the poster i ma trying to figure outwhat rims those are with the teal lips.. someone please chime in.

There just mustang wheels. 17x10.5 +27 or something like that.

ayuaddict · 01-10-2008, 10:16 PM

yup, just mustang wheels. got them on ebay search "fr500"

^^those sizes are correct.

but with 8mm spacers.

and heres a side pic before aero, overs and spacers. (sorry, all i got)

but maybe you can get a better idea of how they look on a 240.

powersteeringless180sx · 01-10-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

This way is more fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTK9IjKIYU
Coolest S14 by the way.

haha that's how i rolled my fenders. turned out okay for my 1st time.

onevia92 · 01-11-2008, 02:34 PM

these bad boys should get me where i want! ^_^

pr0ject TRUENO · 01-12-2008, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onevia92

these bad boys should get me where i want! ^_^

Please tell me youre joking

Irukandji · 01-12-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onevia92

these bad boys should get me where i want! ^_^
[IMG]gay picture[/IMG]

Putting on 25mm spacers to bring a 15x6 + 50 offset wheel out of the shadows is NOT wheel fitment.

got boost?? · 01-13-2008, 09:45 PM

heres my car.. no coils just springs and struts and wheel spacers. i need coils bad

Jefferson · 01-13-2008, 10:26 PM

Got boost did you buy that S13 sometime last year from a guy named george?

TheSquidd · 01-13-2008, 11:04 PM

Needs to be about 1"-2" lower and maybe 5 mm more poke for me to say it's really "fitment whore". I mean come on, you've got over fenders, use em!

01-06-2008, 03:00 AM	#511
TheSquidd Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where dirt goes to die. Posts: 3,165 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: TheSquidd Feedback Score: 7 reviews	17x9 +12 ~3 degrees of camber front 18x9.5 +12 ~4 degrees of camber rear Did a "newspaper pull". Not my first choice of wheels, but the price is RIGHT. One month, car's already flushed up. Okay! __________________ www.squidd.org www.violent-running.org

01-06-2008, 10:30 PM	#518
TheSquidd Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where dirt goes to die. Posts: 3,165 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: TheSquidd Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Only do it after your fenders are pretty much rolled and you need 1-3mm more clearance. Heat the fenders HOT with a heat gun. The more paper you use, the more it will pull the fender but it will also give you more of a "gap" between tire and fender. Use as little as possible, but I used about 1/4" stack and got damn near 1mm clearance on the rear tires. S14s it's a bitch because your guys' rear fender metal is 10x stiffer than s13. Open the trunk and have three buddies jump up and down to really push it in. Just don't pop the bead on your tire! __________________ www.squidd.org www.violent-running.org

01-06-2008, 10:42 PM	#519
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	or use finess with a fender roller I have like 3mm clearance with about 6 hours with a fender roller and suspension adjustments total. yeah it takes longer, but i did a HUGE pull...and i had to work the metal of hte inner fenderwell too in the rear __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

01-06-2008, 11:23 PM	#522
TheSquidd Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where dirt goes to die. Posts: 3,165 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: TheSquidd Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Wow that guy has MASSIVE toe in in the rear. I did that method on my Cressida. It's hard to make it smooth. __________________ www.squidd.org www.violent-running.org

01-10-2008, 06:46 PM	#527
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ima say cobras or something american w/ spacers __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

01-06-2008, 08:59 AM	#512
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I was going to run that exact set up on my S14....but I went with something else (which will hopefully be here in a few weeks!). Can someone explain what a newspaper roll is? And one picture of my old wheels to stay on topic: Work VS-Edition: 17x8 -10 17X9 +3 The new set up will be 17X9 -2 all around with 215/45/17s.

01-06-2008, 08:57 PM	#515
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 38 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Can't be done up front from my understanding however because the front spindle will just move around and not hold still unlike the rear.

01-06-2008, 10:09 PM	#517
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Thanks for explaining guys, I'm going to try this out on my new set up if my fenders aren't already where they need to be. Do you just use a 1/4 inch (5mm) thick wad of news paper or what? Also, JVD when you say take your coilover off first....you mean just take the bolds off and let the car go lower then it should? I don't want to mess anything up. I hope this is an alright place to ask this, it is about fitment, so it seems like an alright place, I apologize if it isn't.

01-07-2008, 01:57 PM	#524
DRiiFT_JUNKii Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: hawaii Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my friends and i did that back in hawaii on his coupe, except it was with a wooden bat. and the squidd is right, its hard to make it smooth and look the same. but it works if you know what your doing.

01-10-2008, 06:51 PM	#528
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 46 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	they're pretty concave lookin... __________________ HREs on a S13 - check, 6262 - check, Girlfriend.... - nope

01-10-2008, 06:59 PM	#529
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	__________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

01-10-2008, 07:49 PM	#531
TheSquidd Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where dirt goes to die. Posts: 3,165 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: TheSquidd Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I need to lower it about 3/4" so it touches the rim and then tucks wheel under compression. Like this __________________ www.squidd.org www.violent-running.org

01-10-2008, 10:16 PM	#533
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 35 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	yup, just mustang wheels. got them on ebay search "fr500" ^^those sizes are correct. but with 8mm spacers. and heres a side pic before aero, overs and spacers. (sorry, all i got) but maybe you can get a better idea of how they look on a 240.

01-11-2008, 02:34 PM	#535
onevia92 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 34 Posts: 56 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	these bad boys should get me where i want! ^_^ __________________ <(^(00)^)> Last edited by onevia92; 01-11-2008 at 02:40 PM.. Reason: oops

01-13-2008, 09:45 PM	#538
got boost?? Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: palm harbor. FL Posts: 121 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heres my car.. no coils just springs and struts and wheel spacers. i need coils bad

01-13-2008, 10:26 PM	#539
Jefferson Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Got boost did you buy that S13 sometime last year from a guy named george?

01-13-2008, 11:04 PM	#540
TheSquidd Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where dirt goes to die. Posts: 3,165 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: TheSquidd Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Needs to be about 1"-2" lower and maybe 5 mm more poke for me to say it's really "fitment whore". I mean come on, you've got over fenders, use em! __________________ www.squidd.org www.violent-running.org