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speedgod^s13 · 05-02-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

i use an Uras
shits awesome
slightly shorter
solid!
and sits stock heights
its the best

my friend drove my car once
and ordered it.

How much do those run for?

Dousan_PG · 05-02-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

How much do those run for?

i dont reemmber
ive had mine for like 1.5 years at least

check the uras website

apexhumper · 05-02-2007, 01:11 PM

So since the B&M is supposedly a direct copy of the C's, does the C's rattle the same as the B&M? Anyone have experience?

Monkey Boy · 05-02-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by apexhumper

So since the B&M is supposedly a direct copy of the C's, does the C's rattle the same as the B&M? Anyone have experience?

wow you should read the posts above. they are not even close, and very obviously not the same. my friend was actually testing the b&m copy and had some issues with it but the newer version looks exactly like my b&m.
i guess nobody mentioned that megan makes the b&m copy, well it looks like it in the pictures.
i did research before buying one cuz i don't like the stock throw and feel, b&m is pricey but if you can get it at a good price it is well worth it. it all boils down to, that if you can afford it get the b&m, get it. if not then you got some decisions to make.

*ManoNegra* · 05-02-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by apexhumper

So since the B&M is supposedly a direct copy of the C's, does the C's rattle the same as the B&M? Anyone have experience?

No rattle whatsoever from the shifter.

OperationSr20 · 05-02-2007, 11:17 PM

Ask and you shall receive:

C's Version 1 Short Shifter w/ Short Tomei Duraon Shift Knob. I purchased this a long while ago, when I still had my first 240sx. It was some time before I got the chance to install it, and unfortunatly didn't really get to use it that much before I decided to part the 240 out, but was sure to keep the shifter

. I have my new 240 now and am awaiting my RedlineGoods.com Shift Boot, which is 1.2" shorter to sit better with the shorter shifter, untill I install it again. Soon!

I have not driven a car with a B&M Short Shifter so I can not do a direct comparison, but from what I have heard the B&M Short Shifter has some bad buzzing at High RPM's (~5000+). My C's has absolutely no buzzing, from Idle to Redline, nothing. The all around quality is great, I enjoy it very much. The 240's have a 20% shorter throw, as compared to stock, I believe it was. A very nice, and noticeable, difference none the less. I can't wait to get it installed again.

I found C's official site a while back, when the discussion came up on another forum, when they were believed to be discontinued. I swore I listed the link in my post, but I guess I was mistaken. Well regardless, the site I found had just about ALL their shifters listed at $400.00, from RPS13 to Supra to Skyline. I tried doing some more searching just now, but was not able to find anyone that is selling them, so I am assuming they're officially discontinued. nengun.com appeared to have them for S14/S15 Sr20DeT (Can also work for Ka/Rb, right?), and they were runnin' at $175.00-$180.00, but don't appear to have any left in stock.

All 'n all, If you can find yourself a C's Short Shifter, buy it and don't think twice about it. B&M appears to be a great shifter, and I had planned on getting one myself, but after looking into the C's, I felt it would be a slightly better shifter. As I said, I haven't used B&M, so I can't do a direct comparison. Also, based on research, one of the clinchers from people purchasing C's over B&M, is mainly that C's doesn't have the high RPM buzzing that most have. Ok, that is alot, I am done. Hope it helped.

Ok, I lied. The Tomei Duracon Shift Knob is very nice knob. Although it is not a weighted shift knob, the plus behind it is that it does not get hot, not even a 1* rise in temperature while sitting in direct sunlight. Felt, since it was specified, I would throw that in there.

speedgod^s13 · 05-03-2007, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OperationSr20

Ask and you shall receive:

C's Version 1 Short Shifter w/ Short Tomei Duraon Shift Knob. I purchased this a long while ago, when I still had my first 240sx. It was some time before I got the chance to install it, and unfortunatly didn't really get to use it that much before I decided to part the 240 out, but was sure to keep the shifter

. I have my new 240 now and am awaiting my RedlineGoods.com Shift Boot, which is 1.2" shorter to sit better with the shorter shifter, untill I install it again. Soon!

I have not driven a car with a B&M Short Shifter so I can not do a direct comparison, but from what I have heard the B&M Short Shifter has some bad buzzing at High RPM's (~5000+). My C's has absolutely no buzzing, from Idle to Redline, nothing. The all around quality is great, I enjoy it very much. The 240's have a 20% shorter throw, as compared to stock, I believe it was. A very nice, and noticeable, difference none the less. I can't wait to get it installed again.

I found C's official site a while back, when the discussion came up on another forum, when they were believed to be discontinued. I swore I listed the link in my post, but I guess I was mistaken. Well regardless, the site I found had just about ALL their shifters listed at $400.00, from RPS13 to Supra to Skyline. I tried doing some more searching just now, but was not able to find anyone that is selling them, so I am assuming they're officially discontinued. nengun.com appeared to have them for S14/S15 Sr20DeT (Can also work for Ka/Rb, right?), and they were runnin' at $175.00-$180.00, but don't appear to have any left in stock.

All 'n all, If you can find yourself a C's Short Shifter, buy it and don't think twice about it. B&M appears to be a great shifter, and I had planned on getting one myself, but after looking into the C's, I felt it would be a slightly better shifter. As I said, I haven't used B&M, so I can't do a direct comparison. Also, based on research, one of the clinchers from people purchasing C's over B&M, is mainly that C's doesn't have the high RPM buzzing that most have. Ok, that is alot, I am done. Hope it helped.

Ok, I lied. The Tomei Duracon Shift Knob is very nice knob. Although it is not a weighted shift knob, the plus behind it is that it does not get hot, not even a 1* rise in temperature while sitting in direct sunlight. Felt, since it was specified, I would throw that in there.

I didn't know there was a version 1/version 2 c's. Your shiftknob, doesn't lookg any shorter, but your setup is noticeably shorter height than mines. What gives?

SochBAT · 05-03-2007, 01:26 AM

B&M had 2 versions, V1, and V2, respectively.

V1 had the vibro problem, V2 addressed it, and is nice and neat.

I had the v2 with no qualms about rattling or anything.

To my understanding, B&M > C's in terms of quality parts, and assembly. Maybe its just me, but the C's my buddies had in their cars felt like monkey shit.

apexhumper · 05-03-2007, 01:57 AM

So does the C's work with the Ka too? I saw the page on nengun.com and it said it was for SR

SochBAT · 05-03-2007, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by apexhumper

So does the C's work with the Ka too? I saw the page on nengun.com and it said it was for SR

KA/SR = same same.

speedgod^s13 · 05-03-2007, 02:53 PM

This is how high, my shiftknob sits.

Raysurc · 05-03-2007, 03:01 PM

i have a friend who currently has a b&m short shifter and he loooooves it. i asked him if it rattles and he said it doesnt. i played with it myself and its pretty damn short and notchy(some people like that).

what im wondering is if it rattles because people dont put on the top two screws that hold the shifter in place. from what i read, people just leave those two unscrewed because they're lazy to move the transmission axle down. im about to get a b&m shifter. Unless anyone is selling a C's?

speedgod^s13 · 05-03-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raysurc

i have a friend who currently has a b&m short shifter and he loooooves it. i asked him if it rattles and he said it doesnt. i played with it myself and its pretty damn short and notchy(some people like that).

what im wondering is if it rattles because people dont put on the top two screws that hold the shifter in place. from what i read, people just leave those two unscrewed because they're lazy to move the transmission axle down. im about to get a b&m shifter. Unless anyone is selling a C's?

Sorry dude, but I couldn't resist.

Raysurc · 05-03-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

Sorry dude, but I couldn't resist.

lol man, i shoulda caught that hahaha.

speedgod^s13 · 05-03-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raysurc

lol man, i shoulda caught that hahaha.

It's all good. Had me

when I read it the first time. Had to read it again, just to make sure.

OperationSr20 · 05-04-2007, 12:16 AM

Speedgod, you're right, mine is alot shorter then yours... Odd. Well, I will definately visit back as soon as I get it installed. The thread should still have some life in it when I do, lol. As far as the Tomei Duracon Shift knob is concerned, there are 2 sizes, a 70mm (Short) & a 90mm (Long) The ones that we have are the Short 70mm Version.

I purchased my C's Short Shifter w/ Short Tomei Duracon Knob from Ritz 14, here on the forums. Speedgod, you actually posted in that For Sale thread, back in June of 06:

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Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

Strange, I have a c's short shifter with the same shift knob, but mines sits hella high.

Also, from the same thread, the seller used both B&M and C's and he quotes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritz S14

IMO, I've used a B&M, and C's is much more comfortable. This shifter is in GREAT condition, and it's very precise. Whereas a B&M is notchy, the C's is very smooth. Most people go with B&M because they are readily available. The original C's is pretty hard to come by in good shape. You also don't get that rattle that B&M has at higher RPM. C's pure quality. If you decide to go the B&M route, be my guest.

Justing puting more rep out there for the C's...

speedgod^s13 · 05-04-2007, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OperationSr20

Speedgod, you're right, mine is alot shorter then yours... Odd. Well, I will definately visit back as soon as I get it installed. The thread should still have some life in it when I do, lol. As far as the Tomei Duracon Shift knob is concerned, there are 2 sizes, a 70mm (Short) & a 90mm (Long) The ones that we have are the Short 70mm Version.

I purchased my C's Short Shifter w/ Short Tomei Duracon Knob from Ritz 14, here on the forums. Speedgod, you actually posted in that For Sale thread, back in June of 06:

Also, from the same thread, the seller used both B&M and C's and he quotes:

Justing puting more rep out there for the C's...

I looked at your picture closely, and your actual shifter is WAY shorter than mines. Damn, that makes me mad. Gotta go find a shorter one now, but they are so hard to locate.

speedgod^s13 · 05-04-2007, 03:09 AM

I was checking out rare trick, and they have an attain solid shifter. I'm assuming the throw is the same, just crispier shift changes. Not extremely expensive either, $139.00. Anyone out there, using one of these? They are pretty nice. http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?c...roductsID=7083

OperationSr20 · 05-04-2007, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

I looked at your picture closely, and your actual shifter is WAY shorter than mines. Damn, that makes me mad. Gotta go find a shorter one now, but they are so hard to locate.

6" Shaft
11" Total Length

apexhumper · 05-04-2007, 03:40 PM

SpeedGod how long is yours?.......and here come the giggles

No but seriously, is your shifter really shorter or is it just the shift knob that is a different size?

Full-Lock · 05-04-2007, 09:36 AM

i meant to talk to Drew@Raretrick about one of those Attain solid shifters. they look pretty nice.

Raretrick also has the URAS one listed on their site that Dousan spoke of

OperationSr20 · 05-05-2007, 12:47 AM

Speedgod, measure your shaft so we can compare sizes... please... no pictures...

speedgod^s13 · 05-05-2007, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OperationSr20

Speedgod, measure your shaft so we can compare sizes... please... no pictures...

I don't even know what to say.

05-02-2007, 01:11 PM	#3
apexhumper Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pasadena Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So since the B&M is supposedly a direct copy of the C's, does the C's rattle the same as the B&M? Anyone have experience? __________________ Dont sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.

05-02-2007, 11:17 PM	#6
OperationSr20 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Des Plaines, Illinois Age: 36 Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Ask and you shall receive: C's Version 1 Short Shifter w/ Short Tomei Duraon Shift Knob. I purchased this a long while ago, when I still had my first 240sx. It was some time before I got the chance to install it, and unfortunatly didn't really get to use it that much before I decided to part the 240 out, but was sure to keep the shifter . I have my new 240 now and am awaiting my RedlineGoods.com Shift Boot, which is 1.2" shorter to sit better with the shorter shifter, untill I install it again. Soon! I have not driven a car with a B&M Short Shifter so I can not do a direct comparison, but from what I have heard the B&M Short Shifter has some bad buzzing at High RPM's (~5000+). My C's has absolutely no buzzing, from Idle to Redline, nothing. The all around quality is great, I enjoy it very much. The 240's have a 20% shorter throw, as compared to stock, I believe it was. A very nice, and noticeable, difference none the less. I can't wait to get it installed again. I found C's official site a while back, when the discussion came up on another forum, when they were believed to be discontinued. I swore I listed the link in my post, but I guess I was mistaken. Well regardless, the site I found had just about ALL their shifters listed at $400.00, from RPS13 to Supra to Skyline. I tried doing some more searching just now, but was not able to find anyone that is selling them, so I am assuming they're officially discontinued. nengun.com appeared to have them for S14/S15 Sr20DeT (Can also work for Ka/Rb, right?), and they were runnin' at $175.00-$180.00, but don't appear to have any left in stock. All 'n all, If you can find yourself a C's Short Shifter, buy it and don't think twice about it. B&M appears to be a great shifter, and I had planned on getting one myself, but after looking into the C's, I felt it would be a slightly better shifter. As I said, I haven't used B&M, so I can't do a direct comparison. Also, based on research, one of the clinchers from people purchasing C's over B&M, is mainly that C's doesn't have the high RPM buzzing that most have. Ok, that is alot, I am done. Hope it helped. Ok, I lied. The Tomei Duracon Shift Knob is very nice knob. Although it is not a weighted shift knob, the plus behind it is that it does not get hot, not even a 1* rise in temperature while sitting in direct sunlight. Felt, since it was specified, I would throw that in there. __________________ SHIFT_Patience 1989 Ka24De Hatchback: 12/20/2005 - 11/03/2006 1991 Ka24De Hatchback: 12/20/2006 - Current Day

05-03-2007, 01:57 AM	#9
apexhumper Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pasadena Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So does the C's work with the Ka too? I saw the page on nengun.com and it said it was for SR __________________ Dont sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.

05-03-2007, 03:01 PM	#12
Raysurc Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Diego Mira Mesa Age: 38 Posts: 72 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have a friend who currently has a b&m short shifter and he loooooves it. i asked him if it rattles and he said it doesnt. i played with it myself and its pretty damn short and notchy(some people like that). what im wondering is if it rattles because people dont put on the top two screws that hold the shifter in place. from what i read, people just leave those two unscrewed because they're lazy to move the transmission axle down. im about to get a b&m shifter. Unless anyone is selling a C's? __________________ Welcome to San Diego

05-04-2007, 03:40 PM	#20
apexhumper Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pasadena Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SpeedGod how long is yours?.......and here come the giggles No but seriously, is your shifter really shorter or is it just the shift knob that is a different size? __________________ Dont sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.

05-03-2007, 01:26 AM	#8
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	B&M had 2 versions, V1, and V2, respectively. V1 had the vibro problem, V2 addressed it, and is nice and neat. I had the v2 with no qualms about rattling or anything. To my understanding, B&M > C's in terms of quality parts, and assembly. Maybe its just me, but the C's my buddies had in their cars felt like monkey shit.

05-03-2007, 02:53 PM	#11
speedgod^s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Age: 45 Posts: 3,194 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	This is how high, my shiftknob sits.

05-04-2007, 03:09 AM	#18
speedgod^s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Age: 45 Posts: 3,194 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I was checking out rare trick, and they have an attain solid shifter. I'm assuming the throw is the same, just crispier shift changes. Not extremely expensive either, $139.00. Anyone out there, using one of these? They are pretty nice. http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?c...roductsID=7083

05-04-2007, 09:36 AM	#21
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i meant to talk to Drew@Raretrick about one of those Attain solid shifters. they look pretty nice. Raretrick also has the URAS one listed on their site that Dousan spoke of __________________

05-05-2007, 12:47 AM	#22
OperationSr20 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Des Plaines, Illinois Age: 36 Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Speedgod, measure your shaft so we can compare sizes... please... no pictures... __________________ SHIFT_Patience 1989 Ka24De Hatchback: 12/20/2005 - 11/03/2006 1991 Ka24De Hatchback: 12/20/2006 - Current Day