FL 1997 240sx 200,000 miles daily / beater

[tobroketobuildarealcar]

Car is clean for shire and appears to be done right but for someone to ask 13k for a 240 and not want to publicly disclose the full mod list is crazy

[Ned007]

pretty sure the dude has a build thread somewhere on this car, i'm sure he can provide link for parts he used.

[240o'clock]

for 1k more id rather get these super clean Rb25 kouki.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=608296

[b] Dont get me wrong, this S14 looked great, But for 13.5k with only having an SR seems to be a bit much. If you want to get most of your money back part the car out thats the only way but i see you MAYBE getting 10k AS IS. Not a penny more, i Hope you do sell it for your asking price but lets just face it not the average Zilvia member or 240 owner has 13k to dish out for a pretty close to stock S14 (Only thing not stock to this car is the Engine and maybe a couple other parts.). Hell i can get a pretty clean FD between 12k-18k.

Anywho Best of luck for you with this sale bro, Deff a 240 that has been well taken care of.

[dizzariot]

Dude you're selling both...? Did I miss something...?

[Kingtal0n]

I cant afford two cars. I mean I cannot drive two- you need insurance, tag for it. So I do not drive it. I am worried if I do put a tag on it, suddenly somebody will want to buy it, I just threw away money on purpose? might try ebay soon...

[dizzariot]

Damn man that sucks. Are you just going to see which one goes first and then keep the other...?

[Kingtal0n]

Originally Posted by dizzariot

Damn man that sucks. Are you just going to see which one goes first and then keep the other...?

It looks like the green car will be easier to sell. There is no way I am letting Updated rules go easy. Its very hard to find a reliable 240 with an sr20 these days, and Updated rules (the white car) has had the same engine with the same turbo / compression in it for the past 10 years driving fine, I expect to get another 5-10 years out of it at least. Although its been quite boring just driving a car, now that maintenance is all kept up with it. I Have to check my log (its on my build thread) yet I feel like this car is good for 4-5 years on maintenance, considering I just literally did almost everything one can do to update it (clutch/gaskets/mounts/fluids). I Just drove it 260 miles here to Orange city, FL (if anyone local wants to meet up, I have time while I am here on vacation) and I am loving this car, more than any 240 I have ever owned, just the way it drives and the options you have with it (want it quiet? flip the switch. Want it loud? flip the switch).


So I am cruising on the highway at 70~mph and writing down my EGT/fuel injector duty with the open exhaust and a very loud mustang pulls besides me.
I write "980*F / 8.8%") and then set my pen down, and wave. He wants to go. So I flip my switch to quiet, all exhaust noise from my car disappears. Then I hit the boost controller up for .87 bar (I hope the mustang is N/A) and wave him to go. He wants me to go first, haha. Big mistake. I put into 4th and step down gradually. Since my car is deathly silent now I assume he was waiting for it make some noise.... and so by the time he realizes I am going, it is too late.

[Initial Drift]

Why don't you do what you were talking about with putting all the stuff from the white car into the green one because it was a better chassis and just basically swap the shells. And then sell the white one?

[Kingtal0n]

Originally Posted by Initial Drift

Why don't you do what you were talking about with putting all the stuff from the white car into the green one because it was a better chassis and just basically swap the shells. And then sell the white one?

because the white one has $2000 in body panels and $3000 in paint that I cant afford to replicate. And a release steering wheel, have you ever removed one of those? I haven't. Plus that sounds like work. Why take apart a good running car for no reason? I'll deal with a cosmetically worse off frame and just drive it, drive it everywhere. Its no show car, its a daily. It just kinda looks like a show car you wouldn't drive.

On the other hand, for the right price I would totally swap engines. You want the white chassis bare? Lets see,
$3800 97' kouki chassis
$3000 paint
$2000 body panels
$500 steering wheel & accessories
$400 JDM VLSD
$700 Z32s on all 4 corners w/ working E-brake
$2000 Nismo coilovers
$XXXX clifford alarm keyless, oem tie rods, oem tc rods, dvd player, AEM wideband, walbro

add it up and make an offer I guess, usually around half value on parts is market price.

[Initial Drift]

Hmmmmmm.... Maybe that didn't come off the way I was meaning it to be taken. I was just suggesting something you had previously mentioned in the other car thread, or at least i thought I had read that correctly.

I get it is a lot of work. Hell I have a car I need to swap everything over on and I am dreading doing this because I don't have luxuries like lifts or anything and minimal tools. So it definitely is not easy like it could be in shops.

Sorry forget I even mentioned it man. Just hate to see that neither of your cars are getting chosen and puts you in an awkward spot. GL hopefully I won't see this hear in three months still waiting to get sold.

[Kingtal0n]

I just keep lowering the price till one goes. Ebay tonight probably for the green.

[Kingtal0n]

Yeah I See zenkis going for 5k. market is backwards.

I sold an all original kouki with 90k~ for $10,000 at the same exact time someone else sold theirs for about the same, this was 8-9 months ago. I miss the leather D:

You can estimate the value of a 97/98 using my software


It works two ways. One is it compares the price of the car new, along with age related wear. so if you set mileage to zero and everything to perfect the price mirrors a brand new car, but with aged components that need replacement deducted from the cost.
The second thing is I have done is a simple log formula that outputs values very close to what you actually see these cars selling for based on mileage and body condition.
It also teaches the user what pinch is, frame rail, how to raise the car to protect these parts, and more. I can add much more to it ( I am in vacation time right now ) but Im also sleeping alot. a-LOT.

[Kingtal0n]

The only trade I would be interested in would be a completely (completely) stock, all original, 95-98 240sx auto, must have ALL original paint, all original body panels, clean frame rails, clean pinch welds, and must pass a visual inspection by myself. A 95 model, 4-lug, no sun roof, is ideal.

[cnichols]

I have something very close to what you're describing that I just picked up. 95, all original everything, Texas car, so it has some UV/heat wear/tear, but pretty solid and never touched...4 lug, but does have a non-leaking, fully functional sunroof. I'm just not a huge fan of the champagne color and want a white 240 again. I'll get some pics of the rails and pinch welds and see if there's any interest in a trade + money on my end.

-Chris

[Toomuchboost12]

forget all these people not giving you you're asking price man . hold on to your car if they dont want to pay for what you're asking . if you know your car is legit and built properly and not to mention its a True Kouki . then fuck em . this site is full of lowballers all day . people forget . its all about supply and demand . glws op

[Kingtal0n]

Originally Posted by Toomuchboost12

forget all these people not giving you you're asking price man . hold on to your car if they dont want to pay for what you're asking . if you know your car is legit and built properly and not to mention its a True Kouki . then fuck em . this site is full of lowballers all day . people forget . its all about supply and demand . glws op

its my daily and I love it, so yeah its going to stay right where its at thanks

[wanna240]

This is a beautiful car. If I had the money I would have bought already. Good luck

[Kingtal0n]

^ ^

I just came back from vacation, drove 230 miles home from Orangle City.

I know I've got a horrible habit, but I just can't help myself. Every couple of minutes I have to put my foot down and feel the surge of power and then coast back down, but I keep the engine from experiencing a complete vacuum and of make it profitable by playing with the commander, looking for improvements I could make while I have this opportunity. I kept writing down EGT vs fuel injector duty vs speed on a card that I can use later to make a graph about fuel efficiency at some point. These are moments out on the highway with not a car in sight that I pop on the dome light and make these little scratches on a note card.

At one point, with the engine noisy as all hell, as I was passing an on-ramp around a few cars, hiding behind them was a highway patrol car as he got on the highway next to me. Well, he got behind me after he noticed me (my car was loud as hell at that point). I kept on gliding along for about 30 seconds, speeding up and slowing down a little to show him I wasn't scared to tune my car up a little. Then, I closed my exhaust system and put my windows down.

Well, he must have been thinking that was just great. Almost immediately, he pulls up and passes me, and just keeps on going. I could almost hear him thinking "keep that thing shut kid". And then imagined my response, "but officer, it improves fuel economy and lowers egt this way. Just look at this notecard here... "

That wasn't the only fun I had, either. Along the way, a loud GTO came into view (almost as loud as my car, maybe the same). I normally cruise along on the right side, below speed limit, far from other cars (I avoid all other cars and let them pass, and get a good couple of miles in front of me before I put the pedal down). Well this GTO had passed me, and hearing my exhaust I suppose, started slowing down to line up with me, or so I thought. Well I was in a great mood for this of course. So I slowed down too, forcing him to keep decelerating to line up with me if he really wanted to. I was curious if he would I guess. I Noticed he had a passenger and the guy flicked the ash of a cigarette out the window. It didn't anger me or anything, but I do not like the smell. My attempt to slow down and get rid of him didn't work, so... what do you think I tried next? My adrenaline was pulsing in my ears and my head felt light, and I realized, "wow it still happens to me sometimes". When I started speeding up a little bit to pass now, I wondered what he would do.

He would have none of that, however. As soon as he saw me approaching he started inching up in speed as well. His car was in overdrive still, and as I expected, he was waiting for my car to make some noise. I left my car in fifth too and just started inching up on him, ten cars, five cars, I slowly put my pedal down, three cars, at which point he must have realized that he needed a better gear to keep me from passing, which is when I heard him downshift. Heh, I downshifted too, 4th gear speeds, we both put our feet down, me about two car lengths behind him. But not for long. His car was no slouch but I had passed him within a few seconds, and put a few cars on him just to be sure. And then I gently tapped my brakes , allowing the car to fly by me of course, never saw him again.

[evanowski]

Originally Posted by Kingtal0n

^ ^

I just came back from vacation, drove 230 miles home from Orangle City.

I know I've got a horrible habit, but I just can't help myself. Every couple of minutes I have to put my foot down and feel the surge of power and then coast back down, but I keep the engine from experiencing a complete vacuum and of make it profitable by playing with the commander, looking for improvements I could make while I have this opportunity. I kept writing down EGT vs fuel injector duty vs speed on a card that I can use later to make a graph about fuel efficiency at some point. These are moments out on the highway with not a car in sight that I pop on the dome light and make these little scratches on a note card.

At one point, with the engine noisy as all hell, as I was passing an on-ramp around a few cars, hiding behind them was a highway patrol car as he got on the highway next to me. Well, he got behind me after he noticed me (my car was loud as hell at that point). I kept on gliding along for about 30 seconds, speeding up and slowing down a little to show him I wasn't scared to tune my car up a little. Then, I closed my exhaust system and put my windows down.

Well, he must have been thinking that was just great. Almost immediately, he pulls up and passes me, and just keeps on going. I could almost hear him thinking "keep that thing shut kid". And then imagined my response, "but officer, it improves fuel economy and lowers egt this way. Just look at this notecard here... "

That wasn't the only fun I had, either. Along the way, a loud GTO came into view (almost as loud as my car, maybe the same). I normally cruise along on the right side, below speed limit, far from other cars (I avoid all other cars and let them pass, and get a good couple of miles in front of me before I put the pedal down). Well this GTO had passed me, and hearing my exhaust I suppose, started slowing down to line up with me, or so I thought. Well I was in a great mood for this of course. So I slowed down too, forcing him to keep decelerating to line up with me if he really wanted to. I was curious if he would I guess. I Noticed he had a passenger and the guy flicked the ash of a cigarette out the window. It didn't anger me or anything, but I do not like the smell. My attempt to slow down and get rid of him didn't work, so... what do you think I tried next? My adrenaline was pulsing in my ears and my head felt light, and I realized, "wow it still happens to me sometimes". When I started speeding up a little bit to pass now, I wondered what he would do.

He would have none of that, however. As soon as he saw me approaching he started inching up in speed as well. His car was in overdrive still, and as I expected, he was waiting for my car to make some noise. I left my car in fifth too and just started inching up on him, ten cars, five cars, I slowly put my pedal down, three cars, at which point he must have realized that he needed a better gear to keep me from passing, which is when I heard him downshift. Heh, I downshifted too, 4th gear speeds, we both put our feet down, me about two car lengths behind him. But not for long. His car was no slouch but I had passed him within a few seconds, and put a few cars on him just to be sure. And then I gently tapped my brakes , allowing the car to fly by me of course, never saw him again.

^^
This is awesome. This is the kind of stuff that makes you want to get out and drive. For the love of the car, the love of the road. Well done sir.

Eff the forums and the sales ads and all that. When I'm ready to buy another 240 I'm just going to PM you and see what you're willing to part with.

[Apex Eight]

^ Lol, that was awesome. Good read.

[wanna240]

That was funny. It would have been great if you teased him by just staying in front of him, even when he accelerated.

[__Xenios]

Such a quality build. Good luck with the sale man!

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[Kingtal0n]

9-1-15 I am releasing the build for this car


Original 5-speed kouki $4800 1997
Nissan S14 JDM 1998 kouki motor with 98,000km $2700 2008
Apexi Kouki Power FC $950 (4-12-09)
brand new battery (9-1-15) $115
brand new clutch, complete job with brand new bearing (4-6-15) $695
Brand new Apexi Air Filter (2-5-15) $110
Brand New OEM Front main seal (2-12-15) $33
Brand New fuel pump Authentic walbro (2-10-15) $97
Brand new Aluminum radiator (1-15-15) $105
Brand new iridium plugs (9-1-15) $free
Brand new OEM water pump (9-12-14) $57
Brand new hood bumpers OEM (9-12-14) $44
Brand new feed fuel line (10-1-14) $free
Brand new exhaust gaskets/tabs complete job $180 (4-6-15) (turbine, manifold, head, downpipe, locking tabs, all OEM)
Clifford Alarm with keyless entry est 2002-2005
HKS cams & valve springs $575 est 2009
HKS ssqv and actuator $180 est 2007
Nismo 550cc injectors $360 est 2009
Nissan z32 maf $110
Nissan OEM kouki lip $210 2012 (new paint)
Nissan Tie Rods $90 + $40 alignment looks recent, but not my work. Car drives absolutely straight since I got it so I have not touched it. Looks to have been professionally set and I am still on the front tires I got the car with, and they are still 50-60%+ with even wear.
Nissan Z32 30mm aluminum front Brakes w/ stainless lines $345
Nissan z32 rear Brakes & stainless lines $200
Nissan Z32 fuel filter & OEM In-tank strainer $15
Nissan OEM GT28r Ball Bearing Turbocharger $400
Nissan OEM belts $58
Nismo Short Shifter $270
Nismo Thermostat $47
Nismo TC-rods $200
Greddy VSPL Front Mount Intercooler $650
Greddy Strut Tower Brace $185
Greddy turbo intake suction kit $175
JDM S14 Vlsd w/ axles $350
JDM/OEM rear bumper $450
JDM Rear valences $440
JDM Ignition Amplifier $240
Navan side skirts $450
AEM wideband $140
Nardi Torino with quick release $280
Slotted Brembo rotors all around $180
kevlar power steering hose $80
JIC Downpipe & Turbine outlet $170
Digital Pivot fan controller $174
Samco hoses $65
DVD player $free
$3200 pearl white paint job
Heat and Ice cold A/C and Tint $250 (welding lines, charging the system, brand new drier)
Electric Exhaust Cut-Out $90
Nismo track edition coilovers "240SX 1995-1998, 5300R-RS546-US" $1990
Volk Racing SF-Challenge Wheels $2800
+$1108 in receipts for small misc. parts

$18780 parts
$4800 car
$3200 paint

Total: $25,780

Does not include labor

[bmar19]

Originally Posted by Kingtal0n

9-1-15 I am releasing the build for this car


Original 5-speed kouki $4800 1997
Nissan S14 JDM 1998 kouki motor with 98,000km $2700 2008
Apexi Kouki Power FC $950 (4-12-09)
brand new battery (9-1-15) $115
brand new clutch, complete job with brand new bearing (4-6-15) $695
Brand new Apexi Air Filter (2-5-15) $110
Brand New OEM Front main seal (2-12-15) $33
Brand New fuel pump Authentic walbro (2-10-15) $97
Brand new Aluminum radiator (1-15-15) $105
Brand new iridium plugs (9-1-15) $free
Brand new OEM water pump (9-12-14) $57
Brand new hood bumpers OEM (9-12-14) $44
Brand new feed fuel line (10-1-14) $free
Brand new exhaust gaskets/tabs complete job $180 (4-6-15) (turbine, manifold, head, downpipe, locking tabs, all OEM)
Clifford Alarm with keyless entry est 2002-2005
HKS cams & valve springs $575 est 2009
HKS ssqv and actuator $180 est 2007
Nismo 550cc injectors $360 est 2009
Nissan z32 maf $110
Nissan OEM kouki lip $210 2012 (new paint)
Nissan Tie Rods $90 + $40 alignment looks recent, but not my work. Car drives absolutely straight since I got it so I have not touched it. Looks to have been professionally set and I am still on the front tires I got the car with, and they are still 50-60%+ with even wear.
Nissan Z32 30mm aluminum front Brakes w/ stainless lines $345
Nissan z32 rear Brakes & stainless lines $200
Nissan Z32 fuel filter & OEM In-tank strainer $15
Nissan OEM GT28r Ball Bearing Turbocharger $400
Nissan OEM belts $58
Nismo Short Shifter $270
Nismo Thermostat $47
Nismo TC-rods $200
Greddy VSPL Front Mount Intercooler $650
Greddy Strut Tower Brace $185
Greddy turbo intake suction kit $175
JDM S14 Vlsd w/ axles $350
JDM/OEM rear bumper $450
JDM Rear valences $440
JDM Ignition Amplifier $240
Navan side skirts $450
AEM wideband $140
Nardi Torino with quick release $280
Slotted Brembo rotors all around $180
kevlar power steering hose $80
JIC Downpipe & Turbine outlet $170
Digital Pivot fan controller $174
Samco hoses $65
DVD player $free
$3200 pearl white paint job
Heat and Ice cold A/C and Tint $250 (welding lines, charging the system, brand new drier)
Electric Exhaust Cut-Out $90
Nismo track edition coilovers "240SX 1995-1998, 5300R-RS546-US" $1990
Volk Racing SF-Challenge Wheels $2800
+$1108 in receipts for small misc. parts

$18780 parts
$4800 car
$3200 paint

Total: $25,780

Does not include labor

yep and thats exactly why this car is worth it...those who keep saying its not please read...we all know cars don't hold value and you don't get what you put in but his price is fair for what he did and put into this car
....just imagine the labor cost lol!!!!!!


and if you really look at it...some of his prices for parts are even on the low end...like the apex air filter he posted 110 but they are for 180...the samco hoses are a little over 100...btw I'm very jealous you only paid 65 -.- i would have got those instead of isis ones lol..NISMO injectors... i recently sold my used pair for 400 lol they are 700+ new...this is a quality build

[Kingtal0n]

Originally Posted by bmar19

yep and thats exactly why this car is worth it...those who keep saying its not please read...we all know cars don't hold value and you don't get what you put in but his price is fair for what he did and put into this car
....just imagine the labor cost lol!!!!!!


and if you really look at it...some of his prices for parts are even on the low end...like the apex air filter he posted 110 but they are for 180...the samco hoses are a little over 100...btw I'm very jealous you only paid 65 -.- i would have got those instead of isis ones lol..NISMO injectors... i recently sold my used pair for 400 lol they are 700+ new...this is a quality build

Thanks for noticing actually I applied a discount to those parts, since they are used. The prices you see listed are generally not the prices I paid, but rather, what I feel the parts are worth USED if I were to part the vehicle out. This way the value is more realistic for todays used market. And it would also serve as a parts list in the rare case I suddenly decide to part the vehicle out (unlikely).

[bmar19]

if you do part...im local lol!!! jk..shouldn't part this car..it will sell eventually..i wanted the green one...just never had the cash this car is too clean and set up right

[tobroketobuildarealcar]

Now at 13700 this car is fairly priced and should sell for around that. You just can not compare a clean kouki to all the missiles out there they are not easily obtained any more. This car is not a track car it is a nice weekend driver for a enthusiast who wants to maintain and care for a future classic.

[240knockout]

nice car...good luck with sale. I am new to the south Florida area....moved to Victoria Park off of Sunrise. What do you guys do around here for cruising?

[Kingtal0n]

Still driving this every single day. Put 1000 miles last week, just can't stop driving it. Getting new tires soon

[STR8 H8N]

this thing is sick