Zilvia Gun Thread

[Z_Spool]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Actually, he's not the only one. As a shooting enthusiast as well, talking to someone who calls an ar15 magazine a clip makes them sound stupid, and elementary to firearms. It's not that big of a deal, because they are probably new to it, and you have to learn sometime. But show a bit of respect to someone who is trying to teach you something. Consider yourself more enlightened and educated now.

[theicecreamdan]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Couple of teaser pics from my latest build, I'll post up next week when everything else comes in:

Help me out here, whats this?

[BlackZenkiS14]

That is a conversion block for the lower reciever that allows my AR to accept 9mm magazines and therefore shoot 9mm ammo. It's a 7" 9mm AR it's what I built because I couldn't afford an MP5

[jesse_s13]

Just finished cleaning (cosmoline) my Mosin Nagant.
Shot 100 rounds through it on Saturday with no Problems.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

That is a conversion block for the lower reciever that allows my AR to accept 9mm magazines and therefore shoot 9mm ammo. It's a 7" 9mm AR it's what I built because I couldn't afford an MP5

You can always build one of them too...

[BlackZenkiS14]

Originally Posted by S14DB

You can always build one of them too...

Have you looks into it? Evn building one, its 3.5k+. even more expensive to convert a USC into a legal UMP. Which was my other option. I wasn't going to buy some Chinese knockoff crap either, so I ended up with a nicer gun for a fraction of the price.

I'm not mad at all, the gun I build is premium quality, all billet machined everything, and now I can have a convertible lower that is registered as an SBR allowing me to essentially have as many uppers as I want, so I can have a 300 blackout upper with a 9" barrel, a .223 upper with an 11.5" barrel and so on. I'll get pics up soon, but its an awesome little gun. And cost me about 1/4 what an mp5 would have.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Have you looks into it? Evn building one, its 3.5k+. even more expensive to convert a USC into a legal UMP. Which was my other option. I wasn't going to buy some Chinese knockoff crap either, so I ended up with a nicer gun for a fraction of the price.

I'm not mad at all, the gun I build is premium quality, all billet machined everything, and now I can have a convertible lower that is registered as an SBR allowing me to essentially have as many uppers as I want, so I can have a 300 blackout upper with a 9" barrel, a .223 upper with an 11.5" barrel and so on. I'll get pics up soon, but its an awesome little gun. And cost me about 1/4 what an mp5 would have.

Sorry bro. AR platform sucks ass. (Personal Opinion)

However, I think for what you spent you could have had one of these bad-boys SBR.

Vector Arms V94 9mm MP5 Style Pistol Full Size



Vector has always done a bang up job on their Uzi's and never herd any complaints on their HK rifles. These are built off OEM parts kits. .233 costs half as much.

[theicecreamdan]

Picking one of these up next week.

[speedgod^s13]

Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

Picking one of these up next week.

Why does the picture, show a mag in the mag well, but also 2 clips on the side?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

Why does the picture, show a mag in the mag well, but also 2 clips on the side?

California thing? Welded mag? Or just to look cool for the add.

[kyles1988]

Looks like a stripper clip. Some surplus ammo comes that way when you buy it in bulk. Basically you push hard on the top round and they all load into the mag and the back thing (the "clip") just falls away.

[BlackZenkiS14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Sorry bro. AR platform sucks ass. (Personal Opinion)

However, I think for what you spent you could have had one of these bad-boys SBR.

Vector Arms V94 9mm MP5 Style Pistol Full Size



Vector has always done a bang up job on their Uzi's and never herd any complaints on their HK rifles. These are built off OEM parts kits. .233 costs half as much.

That would be cool, still not authentic H&K, but still again, TWICE the amount I paid to build mine. +200 for stamp, +200 for proper sliding stock, +80 dollar mags...before th crazy price jump last week, it'd end up being 2.5x what I have into mine, and not even on par with quality, and it will do the exact same thing.

Trust me, it's a cool gun, and I'd love to have an mp5 someday, but I really like my new ar build. You can hate it all you want, but that's why I built it, not you.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by kyles1988

Looks like a stripper clip. Some surplus ammo comes that way when you buy it in bulk. Basically you push hard on the top round and they all load into the mag and the back thing (the "clip") just falls away.

Won't work with AK mags - the ammo you are talking about is the Yugo brass stuff. Great ammunition, sold out I believe.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

That would be cool, still not authentic H&K

Yours is not even an authentic Colt

[BlackZenkiS14]

Your right, my gun sucks lol

Alright, here's my latest build, totally naked. no accessories. will add them in coming weeks. weaponlight, angled foregrip, and sights.

A 7" 9mm AR15 pistol, for now, Form1 goes out in January for SBR. Will be much nicer with a stock.

Black Rain Ordnance Billet machined upper and lower reciever
Spikes BAR 7" hand guard
ADCO Machine 7" barrel
Spikes pistol buffer tube
Colt 5.6 9mm buffer
DPMS lower parts kit
KNS anti-rotation pins
Magpul MOE grip
BCM Gunfighter Mod4 medium charging handle
Noveske KX-3
Crossfire Magwell 9mm adaptor block
CMMG 9mm ramped bolt cg
Metalform 20rd magazines

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Your right, my gun sucks lol

No, I just hate the attitude of "OMFG its not a HK/Colt/Saiga it must suck".b

[kyles1988]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

That would be cool, still not authentic H&K, but still again, TWICE the amount I paid to build mine. +200 for stamp, +200 for proper sliding stock, +80 dollar mags...before th crazy price jump last week, it'd end up being 2.5x what I have into mine, and not even on par with quality, and it will do the exact same thing.

Trust me, it's a cool gun, and I'd love to have an mp5 someday, but I really like my new ar build. You can hate it all you want, but that's why I built it, not you.

The CEMTE platform in general is pretty funky. Very cool, but still funky. All of the replica ones have the problem with the shrinking bolt gap or whatever too, so you never know you have a good example until its too late.

Originally Posted by Corbic

Won't work with AK mags - the ammo you are talking about is the Yugo brass stuff. Great ammunition, sold out I believe.

Ah, didn't realize it won't work with AK mags, never loaded one. My expeience was 5.56 ammo/AR mags.

Originally Posted by Corbic

Yours is not even an authentic Colt

I would never buy a colt. Overpriced mediocrity IMO.

[Eazy_tom]

Originally Posted by kyles1988

The CEMTE platform in general is pretty funky. Very cool, but still funky. All of the replica ones have the problem with the shrinking bolt gap or whatever too, so you never know you have a good example until its too late.



Ah, didn't realize it won't work with AK mags, never loaded one. My expeience was 5.56 ammo/AR mags.



I would never buy a colt. Overpriced mediocrity IMO.

Colt 6920 overpriced?
Whats the better option for under $1000?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by kyles1988

I would never buy a colt. Overpriced mediocrity IMO.

I could careless about the Colt name, just many in the AR world feel if its not Colt, then it's made from inferior mom & pop shop garbage. Just like how many in the AK world are now belly aching about having to use domestic barrels, as if domestic suppliers some how can't compete with third world countries in barrel manufacturing.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by kyles1988

The CEMTE platform in general is pretty funky. Very cool, but still funky. All of the replica ones have the problem with the shrinking bolt gap or whatever too, so you never know you have a good example until its too late.



Ah, didn't realize it won't work with AK mags, never loaded one. My expeience was 5.56 ammo/AR mags.



I would never buy a colt. Overpriced mediocrity IMO.

CETME based/spec stuff is always crap. HK-91(1) based is the way to go. PTR91, SAR-3/8.

My original point is you can buy the stampings an build you own for a lot less. Just like an AR.
http://www.robertrtg.com/mp5.html
www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-MP5-Parts-c5.htm

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by S14DB

CETME based/spec stuff is always crap. HK-91(1) based is the way to go. PTR91, SAR-3/8.

My original point is you can buy the stampings an build you own for a lot less. Just like an AR.
MP5K Receiver Flat, SP89 Receiver Flat, RTG Gun Parts
MP5K, MP5 PDW, SP89

Is it the CETME (Spanish) that is bad, or the fact that they are imported and assembled by Century who fucks up everything they touch?

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Is it the CETME (Spanish) that is bad, or the fact that they are imported and assembled by Century who fucks up everything they touch?

I would have to do more research on it. But, I have always been told to stay away from it and stick with H&K or US made parts. US parts mainly for compliance.
A lot of parts listings say "Not for CETME"

[1 88 U]

Assault Weapons - Issues - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein

What The Fuck, are they trying to make my Glock 23 illegal?

Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and

Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by 1 88 U

Assault Weapons - Issues - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein

What The Fuck, are they trying to make my Glock 23 illegal?

Feinstein is a fucking moron.

Summary of 2013 legislation

Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms;

Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;

Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:

Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;

Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;

Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

[BlackZenkiS14]

Never gonna happen as written.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Never gonna happen as written.

I continue to think that it's simply fucking exasperating that the Left can only see "hunting" or "murder" as the only legitimate reason for someone to own a firearm.

[BlackZenkiS14]

Yea, I don't doubt that some form of a ban on something may happen. But it won't be as over the top or ridiculous as it is has been written so far.

He'll, who knows it'll probably just blow over in a few months

[S14DB]

Willing to bet she won't make it back to DC before the 31st.

[georgeasorous]

Ar15 with a Ferfrans upper just finished today!!!
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1356677501.699128.jpg

[1 88 U]

Originally Posted by Corbic

I continue to think that it's simply fucking asavgsperating that the Left can only see "hunting" or "murder" as the only legitimate reason for someone to own a firearm.

Please call them anti-gunners. Myself and plenty of other progressive democrats respect and support 2A.