vg30dett swap

[Kreator]

Ok people. Whatever. You can go ahead and do it. Except when u are starting a project like this, you never know what you will run into. With sr or ka, you are pretty much set cuz people did this before and u know exactly what you need. I don't know, i might be way off on what it will cost, but i don't see everyone doing this, so there must be a reason behind it.

[jOeHaCk98]

i posted the reasons. What exactly will pop up. A motor is a motor is a motor. The operation is simiar. Modding will not be different. Go-fast principals are the same. Stop worrying what everyone else is doing? I bet you are one of those kids that has to be trendy or else your feelings are hurt.

[Kreator]

Originally posted by jOeHaCk98
I bet you are one of those kids that has to be trendy or else your feelings are hurt.

LOL. My ass. You don't know nothing about me so stfu. What will pop up? **** that you never expected cuz you are the first one doing it this way. Here is an example for you from what i ran into. I got a turbo with internal wastegate for my ka. And now it seems that it won't clear the head <- means i have to get an external WG cuz this one won't fit. There is extra $200 i've never expected to spend. Think anyone warned me about this when i was doing my research? No. And that's with a KA that's been done a million times already. Believe me, you MIGHT run into something that can turn out a huge money pit. Untill someone does this and proves it's as easy as you are saying it is, i'll stick to the traditional ways. If i had the extra money you are willing to spend, i'd be rolling in a z in the first place.

As long as you cant provide me with exact step by step instructions on how, what, and where you'll have to move every single little part and every single tool you'll need for this, i'm not taking your argument.

[jOeHaCk98]

No one told you. Dont blame others. If you would try going to the freshalloy boards you will hear all about the fitment issues dealing with a turbo KA. What manifold did you get? since your not the type to make your own, i would guess you got a RH mani. Just search that and you will have all your answers.

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by Kreator
I got a turbo with internal wastegate for my ka. And now it seems that it won't clear the head <- means i have to get an external WG cuz this one won't fit. There is extra $200 i've never expected to spend.

Originally posted by Kreator

With sr or ka, you are pretty much set cuz people did this before and u know exactly what you need. I don't know, i might be way off on what it will cost, but i don't see everyone doing this, so there must be a reason behind it.

Kinda Contradicting

As long as you cant provide me with exact step by step instructions on how, what, and where you'll have to move every single little part

1. basic engine mechanics. Its a drop in like an SR would be with the modified x-member.

...and tools....

2. Hand tools

i'm not taking your argument.

3. Dont

[misnomer]

My goodness people, discuss ideas, don't get in fights over them.

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by misnomer
My goodness people, discuss ideas, don't get in fights over them.

its more than an idea. It is happening. Im just helping him see that just because it isnt common doesnt mean its any less of a motor. I mean, you can buy forged pistons and rods from the factory for 500 bucks. There are cases online of people hitting 240 whp with exhaust and a bit more boost. Not even an IC. Its a very capable motor. Check out mattbacks dyno chart.

[Kreator]

Sigh. Do you even have a 240? You sound like a kid who just wants to argue online. I'm not blaming anyone. I had about 4-5 months of research before i started buying stuff. I read everything on FA, Zilvia nad nico about this ****. Don't say **** like you know it, cuz u don't.

Other than that, i don't give a ****. It's your car, i don't give a crap if it ends up on ebay half assembled cuz u can't continue the project you started 2 years ago. Give me the names (and hopefully pictures also) of the cars with vg30et swap. And at least some instructions that will explain how the f to do this swap. Along your lines, you can argue that you can swap a big block in a 240: "It's an engine, hows it different from an SR?". Right. I'll stick to my kat.

And if you saying "it's happening", then go do it, then come back, post pics, specs and every penny you spent on it. Then i'll accept i was wrong. Oh and don't be so easy going on the tools. My friend has $1500 worth of tools in his basement, and by now we already spent extra $500 for them so it was easier to turbo the car.

[jOeHaCk98]

Sigh. Do you even have a 240? You sound like a kid who just wants to argue online. I'm not blaming anyone. I had about 4-5 months of research before i started buying stuff.

here is my car. Like you said earlier you have no problem admitting being wrong. I guess now would be a good time.

I read everything on FA, Zilvia nad nico about this ****. Don't say **** like you know it, cuz u don't.

RH fitment issues

In that 4-5 months time, I am guessing you didn't reseach that hard since I found that thread in 5 minutes.

Other than that, i don't give a ****. It's your car, i don't give a crap if it ends up on ebay half assembled cuz u can't continue the project you started 2 years ago. Give me the names (and hopefully pictures also) of the cars with vg30et swap. And at least some instructions that will explain how the f to do this swap. Along your lines, you can argue that you can swap a big block in a 240: "It's an engine, hows it different from an SR?". Right. I'll stick to my kat.

Sorry I won't satisfy you with that pleasure. I am going to finish.
Your right, a big block is just an engine. Fitment however is a task. With the engine I am talking about (vg30et), the fitment issue is taken care of. see crossmember and oilpan

And if you saying "it's happening", then go do it, then come back, post pics, specs and every penny you spent on it. Then i'll accept i was wrong.

Since you say you are on FA all the time researching, check out that vg30et post. It was in your "4-5 months research time."

Oh and don't be so easy going on the tools. My friend has $1500 worth of tools in his basement, and by now we already spent extra $500 for them so it was easier to turbo the car.[/B]

"Easier" being the key word. Hit the gym and do it with hand tools. Also, so what you have extra tools. If you are a car enthusist, you would always have a use for the tools. Investment well made.


Why are there soo many ******* in your posts. Control your anger. Im not angry with you. Just watchful of the misinformation flying around.

[Kreator]

Me? Angry? Where? Read that FA post noob. Does it say anywhere about an internal WG not fitting correctly? NO. It talks about master cyllinder. I know that problem. The internal WG is NOT mentioned.

I don't read nothing on FA except what i need to know about, cuz that board is full of flaming **** which i don't usually like to read. Please don't bring none of that on these boards. Thanx

PS. Can i still get names and pictures of the people and cars with the VG swap respectively?

Oh and i'm not talking about air tools. Did i even mention those? I'm talking welder, chop saw and stuff like that. Although air compressor is part of what i'm using.

[ca18guy]

Let it go. Kreator is right in saying its not a well documented swap, joehack is right in arguing that its probably not as expensive/hard as Kreator said it would be. You guys lost track of what your arguing about and it turned into this. Times like these i wish i could still lock threads

[misnomer]

Exactly. . . I used to read this thread for the information, and would like to again if you kids stop bickering. You talk about the flaming on FA boards, and not bringing it here, when you've just been continuing for a full page!!

[Kreator]

Sorry bout that guys I was just way too bored in the past 3 days. Promise to never do this again
I still want to see a picture with a vg swap though (not to prove anything, just cuz i never seen it before) so if anyone has it, please post. Thanx

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by Kreator
Sorry bout that guys I was just way too bored in the past 3 days. Promise to never do this again
I still want to see a picture with a vg swap though (not to prove anything, just cuz i never seen it before) so if anyone has it, please post. Thanx

I am not going to seach everything for you. Go to FA and search for it yourself.

Kreator- Dont be a hypocrite about it. You say you dont want to flame but you do. You swear and bash. I was just giving info. Don't take this personal.

[Kreator]

Right. And you are the ideal information booth. Reread the whole thing. Who started the flame war? Me? No. you first post was directed at me with flame. Why am i swearing? Just cuz i like it. Not cuz i'm mad. Not stupid internet flame war will make me mad. It would've been retarded if it did. You say vg produces 200hp @ 4psi. Tell me how better than a KA it is? It also produces 200hp @ 4psi. Oh wait ka actually produces 200rwhp @ 4psi. You gave any information? Where? All the info you said was that its the lightest engine (in 84), *hypotheticly* doesn't cost alot, *hypotheticly* doesn't require alot of modifications. No facts. NONE. Nothing to back you stuf up with. I'm still waiting for those pictures, write ups and what not. The FA search is down. If you are so excited about the swap, you should've had em bookmarked. But nm. Just leave this. This isn't going anywhere, and i don't care about proving anything to you. Later.

[DamnedButDetermined]

Originally posted by jOeHaCk98
As I posted above. ~1000 for a kit including a fabbed oil pan. Not too much

Compare:

SR: 205hp @ $2500 @ ~8psi

VG: 200hp @ $300 @ 4psi IIRC


v6 will be a smoother than an I4. I do love the SR. Its a great engine with much potential. But dont over look the USDM side. It isnt JDM bling, but its still a good engine. I wont preach to those who dont want to listen. Im not selling this to anyone. Parts are just a dealership, pepboys, or a junkyard away.

Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please tell me where you found a VG swap kit! I have been very interested in doing a VG swap, but couldn't find much info and I never found a kit. So please, please, please inform us on this.

thanks alot,
DbD

[Crashed7]

http://www.unstable-hybrids.com/VG30ET/vg2-s.jpg
http://www.unstable-hybrids.com/VG30ET/vg1-s.jpg

also look in the faq's, there is a section for VG30's
You could probably email the guy about the swap. I can't seem to find the page with the project and thumbnailed pics. THe main site is:
www.unstable-hybrids.com

Larry

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by Kreator
Right. And you are the ideal information booth. Reread the whole thing. Who started the flame war? Me? No. you first post was directed at me with flame. Why am i swearing? Just cuz i like it. Not cuz i'm mad. Not stupid internet flame war will make me mad. It would've been retarded if it did. You say vg produces 200hp @ 4psi. Tell me how better than a KA it is? It also produces 200hp @ 4psi. Oh wait ka actually produces 200rwhp @ 4psi. You gave any information? Where? All the info you said was that its the lightest engine (in 84), *hypotheticly* doesn't cost alot, *hypotheticly* doesn't require alot of modifications. No facts. NONE. Nothing to back you stuf up with. I'm still waiting for those pictures, write ups and what not. The FA search is down. If you are so excited about the swap, you should've had em bookmarked. But nm. Just leave this. This isn't going anywhere, and i don't care about proving anything to you. Later.

Well about the cost. Again, you're not being too resourceful. www.car-parts.com for quotes. Or go the the pick-n-pull if you have one in your area. They usually sell a complete engine for 99 bucks.


DamnedButDetermined- The kit isnt released yet. As soon as it is i will be snagging one, as well as a handful of guys from the FA boards. If you are intrested PM mattback from the FA boards.

[misnomer]

http://www.unstable-hybrids.com/FAQ_VG.htm

That's got a fair deal of vg info. I've seen pictures of 240s with VG30DETT swaps, at least two separate cars. I can't find anything on the interweb of them anymore, though.

[jOeHaCk98]

Originally posted by misnomer
http://www.unstable-hybrids.com/FAQ_VG.htm

That's got a fair deal of vg info. I've seen pictures of 240s with VG30DETT swaps, at least two separate cars. I can't find anything on the interweb of them anymore, though.

Yes, UH has a lot of projects so it makes it seem like a really long process. Mattback has a 400+ VG in his z31, but he wants the handling on an S chassis so he is doing the swap. The manifold is going to be a GN style with the turbo in the front. Look at the room in the front. That engine sure sits back. midship engine like a 350z.

[Phlip]

Guys, lets stop arguing... Scrap the whole idea and swap a Q45 V8 with a Z32 6-speed instead if you want to be REALLY different?

[adr66tec]

the vg30dett swap has been done before. from what i hear, you need to put in a custom intake manifold to make it fit as well. ive been researching this swap for awhile as i find it a pretty interesting idea. strangely enough, its been said that the 240sx engine bay is quit capable of containing 6 cylinder engines. if the engine sits further back in your bay, drill in new holes. i found motor mounts for the vg30dett for around 250 at www.splparts.com (its either that or www.slpparts.com, i get them mixed up). ive found many vg30dett front clips for under 3000, usually anywhere from 2300-2700. you'll definitely want to get the entire front clip so you can get the drivetrain, transmission, ecu (all of which must be replaced), and (i have yet to figure out if they fit) the dual side mount intercoolers, among other crap. if the swap turns out to be somewhat feasible i'll end up doing most of the work myself, with the help of a few friends (who luckily have all of the necessary tools, even welders, etc.). either way, itll be a bitch of a project, so prepare yourself for either hard work or a huge dent in your wallet.

[kanekz]

OMG!!! you are bringing back a post that alomst 1yr old!!! Well 2 more months and it will be. Welcome to zilvia noob!!

[heinekenns]

My swap in a s14. Since those pics, I have bought another s14 to finish the swap in. I bought my 240 3 years ago to do this swap and have worked with it ever since. There is not alot of info online about it, and if there is any, I like to brag and say I know about it - trust me when I say everything has to be custom (engine mounts, tranny crossmember, manifolds, driveshaft, new accessory brackets) and a whole slew of problems have come up - swapping parts between NA and TT (for example: power steering, alternator bracket, etc.) is needed. Simply using a z32 crossmember will not work. And there are even more serious fitment issues in s13's. I dont do s13's though, so no problems here. I have a large thread with alot of info and pics on FA - search for " Project vg30de(tt) in a s14: part 1"
I'm always open for questions, so shoot
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[pedwards]

this proves vg30et is possible http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/187589 . here is the larger and heavier vg30dett swapped into an s13vand they say it still handles just as well.

[punxva]

but are you willing to have to basically pull the engine just to do minor work on it? im currently swapping a vg for a friend for his 300zx, and i tell you no lie that its the biggest pain in the ass. plus this engine is heavy...

[Neejay]

Originally Posted by pedwards

this proves vg30et is possible http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/187589 . here is the larger and heavier vg30dett swapped into an s13vand they say it still handles just as well.

Man...this thread is 3 YEARS OLD.

[Neejay]

Originally Posted by punxva

but are you willing to have to basically pull the engine just to do minor work on it? im currently swapping a vg for a friend for his 300zx, and i tell you no lie that its the biggest pain in the ass. plus this engine is heavy...

Premie :-\ 3 years old thread LOL j/k