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Old 01-27-2008, 03:16 AM   #31
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American English pejorative ethnic slur for a person of Italian descent. It is derived from the Neapolitan word "guappo", meaning dude or thug. The word defines those who belong to the Guapperia o “Camorra”, a criminal organization similar to the Sicilian Mafia located mostly in the province of Campania (an Italian Province) and its capital Naples, Italy. The term is still commonly used especially in Central-South Italy (Meridione) to describe those that either belong to the organization or those that are arrogant to the point of inducing a fight. It was brought to the USA by early Italian immigrants from the province of Campania who named those suspected to belonging to the Guapperia “Guappi”, in a similar fashion the Sicilians used the term “Mafiosi”. Widely used in Chicago where most immigrants from Campania settled, one of its native sons Al Capone was a typical Guappo, it was confused by the non Italian population to indicate people of Italian origins, similarly the word “Paesano”.
Contrary to popular belief, it is most likely not an acronym for "With Out Papers" or "Without Passport", or "Working On Pavement."


The WOP thing isn't part of the shirt as mentioned in the first post.
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what does WOP mean. its late i didn't read the thread.
If he means it in the Italian since, it means With Out Papers. Was basically a stigma attached to Italian immigrants. As wiki stated above, it isnt the intended meaning, but, it was a way to stereotype.
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Yeah usually car shirts don't have to many customers because they all seem to have cars on them. You should take some inspiration maybe from skateboarding clothes if your looking into real sales. Pouring all your money into clothings that are made for zilvia geeks who don't really care what they wear regardless or have no sense in clothing test what so ever isn't usually the best idea. Also just to put it out there try making a clothing company that is directed to certain car enthusiasts, in your case it seems like your going after the drifting rwd crowd isn't usually the best idea because it will limit your customer potential base. Usually if your going to invest money into a business you should take some time to rethink your strategy and plan out what is going to be a profit to you and not what is cool in your own mind. Not saying your idea is bad, just might wanna rethink about investing so much and going broke.
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are you having the shirts printed, or are you using photo emulsion, and silkscreen, out of curiosity.
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Sorry OP but where do i get the hella flush shirt?
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The WOP thing isn't part of the shirt as mentioned in the first post.
Ah Wikipedia once again blending truth with fiction. WOP is a deregatory term for a person who is Italian or of Italian descent. Paesano on the other hand is a friendly and non deregatory term. Trust Wikipedia to fuck things up. Back to topic the Hella flush shirt idea looks cool.
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take the s13 out

alot of good shirts dont need to have cars on them... just bold statements and a cool pattern/design

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Hehehehe a Australian popping a Norcal word. Now thats funny. I guess the bay area has finally influenced the slang and the fashion world.
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Other than the stretched tires, I love it. Also, just finish off the greenhouse of the car, and just refine some of the details a little bit. For instance the corner portion of the headlights looks slightly off, and that grayed-out area in the hole in the bumper looks hard to print.

Overall though, I'd rock it. Please post it up when you finish the design and start printing. I'll buy one.

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Old 01-27-2008, 11:39 AM   #41
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Alright, so I am back home from last night and the verdict is: I am going to take the advice on adding some detail to the rear wheel as well as check out whats going on with the corner light. Thinning some of the detail lines might take away from what I was originally going for but I will try it and see how it looks. You guys, thank you for all the pointers and opinions (even the bad ones, EVERYBODY will never agree on anything lol) and I hope you guys will rock the shit out of these in about a week. also I am gonna throw another design up for critique when i put these shirts up for sale.

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/\ I think you should also do ans S14 version in the same style... but a kouki of course! lol. The shirt is pretty freaking sweet btw. I like.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:54 PM   #44
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OK, so far I like how its going (the wheels dont look sharpied anymore) but the rear wheel is too small to but much design in with the bold look im going for, but I know some of you guys love to rock the black tees and I am thinking about making both, let me know what you think.

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how much for a black shirt? if reasonable, you have my order.
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I'd buy one with just the text as I am the last person to preach about safe sex so it'd be a fun joke to wear that shirt.
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the arrow on the tire is backwards!
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haha, those will also be made- and depending on how cheap i get the stickers made ill be throwing 1 in free with each shirt (HOPEFULLY) if not they wont be more than a couple bucks.

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YES. You seem to have the right idea. I'm sick of seeing jackass retards trying to START clothing companies by charging 25 bucks a shirt. They almost alsays fail. Start reasonable, THEN jack prices up.
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or start reasonable, and stay reasonable

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I think the s13 shirt is sweet.
and its a good price.
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lol can I get one that says promoting hard driving and harder sex?? lol

safe driving and hard sex would be funny too...but good shirts
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that shit's official. I like the black and purple. It would also look good with black/red or black/yellow. If they're $15 shipped i'll take one
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