Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[93nismo]

im lookin at some 17x9.75 +25 xxr 527s. i was talkin to someone that had them but he was extremly vauge with everything. that being said, im wondering how much fender work is going to have to be done to get everything to fit. and i gunna lose turning radius and shit in the front with that big of a wheel? he said they rubbed his coils so i know ill need spacers. no idea on what size. when i get them or whatever i get id like to lower the car a bit more. im ok with a stretched tire. i really would rather stay away from pulling my fenders that much.

current ride height: id like to go 1/2 inch to an inch lower maybe.

[Koukisteve29]

Looking into buying some XXR 962 soon 17x9 with +35

Will they clear kyb struts in the front with 5mm spacers and without pulling fenders?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by 93nismo

im lookin at some 17x9.75 +25 xxr 527s. i was talkin to someone that had them but he was extremly vauge with everything. that being said, im wondering how much fender work is going to have to be done to get everything to fit. and i gunna lose turning radius and shit in the front with that big of a wheel? he said they rubbed his coils so i know ill need spacers. no idea on what size. when i get them or whatever i get id like to lower the car a bit more. im ok with a stretched tire. i really would rather stay away from pulling my fenders that much.

How much spacers will all depend on what coilovers you're running. Some coilovers are thicker and takes up more room. You can get away with 5mm or it may be as much as 10mm to clear whatever coilovers you have. Stretch some tires on it, run some camber and you wont have to pull the fenders, just roll them and flatten the inner wheel well lips.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by Koukisteve29

Looking into buying some XXR 962 soon 17x9 with +35

Will they clear kyb struts in the front with 5mm spacers and without pulling fenders?

5mm spacers should be good...rolling the fenders wouldnt be a bad idea.

[Koukisteve29]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

5mm spacers should be good...rolling the fenders wouldnt be a bad idea.

Thank you!

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Stock fenders, stock bodied S13 hatch. I have PBM RUCA, toe, traction, Function and Form Type II coilovers. Looking to put on:

Work VS-KF's
18x9.5 +14
18x11 +0

If my math serves me and a friend who helped correctly, I can get away with some camber and a fender pull or 30mm overs in the back. Now, I'm wondering if I want to stay stock bodied and want to go to the pull route, how much of a pull will I need with a combination of how much camber? I have plenty of bolt on/slip on spacers to my disposal from other builds so I'm not concerned if I need to go that route. I do in fact run Z32 brakes all the way around as well. Let me know what the best route to go would be. Any and all input is appreciated.

Teaser:

Depending on what style face the fronts are will dictate how much spacers you need. I had to run 13mm spacers up front to clear R33 brakes on o-disk VS-KFs. Backs, o-disks cleared R32/Z32 rear brakes by literally a hair.

Just to give you an idea, 18x9.5 +14 with 13mm spacers 18x10.5 +1 rears on stock pulled fenders

[93nismo]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

How much spacers will all depend on what coilovers you're running. Some coilovers are thicker and takes up more room. You can get away with 5mm or it may be as much as 10mm to clear whatever coilovers you have. Stretch some tires on it, run some camber and you wont have to pull the fenders, just roll them and flatten the inner wheel well lips.

well thats pretty much what i wanted to hear lol ive got stances on it. any guess on tire size and camber id need to run so i could keep the body stock and not pulled? thanks for the reply!

[da_crew10]

Originally Posted by 93nismo

well thats pretty much what i wanted to hear lol ive got stances on it. any guess on tire size and camber id need to run so i could keep the body stock and not pulled? thanks for the reply!

I'd use a 215/40 for the fronts and a 235/40. Not too exaggerative of a stretch but will give your tires the stretch they need to fit on stock
Body. Even though I'd go with over fenders if I were you bc you'll need a huge pull.

Good luck bro

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by 93nismo

well thats pretty much what i wanted to hear lol ive got stances on it. any guess on tire size and camber id need to run so i could keep the body stock and not pulled? thanks for the reply!

All depends on what you're trying to do. You want grip, ofcourse the wider the better. Trade off is that you go wide tires, then you want less camber. Less camber then you'd need more pull. How much pull will then be dependant on how low you are.

Personally, I dont like running staggered sizing tires on non-staggered width wheels. So its all up to you. Personally, I'd go 245/40-17 all around. Gives you the flexibility to rotate tires around and should fit under the stock fenders with just a roll and maybe a some camber.

Heres a quick way to remember wheel sizings for S-chassis: 9J +10 fronts and 10J +10 rears. Perfect sizing for S-14s, need some camber and slight pull on S13s but looks awesome.

[93nismo]

Originally Posted by da_crew10

I'd use a 215/40 for the fronts and a 235/40. Not too exaggerative of a stretch but will give your tires the stretch they need to fit on stock
Body. Even though I'd go with over fenders if I were you bc you'll need a huge pull.

Good luck bro

i dont want to pull my 1/4s more then a few mm or get overfenders. i dont like the way that looks and if i want differant wheels i dont want to deal with filling that gap or anything like that. i just want the body stock.

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

All depends on what you're trying to do. You want grip, ofcourse the wider the better. Trade off is that you go wide tires, then you want less camber. Less camber then you'd need more pull. How much pull will then be dependant on how low you are.

Personally, I dont like running staggered sizing tires on non-staggered width wheels. So its all up to you. Personally, I'd go 245/40-17 all around. Gives you the flexibility to rotate tires around and should fit under the stock fenders with just a roll and maybe a some camber.

Heres a quick way to remember wheel sizings for S-chassis: 9J +10 fronts and 10J +10 rears. Perfect sizing for S-14s, need some camber and slight pull on S13s but looks awesome.

like i said originaly, id like to go a half inch to an inch lower. but i dont want that bad enough to want to pull my fenders. i just cruise it in the summer so im not obnoxiously worried about performance or any of that. i do however want the sizes of both the wheels and tires to be the same so i can rotate everything. if a pull and a rediculas amount of camber will be needed i can always go a size down on the wheels and get the 17x8.25 and work with those.

thanks for all the help so far guys i really appreciate it

[gallo]

i have 17x9.75 isis coils used 7mm spacer up front didnt even have to roll the fenders just run some camber

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by 93nismo

i dont want to pull my 1/4s more then a few mm or get overfenders. i dont like the way that looks and if i want differant wheels i dont want to deal with filling that gap or anything like that. i just want the body stock.



like i said originaly, id like to go a half inch to an inch lower. but i dont want that bad enough to want to pull my fenders. i just cruise it in the summer so im not obnoxiously worried about performance or any of that. i do however want the sizes of both the wheels and tires to be the same so i can rotate everything. if a pull and a rediculas amount of camber will be needed i can always go a size down on the wheels and get the 17x8.25 and work with those.

thanks for all the help so far guys i really appreciate it

Stick with the 9.75j and run some 225/45-17 tires all around if you're worried about pulling the fenders. Just rolling the fenders up front, you could effectively pull the fenders by just doing that.

[gallo]

^ true statement i will be going w/ 225/45/17 as soon as i kill off these tires i have

[h2v7]

Originally Posted by gallo

i have 17x9.75 isis coils used 7mm spacer up front didnt even have to roll the fenders just run some camber

can you take some pics please side shots front and rear

thanks

[Jonathong]

I have 17x9.5 with a +12 offset, will I be fine with a 5mm spacer in the front, I don't wanna pull the fenders. So just camber it and I should be fine right? Also I have eibach camber bolts and camber plates on my coils.

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[fliprayzin240sx]

^^^You shouldnt need spacers...

[SupaDoopa]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Depending on what style face the fronts are will dictate how much spacers you need. I had to run 13mm spacers up front to clear R33 brakes on o-disk VS-KFs. Backs, o-disks cleared R32/Z32 rear brakes by literally a hair.

Just to give you an idea, 18x9.5 +14 with 13mm spacers 18x10.5 +1 rears on stock pulled fenders

Did your pull require body work or just non-stop pulling? Not sure what style the fronts are but putting spacers on is no biggy. Are you running overs on the front? How bad do you rub with 'em?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Did your pull require body work or just non-stop pulling? Not sure what style the fronts are but putting spacers on is no biggy. Are you running overs on the front? How bad do you rub with 'em?

Just pulled, not so bad. All stock fenders including the fronts. Rubbing wasnt bad, atleast just for daily. Rear would touch when coming into inclines and stuff. Could have remedied it with more camber but I didnt mess with it since I didnt want to have to worry about alignment. Was running 225/40 up front and 235/40 in the rear.

PM you wanna see more shots, I got a couple more with the setup.

[SupaDoopa]

You're also running 10.5's, these are 11's +0. Might be more than just "some work." Haha.

[93nismo]

Originally Posted by gallo

i have 17x9.75 isis coils used 7mm spacer up front didnt even have to roll the fenders just run some camber

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Stick with the 9.75j and run some 225/45-17 tires all around if you're worried about pulling the fenders. Just rolling the fenders up front, you could effectively pull the fenders by just doing that.

awesome thanks guys. gallo did you have any problems with clearance turning? thanks again for answering everything, ive never gotten wheels for any of my cars before :P

[xBtony]

Hopefuly this is the appropriate thread for this question.

How agressive can I go up front with out hitting the inner wheel wells and everything else while turning or anything (S13) I was lookin at x10 +15 but I think I still might need spacers and I'd prefer not to run spacers if I can get away with it.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by xBtony

Hopefuly this is the appropriate thread for this question.

How agressive can I go up front with out hitting the inner wheel wells and everything else while turning or anything (S13) I was lookin at x10 +15 but I think I still might need spacers and I'd prefer not to run spacers if I can get away with it.

Depends on the coilover you're running, 10j +15 may or may not touch the suspension. If it fits, you'll need to bang the living crap out of the inner wheel well. Shit will be touching something at full lock. If you're slammed, you will touch the rubber grommet, maybe even the wiring coming out of firewall side. Doesnt matter how well your relocate that, you'd need to figure out a way to protect it if you're gonna drift it.

[kris]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Stock fenders, stock bodied S13 hatch. I have PBM RUCA, toe, traction, Function and Form Type II coilovers. Looking to put on:

Work VS-KF's
18x9.5 +14
18x11 +0

If my math serves me and a friend who helped correctly, I can get away with some camber and a fender pull or 30mm overs in the back. Now, I'm wondering if I want to stay stock bodied and want to go to the pull route, how much of a pull will I need with a combination of how much camber? I have plenty of bolt on/slip on spacers to my disposal from other builds so I'm not concerned if I need to go that route. I do in fact run Z32 brakes all the way around as well. Let me know what the best route to go would be. Any and all input is appreciated.

Teaser:

horrible shitty picture i know






18x9.5 +2 front R disk
18x10.5 +1 rear 0 disk

camber was -3 front and -3 rear

Stock metal at the time and pulled quite a bit all around rubbed pretty bad in the rear and it wasnt that low. Run 30mm fenders in rear and 20mm in front now tuck tire in rear. camber in front is at -5 and lots of clearance. Rear camber is at -2.75 and cant come out anymore as it will rub on the rear fender.

If i did it over again 50mm in the rear and -1.5 camber then add a 10mm spacer or something

[SupaDoopa]

I may have to roll with 20/50's. What hood is that?

[WheelWhore]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Depends on the coilover you're running, 10j +15 may or may not touch the suspension. If it fits, you'll need to bang the living crap out of the inner wheel well. Shit will be touching something at full lock. If you're slammed, you will touch the rubber grommet, maybe even the wiring coming out of firewall side. Doesnt matter how well your relocate that, you'd need to figure out a way to protect it if you're gonna drift it.

Not only that, but on 17x10 +15, I was having issues clearing Zeal Coilover's.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by WheelWhore

Not only that, but on 17x10 +15, I was having issues clearing Zeal Coilover's.

Thats because Zeal coilovers sucks...specially their entry level ones that cost stupid expensive with one way height adjustability.

[xBtony]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Depends on the coilover you're running, 10j +15 may or may not touch the suspension. If it fits, you'll need to bang the living crap out of the inner wheel well. Shit will be touching something at full lock. If you're slammed, you will touch the rubber grommet, maybe even the wiring coming out of firewall side. Doesnt matter how well your relocate that, you'd need to figure out a way to protect it if you're gonna drift it.

Thanks thats what I figured. Im on Apexi's, hopefuly they have decent clearence. And I do plan on drifting it and smashing the fuck outta anything that rubs lol. Guess worst case is spacers, or x10 0 if i can find something I want in those specs.

How much will camber effect clearence? Id like to get somewhere in the -5 or 6 range up front, by either slotting the coils or custom LCA's but Im not too sure how drastically I'll loose clearence.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Camber wont really do jack shit with the kind of issue's youd have clearance wise. S13 fronts just dont like that wide of wheels. You add camber to clear fenders, fender clearance would be the least of your worries with 10j up front. Full lock, you'll rub the crap out of the inside wheel well. You can beat the crap out of the front tubs but the back/firewall side is where it gets iffy, specially when you're super low. If the front tires touch the tubs/wall hard enough, might be enough to slow down the front wheels and cause you to spin out while drifting.

[kris]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

I may have to roll with 20/50's. What hood is that?

This one is a diamyo garage which is basically a Dmax rip off iirc. They were all the craze a few years ago then the dude making them started doin shady shit (other than copying products).

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Camber wont really do jack shit with the kind of issue's youd have clearance wise. S13 fronts just dont like that wide of wheels. You add camber to clear fenders, fender clearance would be the least of your worries with 10j up front. Full lock, you'll rub the crap out of the inside wheel well. You can beat the crap out of the front tubs but the back/firewall side is where it gets iffy, specially when you're super low. If the front tires touch the tubs/wall hard enough, might be enough to slow down the front wheels and cause you to spin out while drifting.

solution =tubs

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by kris

solution =tubs

Yes and No...tubs will only fix the front side of the wheel well but your tires will still touch the inside on the firewall side. Beating the crap out of that side and pulling the caster forward but thats another can of worms.