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Old 02-01-2008, 02:59 PM   #1
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ok well i might get fiberglass, i jsut am worried that it will break too soon (my car is going to be a low dd) even when i drive to avoid obstacles i still manage to scrape
the uras kit looks good now :O
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ok well i might get fiberglass, i jsut am worried that it will break too soon (my car is going to be a low dd) even when i drive to avoid obstacles i still manage to scrape
the uras kit looks good now :O
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EEEEEEWWWWWWWWW! That shit is weird looking. The front bumper does not match well with the sideskirts, and on top of that the bumper itself is UGLY, also the rear bumper looks to hang low enough to qualify as a parachute.
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All the companies are starting to make more rounded off "elegant" styled aero which I'm not really into, I'm all about the crazy flared out low street sweeper looks.
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I think the kit comes out really far at the bottom and could only be pulled off with big wide wheels and at least 4* of camber... They need to at least be flush with the bottom of the kit, and that kit sits out far. I also don't like the taller opening in the middle. That screams aggressive, and the urban line is supposed to be more subdued.




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Old 02-01-2008, 06:36 PM   #7
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I like it, but not on Fukuyamas car, well not with those wheels. Like most said it needs more aggressive wheel fitment. I haven't decided if I will get it yet, but I would like to do it some justice with wide wheels!
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I think Yashio Factory 180sx street tune looked like that one.

I think it looks alright.
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I think Yashio Factory 180sx street tune looked like that one... I think it looks alright.
thats actually a vertex ridge kit, widebody and all.

back to the origin urban line, it looks like a mismatched kit from ebay. it would probably looked better if they matched the lines from the bottom of the sides and rear with the front.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:22 PM   #10
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front end reminds me of the dsg car

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i like it, looks alot better when its painted. when i saw the white pic a while back i didnt really like it.
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:15 PM   #12
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that silvia front is super sexy!
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that silvia front is super sexy!
I want to see the actual kit

I can visualize it on Silvia (with the other pic) but IRL would help
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i like the look of the sideskirts and rear bumpers, but i aint feeling the front bumpers too much, id probably throw one one of their "stylish" front bumpers instead.
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that silvia front is super sexy!
I second that motion.
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you know...now i feel like ive accomplished something today.

i've now thrown up in my mouth.

finally, closure.
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I personally don't like the kit, plus on the red s13 it look worst than in the other pics.. and uras wheels are ugly!!
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:47 AM   #18
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i dont know....it might end up growing on me but right now ill say its just OK nothing more nothing less
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Ugh, Silvia one is gross.
I'm starting to like Silvia fronts less and less. I think I might be gay for flip lights.
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Ugh, Silvia one is gross.
I'm starting to like Silvia fronts less and less. I think I might be gay for flip lights.
you're still 19, as you get older you'll realize what floats your boat or what not. haha j/k
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Ugh, Silvia one is gross.
I'm starting to like Silvia fronts less and less. I think I might be gay for flip lights.
No it's totally cool, I've always hated the S13 Silvia front, all cars should have pop-up lights.
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If you want that clean style I think Vertex is still better looking.
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looks ok. i just have to get used to it.
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hmm..the Z had a urban line out
now the s13
is the s14 next? i hope so
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It doesn't look too bad but like others mentioned, not justified with the wheel fitment and I think the top of the middle opening on the front should be flush with the side openings. Jmo.
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Looks... boring...

Nothing new.
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Front looks like mix of M-Sports and Sexy Style Ver.II
Sides and rear look alot like GP sports.

Looks okay though, i wanna see it on an actually HOT car.
Maybe ill stop by Touge Factory and check it out.
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anyone have pics of the urban on a s13 silvia?

i hate the chopped pics origin uses.
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it looks like "the same old clown shit" as seen "from every other body kit maker ever".
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