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Old 01-14-2005, 05:06 PM   #1
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Just telling Snail to cheer up, not be depressed, there are many people out there that have worse problems, take control and change life for the better, etc..
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go rent some movies man, porn works also but it gets tiring after a few mins.ummm err sorry to say u need to find a local bed buddy to vent ur frustration on...so yes that means cheating. but seriously i think u just might need some homies and take ur self to a social place to meet new people. did u even know GT4 is coming out.. take care of ur self buddy. we wouldnt want to lose a fellow 240 man.
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oh yeah and if you do decide to off yourself feel free to give me any parts/tools that you think might be handy in the future, k? cool.
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throwback thread! But anyways... Car modding is a terrible way to waste money due to the fact that it becomes a valuable and very vulnerable prized possesion. Any thief who really wants your car can take it, or some drunk bastard can hit you when you least expect it. And in my case all I am remembered by in high-school (technically) is my old car (SUpEr JDm TYte MaZDa MX-6) I even won best car in the yearbook. Now I flip through that shit and say damn thats all I was...not most likely to succed or anything impressive but I drove a car that only other car modders appreciated, which is what... 1 out of 15 drivers on the road? Since MX-6's have next to NO aftermarket support...I slowly spent a total of $4,000 in mods and $4000 in reapairs (POS! and its still fucked till this day) in 2 years. I just did a tally of how much I spent on my S14...I've done OVER $5,000 in mods in not even 6 months yet. I first got the car and I knew I was in trouble cause of the aftermarket support...but damn when I look back, was it really worth it? I could have went to fucking paris then china then hawaii. But now I have a car that just causes envy and jealousy...and it isnt even the best and it never will be.

Sorry for the venting...just that today my coworker saw me looking at the JDM kouki front on the net and I told her I was going to pick up my JDM front on monday for $350. She said "whats wrong with your bumper it...it looks cool, like a transformer" (reffering to stock with lip) then I said "yeah thats why Im changing it to the JDM" and she said "why waste money if its not broken, and whats a JDM?"...I gave up after that. 10 mins later she comes by again and catches me looking at the R34 rims someone was selling awhile back and she said "wow $1500 for rims? and they dont even come with tires? what a waste of money!" Then my other guy co worker walks by and says "skyline rims, those are dope, you should get them"....Then I was thinking about it and Am I putting all this money into my car to impress a bunch of guys? Whoaaaa. Then another little thing I noticed today, a lady was walking on the sidewalk with a cigarette talking to her friend and she ashed on a car and wasnt even paying attention...I was just thinking, what if I was parked there? Most people in the world dont really give a flying fuck what you drive. And I just realized I spend most of the day looking at cars, reading about cars, thinking about cars...whats the big deal? I don't have anything else to spend my money on and this was always an outlet that was supported by friends and I always thought was right (big bro does muscle cars). And I earned every penny of that money for the past 3 years too, I worked my ass off, it was NOT handed down from mommy and daddy! And all I have to show for it is a broke-down mazda that i put back to stock. Sorry again for venting just something that was eating at me all day.

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throwback thread! But anyways... Car modding is a terrible way to waste money due to the fact that it becomes a valuable and very vulnerable prized possesion. Any thief who really wants your car can take it, or some drunk bastard can hit you when you least expect it. And in my case all I am remembered by in high-school (technically) is my old car (SUpEr JDm TYte MaZDa MX-6) I even won best car in the yearbook. Now I flip through that shit and say damn thats all I was...not most likely to succed or anything impressive but I drove a car that only other car modders appreciated, which is what... 1 out of 15 drivers on the road? Since MX-6's have next to NO aftermarket support...I slowly spent a total of $4,000 in mods and $4000 in reapairs (POS! and its still fucked till this day) in 2 years. I just did a tally of how much I spent on my S14...I've done OVER $5,000 in mods in not even 6 months yet. I first got the car and I knew I was in trouble cause of the aftermarket support...but damn when I look back, was it really worth it? I could have went to fucking paris then china then hawaii. But now I have a car that just causes envy and jealousy...and it isnt even the best and it never will be.

Sorry for the venting...just that today my coworker saw me looking at the JDM kouki front on the net and I told her I was going to pick up my JDM front on monday for $350. She said "whats wrong with your bumper it...it looks cool, like a transformer" (reffering to stock with lip) then I said "yeah thats why Im changing it to the JDM" and she said "why waste money if its not broken, and whats a JDM?"...I gave up after that. 10 mins later she comes by again and catches me looking at the R34 rims someone was selling awhile back and she said "wow $1500 for rims? and they dont even come with tires? what a waste of money!" Then my other guy co worker walks by and says "skyline rims, those are dope, you should get them"....Then I was thinking about it and Am I putting all this money into my car to impress a bunch of guys? Whoaaaa. Then another little thing I noticed today, a lady was walking on the sidewalk with a cigarette talking to her friend and she ashed on a car and wasnt even paying attention...I was just thinking, what if I was parked there? Most people in the world dont really give a flying fuck what you drive. And I just realized I spend most of the day looking at cars, reading about cars, thinking about cars...whats the big deal? I don't have anything else to spend my money on and this was always an outlet that was supported by friends and I always thought was right (big bro does muscle cars). And I earned every penny of that money for the past 3 years too, I worked my ass off, it was NOT handed down from mommy and daddy! And all I have to show for it is a broke-down mazda that i put back to stock. Sorry again for venting just something that was eating at me all day.

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Amen to that one bro..

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my current car gets more attention than any of the previous cars I've owned, but I didnt do shit to it, LOL.

only thing i found modding/driving cars good for is putting off troubles, (not thinking about em).. but time is drawing near, and I really should have saved or spent that money in other ways.. I'm glad instead of lowering my car or getting a set of rims I could go back home again and visit my family, plus had a damn good time, these memories I will never forget. I am just thinking there is more to life than something with 4 wheels. It doesnt mean I wont completely turn my back on my car hobby, but I will never make my life rotate around it again. I am glad I picked up the knowledge I have with the 5 240sx's I've owned in the past few years, which helped me get a job that lets me enjoy what I do.
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10 mins later she comes by again and catches me looking at the R34 rims someone was selling awhile back and she said "wow $1500 for rims? and they dont even come with tires? what a waste of money!" Then my other guy co worker walks by and says "skyline rims, those are dope, you should get them"....Then I was thinking about it and Am I putting all this money into my car to impress a bunch of guys? Whoaaaa.
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I always liked show cars since I was into the lowrider scene when I was a youngin...living in So Cal, lowriders were the shit back in 94. Then I started to get into imports and when I finally got a car I realized that show cars are a waste of money. All that is done just to impress the judges, its all cookie cutter..need 13 tvs in your car and neon everywhere or your car sucks. I never did anything cause someone told me to, so I strayed away from the show scene and decided just to fix my mazda up the way I wanted to...clean yet custom. But thats kinda the joy out of anything...have other people impressed at your work. I'm not saying you should paint your car easter egg yellow cause hot import nights says its cool...but we all mod our cars to impress eachother whether you admit it or not....doing a clean slide or smoking a supra with that RB... we all do it so someone will say "damn hes smooth"..haha.. but seriously, does anyone really need $2,500 volk rims?? It's just so you can say yup those ARE volks! Now im not saying people ONLY mod there cars to impress others...I like the feeling of going 130 mph and I'm sure drifting probably gives you a rush too, but theres nothing better then getting compliments. You worked your ass off to get those volks or swap in that SR20 and you should be damn proud. And like I said earlier If you do got those volks, someone says damn I wish I had those...which is jealousy. And back to what I was saying...I'm into clean yet custom. I wanted the full jdm kouki aero but I've seen 4 different koukis with it in person, randomly so that takes the custom away from my goals, and I dont like bodykits cause that takes away from the clean. So now I'm just stuck basically. Dont get me wrong if you love drifting and drift every weekend..that makes total sense, but the way I look at my car in the custom sense..it just doesnt make sense to me anymore and its just not worth it. Should I import a RHD dash just so I'm up on those other 4 S14's I saw?? And the kid in this thread was (2 years ago haha) in the same mindset I'm in...cars cars cars cars...how can I make my car unique....what can i take from another car and blah blah...its just a waste. I'm just happy im starting to think like this when im 18. Just like grant said....I just realized my life revolves around cars....as soon as I hear an exhaust I'm like a hawk looking to see what kind of car it is... spotting mods... checking driver...How fucking retarded is that? Cause its a competition...you hear exhaust then you hear pshhhh...BOV...damn I need a BOv..I need a bigger turbo I need blah blah so I can beat THAT guy. Woop tee doo...I know someone is reading this and saying hey I do the same thing!...but yeah I dunno..

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what you guys dont understand is that since just about everything we do is a waste of time and money dumping an excessive amoutn of effort and cash into car you like is totally reasonable. do you really think you should drop 5grand in super nice house furnishings or get a few more parts for the car? sccrew my house. i don't NEED a kitchen table. i NEED coilovers so i can do one of the things that makes me feel the best i've ever felt. i love wrenching and all but driving is where my heart is so almost everything i do is to make that experience better. screw some hypocrite that says i waste money on "some littel nissan". dump money on your drugs, women, and other crap that you can't truly enjoy. i'll take my cars cause i have yet to see one leave a guy for his best friend.

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I know this thread is a year old....but going to a party/club/bar/some social event, getting tipsy (drunk), and talking to whatever girl is next to you works wonders.


I don't know if TheSnail is reading this thread....properly has another girl by now (I hope).
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dude why are you telling us all of this? if you think cars are a boring hobby, then go find something that's more fun, more power to you. the differences between 2500$ Volks and 500$ tenzos have been said before...weight, strength, sizing, production quality. so some people really do need the expensive shit to have the most fun at their hobby. when you are at the limit with your car, you want the best shit to keep you safe and in control. if you feel that you are buying expensive parts just to show off, then maybe you are in the wrong mindset. personally, if i had 5000$ in mods in 6 months on my car, i would have a car that i could drive the shit out of in a fun, safe way, and be damn proud of how it performed. if the parts i got made it look cool, then thats a bonus. it looks like you are regretting spending all that money, which maybe means your head wasn't in the right place when you bought it.

look at any hobby, they all have expensive shit that people buy to excell. in your example of mountain climbing for example...you could say "does anybody really need a 500$ North Face jacket" or something along those lines. but when you're in a blizzard on some mountain, i'm pretty sure you'd want to be in the best equipment, not some 30$ Riddell hoody you got from Wal-Mart that won't protect you.

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people buy expensive shit because they do not want to sacrifice quality for price.
think carefully about why you are buying a part before you buy it to decide if you really want/need it.
theres cheap shit and expensive shit in every hobby.
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Damn guys. Its an old thread, but thanks for the input. At the time, I was bored out of my mined and was building my sr at the time. With my broke ass, and no car for 3months. I had nothing to do but to keep building the car, and saving every penny. I drank a crap load back then, flunked out of school, had no job, got DUI, and the machine shop guy that was replacing my sr rod/crank bearings, was in the emergency room for the next 2 months, then ended up dieing a month later. So I had $4000, in the sr, with still harness, ecu igniter to go, and putting my sr together. about one month after this thread was made I woke up one fine hangover morning, and snapped and decided that if I was going to go all out with my car, and at a 4000$ price tag on an incomplete sr, I was going to make the project more involving, difficult and expensive, but since I did not see my car going any where, and nothing to do, I had all the time in the world. So I parted out the sr and a bunch of other goodies and bought an rb26. After that, My broke ass had to figure out a way to make money to get everything else I needed to install the motor. I did three swaps for people, and that was enough to build my first “selling” car. I got a 91 hatch for 1g, rb20 for 1g, and 400$ for miscellaneous parts, then put it on ebay that sold for 6000 in cash. Now a bit happier since I had was making something good out of my days, and making lots of $$$, Over the next 5 months, I built 3 more rb20 cars and a ca car. I stopped about 2months ago, but I am set as far as having money. Which also lifted my spirits since I did not have to desperately find a way to make small money. Spending 10g+ on my car was not an issue anymore, and it was fun to have money to just buy what ever you wanted. I felt like the richest poor guy. It was great, but it got old. making and selling cars was cool and all, but I had plenty of time to do nothing. Kind of like when you were a kid and you got out for summer, and you were glad to be out of school, but then the last days of summer you were exited to go back. Any ways it was something like that. I had all the money to get some nice things for my car, and money left over to make sure I had enough money to complete it, and I had 2g's put aside to attend school again. I don’t like the feeling of doing nothing with your life for a long period of time. So I made sure to have money to get my ejumakation first. I put my priorities first and put down the tools, (except weekends) and chilled out on drinking so heavily. I just started class last week and unlike last year where I had HOPE and lost it due to my grades, this year its coming out of my pocket, so I will do my HW for damn sure this time. Now I have school to take up my time and a completed car to enjoy life. Life is good now, It was hell when this thread was created, but I managed to climb back up as I was falling to rock bottom. Thanks for all the support!
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Is it just me or do I have no life.
Shits deppresing when you move, so a block of metal (240) is one of my only friends.I understand having a hobbie is cool and all, but since the car is always there, its basically all Ive done in the past two years. I guess its better then my first year moved ( drugs drugs drugs) and all that shit is probably the reason I feel like shit. Anyway, I dont want to become obsesive on 240's, I wake up now and think 240, 240 240, but I would hate to see my self disconected from society, in my house with 240sx paper weights, 240 shaped cookies, and so on. Does any one else know what I mean, or am I just taking crazy pills?
go start a cheap hobby like me. Costs like 1000-1200 to start but doesn't really require much money after that other then the ocational battery. I am talking about filming events. Like local drifting events and stuff. When i move to sacramento thats what im going to start doing.

If you do get a camara just make sure it has 3ccd. Anyway good luck. But for now im in the same boat
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I'm not putting anyone down for doing what they are doing... shit I've been doing it the past 3 years...I'm just getting over the car scene now personally and realized there are other things in life besides cars, but thats the only thing I been concentrating on the past few years, thats why im trippin out ...I read snails first post and said holy crap thats me...I wake up and say 240sx..every break at work im on zilvia...its like im addicted or something. And the title says "I have no life" and I said hey me too! I think it was just a reality check with all the crap happening...I'm turning 19 soon and my bullshitted 18th year is over so now I have to take stuff seriously like college and start doing more productive stuff with my time and money instead of surfing zilvia all day and chatting about sound systems and engines. Sorry about the long speech too..I just went nuts when I thought of a lifestyle change.

tew photy: I agree with you to the fullest, my car time has passed and I AM looking to get into other things....guitars, basketball, something that can give me a new sense of accomplishment. I want to do something that someone appreciates instead of envying. Someone would ask me what My hobbies were...I say cars..then thats it. I need to expand to live life more instead of living in a car world. And I totally agree with the expensive shit is good shit theory! I just dont know how to explain myself correctly.

PS: Glad to hear Snail came out of the lifeless hole and turned it into something he loved to do! Now throw me a shovel please! haha

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I'm not putting anyone down for doing what they are doing... shit I've been doing it the past 3 years...I'm just getting over the car scene now personally and realized there are other things in life besides cars, but thats the only thing I been concentrating on the past few years, thats why im trippin out ...I read snails first post and said holy crap thats me...I wake up and say 240sx..every break at work im on zilvia...its like im addicted or something. And the title says "I have no life" and I said hey me too! I think it was just a reality check with all the crap happening...I'm turning 19 soon and my bullshitted 18th year is over so now I have to take stuff seriously like college and start doing more productive stuff with my time and money instead of surfing zilvia all day and chatting about sound systems and engines. Sorry about the long speech too..I just went nuts when I thought of a lifestyle change.

tew photy: I agree with you to the fullest, my car time has passed and I AM looking to get into other things....guitars, basketball, something that can give me a new sense of accomplishment. I want to do something that someone appreciates instead of envying. Someone would ask me what My hobbies were...I say cars..then thats it. I need to expand to live life more instead of living in a car world. And I totally agree with the expensive shit is good shit theory! I just dont know how to explain myself correctly.

PS: Glad to hear Snail came out of the lifeless hole and turned it into something he loved to do! Now throw me a shovel please! haha

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All I'm saying is that there is more to life than cars, simple as that.. For some people. its their life, its what makes them happy. so be it.
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This thread was awsome... It shed some light into my life. thanks!
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if you don't love it don't do it. its as simple as that. someof you are tallking like you're 40 years old and have a NEED to stop dropping dimes on the stuff you love. screw that.
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ok makoto you LOVE cars...I get it. A month ago I would have said the same thing. You're not getting the point I'm trying to make. I'm saying I am 18 years old...been "obsessed" with cars for the past 5 years. The last time I had fun doing something else was when I was 13 playing a playstation. I know guys that have been into cars since they were 15 and now they're 25 and they live in the smallest apartment with the fastest WRX in the world. Yet they are still the happiest person on earth. Now same scenario...But car gets stolen. The only thing that you had to show for your 25 years of living is gone. The pride and joy of your life is in pieces somewhere and now you drive a stock civic. That happened to someone I know. The point I'm trying to make is when all you do is cars all the time, what happens when you cant do cars anymore or you're forced into a lifestyle change.
I personally was so sucked into the import craze that it was all I did...used to go to the illegal street races...car shows...car meets...whatever. Now if one day lets say it became illegal to drive any Jap cars in america, not saying it will; but follow, what the hell would I do? The only reason I woke up for has been taken away. Work isnt paying for my mods anymore... so I'm not working for any reward. If you love ONE thing...imagine life without it. If you let your life revolve around cars, you're missing out on so much other stuff going on in the world. Thats how I feel anyways. I used to think "why spend $200 on a stupid football game that lasts 3 hours when I can buy springs that I will have forever". I have finally realized its about all the experiences rather then having the most JDMest car EvEr! Cars should be left as a hobby not a money pit that consumes all your free time.

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an 18 year old is telling this to a 22 year old college graduate that has had more liffe experience than some poeple ever do... this.. no you have missed the point. just because you love something doesn't mean your life revolves around it. there is a difference between pursuing a dream and letting it consume your life. apparently you just lack the backbone to keep everything in balance.

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I'm not saying YOU personally...im trying to make a point...for some people it is the life, for me it isnt all it cracked up to be. I was just posting to shed some light on other things. You gotta keep an open mind. Basically if its the life for you, good for you... but consider the options. I'm not saying everyone should turn in there 240's and start playing b-ball, but try it...you might like it. I mean I started at 13 what if I became a mechanic and I spent my whole life messing with cars? Thats something that I have decided I don't want to do. I'm not quitting on my car, but I wont be as engaged as I used to be. And Makoto you're absolutely right... the problem is it did consume my life, I feel it did anyways, so it is a problem to me. I'm sure you did have many other experiences too, I want to be caught up by the time I'm 22, ya feel me.

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Geez, you guys need to chill out. I'm 27 now. I must be an old man to you! I've been messing with cars for the past 8 years or so and I'm not even that worked up on this as you guys.

The 240 is my 3rd car to modify and build. Looking back now I have to agree that when the car does become your life it really destroys you when something happens. I've had my cars broken into numerous times, people stealing parts and trying to steal the car itself! But I dont let that ruin my life and not let me do what I want. My 240 was considered TOTALLED in a hit and run accident yet I had it REPAIRED. The repair cost more than the car itself! Each time it feels like my world is falling apart when something happens but I just grit my teeth and keep on going.

I still enjoy cars, driving and racing but I've found that life is not complete without other stuff and people in it. I have friends who are getting married, buying houses and I always get the "when are you going to grow up?" It doesnt bother me because I know what I like and for me it is a hobby not my whole life.

You guys are young, enjoy life, stop worrying about this stuff.
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you know whats funny I got started on my car after I got married and bought a house, but the car is not that important. its just fun to have to take on a course or back road and have fun with what you built, oh and its nice to have the extra power when a guy thinks hes a bad ass...just the expression on their face is worth it..
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Geez, you guys need to chill out. I'm 27 now. I must be an old man to you! I've been messing with cars for the past 8 years or so and I'm not even that worked up on this as you guys.

The 240 is my 3rd car to modify and build. Looking back now I have to agree that when the car does become your life it really destroys you when something happens. I've had my cars broken into numerous times, people stealing parts and trying to steal the car itself! But I dont let that ruin my life and not let me do what I want. My 240 was considered TOTALLED in a hit and run accident yet I had it REPAIRED. The repair cost more than the car itself! Each time it feels like my world is falling apart when something happens but I just grit my teeth and keep on going.

I still enjoy cars, driving and racing but I've found that life is not complete without other stuff and people in it. I have friends who are getting married, buying houses and I always get the "when are you going to grow up?" It doesnt bother me because I know what I like and for me it is a hobby not my whole life.

You guys are young, enjoy life, stop worrying about this stuff.
I am much the same except heavily into drugs when young, but have stopped, it seems cars are my new drug of choice. IMO it is the drugs that make everything outside of being stoned boring... Seems logical but few people consider the reality. You need to a few different interests for sure struggling at the moment.
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I would consider working on and driving cars to be a much better hobby than drinking or doing recreational drugs. The prevalence of dependence on alcohol and drugs in modern society is both pathetic and troubling. To me, it signifies the degradation of human control to the level of animal.

One's life should not be spent seeking out sources of instant gratification.
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