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Old 07-31-2005, 03:44 AM   #31
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i thought thoes were shit, but 17x8 +25 is a reasonable size for a beater wheel. however 170$ a piece is not a reasonable price for a beater wheel.
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:39 AM   #32
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ok, word up to socal silvia, its cool that you showed us this , its cools that your arranging or forwarding someones group buy for these wheels. I like them, but you are in the wrong area of the forum for this and it will get locked if not moved. There is a Group buy section.
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why does everyone one here make this huge big deal about knock off wheels? who cares if they arent real ssr profs. who cares if they arent JDM tighness with your super FLUSHNESS, run some spacers n stop crying about clearance. roll some fenders n stop complaining about it rubbing. sheesh im only running 16x8+27 all the way arround on 205's that barely stretch and i seem to get by, n funny thing is half you sukkas got gay ass steelies on your car, USDM un'flushness if u ask me. so stop whining. Accept the fact that there are gonna be knock offs and look alikes in the world n deal with it. y ou want the real ones then go pay 500+ a wheel. This thead is similar ot the one about those Sport max wheels on ebayt for 500 for hte set. eberyone wants to clown on them sayingt hey are cheap and ugly. atleast the company is willing to offer oyu a decent size an offset unlike many of the other knock off brands. I dont mean to come off as an ass and rant all over this post but some of you zilvias are starting to piss me off this this picky whicy crap. you dont like then dont by. meanwhile us cheapies wil get then and ROCK them hard like they should be.

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i rock real shit jus cuz i got the money.. but the knock off Rota wheels is nice too and i would rock em if i drive an s13, but i dunno bout the price....$170 wack....i would rather get gram lights 57c 17x9.5 for a lil more.
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I have no affiliation with the group buy, which is why I posted it here. I'm not selling them, nor do I know the guy selling them. I just copied and pasted his post. I pretty much posted this because my S14 was 4-lug base, and wheel options were not abundant. For 4-luggers, 17x8.5 +25 is heaven compared to MOST other AFFORDABLE and AVAILABLE wheel choices. I think it is a solid looking wheel, at a solid price for 4-luggers. If you are 5-lug, you have enough options to where these wheels probably won't appeal to you.
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yeah i agree with you Socal SIlvia
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agreed.
if you're 4 lug and poor, these are a much better offer than those damn sport max's.

the only thing that sucks is the rivet look. it's retarded. those wheel would look much better if they were either multipiece or didn't have the rivets to begin with.
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For the amount you're spending on these fake, knockoff shitty offset/width rims, you can save a bit extra and buy FN01RC's in way better sizing.

For that price, its not even worth it.

http://www.splparts.com/Parts/Univer...en/default.htm

$209 ea + $8 shipping/no tax? wewt. 17x9 +20 4 Lug

You do the math. Why pay name-brand price for cheap ass knockoff rim?
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For the amount you're spending on these fake, knockoff shitty offset/width rims, you can save a bit extra and buy FN01RC's in way better sizing.

For that price, its not even worth it.

http://www.splparts.com/Parts/Univer...en/default.htm

$209 ea + $8 shipping/no tax? wewt. 17x9 +20 4 Lug

You do the math. Why pay name-brand price for cheap ass knockoff rim?
Four reasons.
1. 5zigen wheels are knock offs themselves, and nothing special. hahhahhahahha
2. FNO1Rc's are fugly IMHO!!!
3. You can actually get these wheels cheaper than that group buy and Real SSR Professors are going to cost you a lot more than $209 ea. hahhahhahaha
4. Rota's are every bit as good as 5zigens. Rota's factory is ISO9001-9002!!
Rota was cheap ass shit back in the day but they make a pretty damn good wheel these days. Especially considering the cost.
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Those wheels look like ass. I could care less what brand name a wheel has. I just care about quality, and those rotas just look CHEAP. Fake multi piece is retarded, plain and simple. It makes absolutly no more sense than fake bov's, fmic's on na cars, or dual exit exhaust on a civic. If you want a cheaper wheel I think the grenede gx-01's and dt05-r's have better sizes and dont look quite so lame, not too light tho.
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Those wheels look like ass. I could care less what brand name a wheel has. I just care about quality, and those rotas just look CHEAP. Fake multi piece is retarded, plain and simple. It makes absolutly no more sense than fake bov's, fmic's on na cars, or dual exit exhaust on a civic. If you want a cheaper wheel I think the grenede gx-01's and dt05-r's have better sizes and dont look quite so lame, not too light tho.
hahahha, I bet you judge a book by its cover eh? Why do those wheels look cheap to you and like ass? They do not look bad IMHO. Like I stated earlier Rota manufacturers some good lightweight cast wheels these days . Just ask any of the Miata track guys they run Rota's all the time.
You say you care about quality have you checked out the Rota's in person? Are you qualified to make the statement you make above without actually seeing the product in person? I think not .
This is not, so much of the fact, that I think Rota's are the greatest thing slnce sliced bread, I don't .
It is the fact, that they are a decent wheel, look pretty decent and I bet you might even like them, if you saw them in person . maybe not? I know, you know, I don't want to, even get started about the name brand thing, at least we agree on that.
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The overall design of the wheel is good looking, yes. They copied one of the sickest wheels ever made, so of course it will look pretty dope. The one reason why I hate these wheel is the fake bolts, if they made another version without some fake ass shit on it I would probably even pick up a set. Im not questioning the strength of rotas, they will break or bend just like a work, volk or ssr if you treat them bad enough. And I dont need to see these wheels in person, my personal opinion is that fake multi piece is gay, why would looking at the wheel change that? I also think the fake beadlocker wheels are gay too, I just really dont like fake shit.
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what are these wheels actually called?

there is two different names for them in each thread.

i'd like to call and get local pricing but if they arent available yet then i would need to know exactly what they are called.

also, shut up for arguing. if you dont like them dont buy them.

cars with crazy expensive wheels get stolen, i'd rather look the part and keep my $hit.
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Four reasons.
1. 5zigen wheels are knock offs themselves, and nothing special. hahhahhahahha
2. FNO1Rc's are fugly IMHO!!!
3. You can actually get these wheels cheaper than that group buy and Real SSR Professors are going to cost you a lot more than $209 ea. hahhahhahaha
4. Rota's are every bit as good as 5zigens. Rota's factory is ISO9001-9002!!
Rota was cheap ass shit back in the day but they make a pretty damn good wheel these days. Especially considering the cost.
set aside the whole knockoff thing in kazuo's post, i think your missing his point.

its about the price for size/offset thing he was talking about.

for a little more, you can get a wheel that has better size and offset. granted you think FN are fuly, and these Rotas are good looking, is your opinion. just as how i can say i think these wheels are fugly, it is also my opinion.

and yea SSRs are gonna cost you a lot more, but are they worth it compared to these Rotas? i think so. why do i think so? IMO i think its worth it because i have a more better selection of width and offset compared to these. and no im not saying i would buy the real thing becuz of "brand name" because i know if Rota made these wheels in the same selection with better choices of offset and width, i would get them even if it were fake 3 piece.

would i rock FNs? i would, because they have better sizes.
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to me, bottom line, the sizes they come in are gay. end of story. if i had to choose between these and ugly fn01rc, i'd choose fn's.
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why are fn's ugly all of a sudden? last time i checked, simple 5 spoke with a concave face looked cool
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I like 16's =)
The only thing I really dont like about these is the fake bolts. RICE!!!!
I dont think they are that bad though, cheapish decent offset wheels. I was wondering how long it would take for Rota to start getting into it.
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I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the spokes actually extened all the way to where the fake rivets are (Look at the comparision pic). Geez..If they're faking a 2pcs rim at least try to make them look like one.lol

I don't know how Rota's quality had improved over the years. I used to have a set of Slipstreams and they bent and split like tin cans. iirc ppl reported their cp-035s knockoffs got their spokes separated from the rims during an autocross.
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I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the spokes actually extened all the way to where the fake rivets are (Look at the comparision pic). Geez..If they're faking a 2pcs rim at least try to make them look like one.lol
Look at the third post down, the picture of the real SP1 looks pretty close to the replica. The comparo wheel in the first pic looks like a meister.
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I think I saw a set of these SSR knockoffs today on an IS300. The front and rear were staggered. I think the lower offset ones have more of an dish than the other ones. Or maybe they were the real ones? They didn't have any label on them...

So, where are these wheels available? I looked through the usual Rota dealers and haven't seen any of them. I'd like to see it in person.
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So, where are these wheels available? I looked through the usual Rota dealers and haven't seen any of them. I'd like to see it in person.
your in nor cal right? theres a shop in south city that has em...if you want i can give you their address and everything...i think these arent bad...theres definitely a lot of wheels that are cheaper and better (sizing/offset), but theyre not that bad none the less...just another alternative...until they come out with better sizes/offsets, i probably wouldnt consider them...
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They really shouldve came out with better sizes
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i wonder how many of u own wheels with good size and offsets, i remembred that the overpriced meshie bandwaggon went for 500 w/shitty tires sometimes, pay 200 more and u could have a mucb better size 17x8.5+25 is hardly anything to complain about and in my opinion it WONT sit ultra flush SO RUN SOME SPACERS. sheeshh can someone close this thread cuz..... forget it let it stay open. ill just sit back and watch you pikky asses fight over gay'dee'emm wheel knock offs
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i wonder how many of u own wheels with good size and offsets, i remembred that the overpriced meshie bandwaggon went for 500 w/shitty tires sometimes, pay 200 more and u could have a mucb better size 17x8.5+25 is hardly anything to complain about and in my opinion it WONT sit ultra flush SO RUN SOME SPACERS. sheeshh can someone close this thread cuz..... forget it let it stay open. ill just sit back and watch you pikky asses fight over gay'dee'emm wheel knock offs
Dude, you're the only one in this thread bitching like a little girl. If you like em, then good for you. But don't get all pissy when others don't jock these wheels like you.

Back on topic, the size and offset aren't that bad. I remember when 17x8 +20 / 17x9 +30 front used to be the "normal" wheel sizes for 240's. These wheels are just about the same. I still think they are wizzack tho.


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i'm not gonna blow up and be an asshole lik ei feel i should at this moment nor act out and beat the crap out of u since ur local. just drop it, on another note im not jokin these wheels. they are OK but hte fact that everyone doggs them when a company tried to come out with an affordable look is rediculous. you could have just not opened your mouth and stayed on topid instead of steping ot my level of lowness and commenting on my rant. how about you stay on topic for now on and let me do all the ranting here, otherwise STFU and read. thank you.

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nah i dont get the complaints about sizes either...

i have 16 x 8 +32 and it is perfectly flush up front with 225's. not quite out back but a 8.5 +25 would be perfect. not everyone wants to hack their fenders up.
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i wonder how many of u own wheels with good size and offsets, i remembred that the overpriced meshie bandwaggon went for 500 w/shitty tires sometimes, pay 200 more and u could have a mucb better size 17x8.5+25 is hardly anything to complain about and in my opinion it WONT sit ultra flush SO RUN SOME SPACERS. sheeshh
Yeah, going back to my original point...

Spend not even a extra hundred on top of what you pay for those ROTA wheels and you get 17x9 +20 FN01RC.

No spacers needed, clears is flush and looks good. And its FOUR LUG.
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Too many people here shouting "rice" and not seeing what is happening here........ Other companies making decent offsets.
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Everybody who keeps suggesting the fno1s for 4 lug are retarded. They look like absolute crap. Theres still a difference between 4 and 5 lug fno1s, the 4 lugs aren't concave, they basically look like a 17 by 7 with a spacer welded on. If i had to choose between fake ssrs and double fake 5 zigens (one fakeness for copying the forged version, and another fakeness for attempting to copy the 5 lug version for the 4 lug crowd) I would choose my cheap ass fake ssr wheels.
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:50 PM   #60
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some people also think the concave looks retarded. Its all about personal preference, which sometimes gets clouded by what people on this board will think when you buy a certain product
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