4/21/11.....

[revcyanide]

I used to go to mexico city all the time when i lived in tucson, and was constintly in nogalas, but yeah, when i was in tucson a LOT of this is spilling over the boarder into us states. sucks.

[boobs13]

Originally Posted by Karlitos

I havent been seeing mexican news lately but last time i did (late '10) mexico city was fine... Northern mexican states is where the trouble's been at, which is where the incident took place.

They never post it up on the news because its that bad...

Originally Posted by Live2Slide

You mean country?

lol country, city, state whatever it is...

[lucky7]

Originally Posted by boobs13

They never post it up on the news because its that bad...

because liberals don't want people to know there is actually a reason to beef up border security.

[ESmorz]

There's violence in Mexico?

Who knew?

[Matej]

Originally Posted by BustedS13

i wish we'd go ahead and annex Mexico already.

California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas may as well be called North Mexico.
Colorado and Oklahoma are getting there as well.

[Wake]

Originally Posted by lucky7

because liberals don't want people to know there is actually a reason to beef up border security.

Thats a fucking joke right?

You really think Liberals control the media? LOL

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by WakeBHR

Thats a fucking joke right?

You really think Liberals control the media? LOL

That completely depends on which media you are talking about. Now Fox News is controlled by the right wing conservatives. While the New York Times, Chicago Trubune, LA Times is controlled by the Liberal Left.

Its a little bit of a yin and yang thing. Except not in one place. it would be nice to see a newspaper print both sides as it would be nice to see a Television news organization broadcast both sides. Unfortunately that is few and far between.

Things in this country have become to polarized. No one is willing to come to middle ground. Its at the Federal level as well as the state level. Both sides have their heads up their asses. LOL

Oh but I digress, this is off topic to the thread.

To bring it back on Topic

Ya Mexico is fucked up now and ya its sad that Cartel is doing that shit and yes its spilling over the boarder into the U.S.

[thenooblet]

Originally Posted by Matej

California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas may as well be called North Mexico.

Truth.....

[Wake]

BBC WORLD FTW!!!

thats what I watch lol

[RJF]

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

america will handle this!

Nothing will happen under this administration. Our borders aren't even secure. Those are Democrat voters down there.

[Brian]

RIP Tomcat

[tqstarburst]

I live in El paso Texas and Juarex Mexico is right at our front door. For the past year or year and half all you hear in the news is about the killings next door. Literally 10 kills per day or more. I've became to be bored of the topic,cause that's all i see and i hardly ever watch the news since i already know what they're going to be talking about. Shit is very very dangerous.

[TheWolf]

listen.. the president said it himself.. there's no need to stop the flow of undocumented people into this country... they're hard working people like you and me who just need a break.. it would be unfair to single them out for deportation.. they deserve the american dream.. and I'm sure once all these armed drug dealing murdering people come into america, they'll straighten up, fly right and become productive members of society... it's all about hope and change..

[ronmcdon]

I just don't get the impression that the Mexican Prez Felipe/Phlip Calderon (or whatever the dude's name is) really has much control at all.
While Calderon's intentions were admirable, he probably made things a lot worse.
I've lost count of when all the 'out of control' gang violence even started.
Must have been at least 5 years or more since things got really bad.
Def not going to Mexico anytime soon & risk getting beheaded or worse.
If other ppl feel the same, that's not going to be so great for Mexico's economy, which in turn probably also effects the US.

Now I usually don't condone the US interfering with other countries problems,
but when the violence spills over the borders maybe something more ought to be done.
don't see things getting better otherwise.

[ronmcdon]

Originally Posted by WakeBHR

Thats a fucking joke right?

You really think Liberals control the media? LOL

Yeah, every media (like every person) is likely to have some bias or another.
Ultimately they're businesses, and at the most basic level, they need to cater to what customers want just to stay afloat.

Some media are more moderate than others.
NPR is probably one of the more balanced news source, albeit with a slight liberal leaning.

[Karlitos]

This can probably be moved to the heated topic section(whatvers its called) but when i said news i meant mexican news. I lived in Tijuana for the weekends for a while and they mentioned a lot of stuff. Last i heard things in mexico city calmed down( but its been a while) but Baja California, Sonora, Nuevo Leon are all baaaad... Definitely dont want to be there because anytime can be a wrong place situation and that would just suck.

Mexico would be a place I would actually want the US military to go, instead of all the middle eastern countries going through revolt. Because if you think about it, its a civil war in mexico. It is called the war against drug trafficking and the mexican military patrols mexican streets because the cops are too corrupt. The mexican military is also heading in that direction, and i feel having the us military go would be much more important for the us than going to libya and egypt or the other countries.

[lucky7]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I just don't get the impression that the Mexican Prez Felipe/Phlip Calderon (or whatever the dude's name is) really has much control at all.
While Calderon's intentions were admirable, he probably made things a lot worse.
I've lost count of when all the 'out of control' gang violence even started.
Must have been at least 5 years or more since things got really bad.
Def not going to Mexico anytime soon & risk getting beheaded or worse.
If other ppl feel the same, that's not going to be so great for Mexico's economy, which in turn probably also effects the US.

Now I usually don't condone the US interfering with other countries problems,
but when the violence spills over the borders maybe something more ought to be done.
don't see things getting better otherwise.

i think it's well known that the Mexican govt has almost no control over the shit that's going on there. it's been that way for quite a while from what i understand.

[gearhead55]

Originally Posted by Brian

RIP Tomcat

seriously. coolest fighter jet ever. swing wings are the shit. F14s were my childhood life until i discovered the lamborghini diablo...

[Wake]

I have an unopened revell tomcat model in my garage. I should put that together.

That and the SR-71 were probably the coolest thing i had ever seen when I was a kid. Harrier were cool just cuz of VTOL

[gearhead55]

SR71s are cool too. VTOL of the harrier is cool but i was never into them, i dunno why.

I would always buy models too, but never got around to finishing them haha.

[Matej]

The US is Mexico's main customer in the drug trade.
If you 'celebrated 420' this week or did a line off that girl's chest in that one place last night, you supported beheading of Mexicans.

Possibly.

[gearhead55]

Yeah, and if you legalize weed that consumption of cartel controlled product would evaporate, putting a huge dent in their profits (close to 50% IIRC).

[boobs13]

It's funny how in the beggining people were like "wow really this thread is stupid" and now people are getting into it lol...

[whats_a_sr20]

Originally Posted by Matej

The US is Mexico's main customer in the drug trade.
If you 'celebrated 420' this week or did a line off that girl's chest in that one place last night, you supported beheading of Mexicans.

Possibly.

^^^^ couldn't say it better......

[Wake]

lol god some of you people are clueless.

Most of us californian know exactly who we get our weed from. Maybe the stress they smoke down in socal but I dont think I know a single person that grows thats in a cartel and I know plenty of people.

I am not promoting drug use with the previous statement .simply stating that marijuana of all drugs is not a major contributor to cartels or headless mexican.s.
its druf like coke and black tar heroin that they are really making money off of.

and my statement earlier about liberal controlled medis was supposed to be taken more in the sense that no one side controls the media. You can find a different spin by watching a different channel of course, depending who runs that channel you will get a different point of view. My point was that the media is not controlled by ONLY the lefft.

[whats_a_sr20]

^^^ you wouldnt think mariguana it a big profit for cartels but it is since coccaine demand went down 20% since the 80's.

[whats_a_sr20]

and whats crazy is that i used to live in mendocino county......mendoindo....haha capital of the united states for pot heads....its right ext to humbold county where snoop dogg gets his weed from.

[Live2Slide]

Originally Posted by lucky7

i think it's well known that the Mexican govt has almost no control over the shit that's going on there. it's been that way for quite a while from what i understand.

its because people live in poverty over there, they need money and find it in trafficking. Police officers dont make much over there and need to feed their families and they get offered alot more from the cartels for joining them so they become crooked cops so thats why shits all fucked up over there. In some places people are more scared of the police then the cartel.

[gearhead55]

Originally Posted by WakeBHR

lol god some of you people are clueless.

Most of us californian know exactly who we get our weed from. Maybe the stress they smoke down in socal but I dont think I know a single person that grows thats in a cartel and I know plenty of people.

I am not promoting drug use with the previous statement .simply stating that marijuana of all drugs is not a major contributor to cartels or headless mexican.s.
its druf like coke and black tar heroin that they are really making money off of.

Dude california is not representative of the whole country. I know exactly where my weed comes from and its the same people that grow for clinics. Thats not the way it is for other states though, in states that don't have medical marijuana laws the situation is completely different.

And your second statement is just not true, i know it seems ridiculous that marijuana is such a big part of cartel business, but it actually is. Yes they make much more money per weight for the harder drugs, but literally 50% of their profits come from marijuana.

[Gizmo_S13]

The Zetas were originally started by the Mexican government to combat drug cartels but the drug cartel leader Chapo Guzman got ahold of the Zeta leader and told him he'd pay them 10 times more than the Mexican government does. If you think about it, that move was a smart one considering you get paid next to nothing in Mexico. So what started happening was that since these guys were trained in military tactics they started controlling a lot of the drug trade and a lot of gangs were losing money. So these gangs all united and started a organization called Mata Zetas and since then they have been battling out.