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Old 06-12-2015, 11:10 AM   #631
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They definitely looked exhausted, you could just see it on their faces during free throws etc. Delly gassed, getting cramps 2 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

I think Blatt should go deeper into the bench towards the end of the 1st & 2nd quarters so he can give LeBron or others alittle more rest. Marion hasnt played yet, give him 2 mins or so towards the end of a quarter or 2 to give others a rest. Same for Miller.
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They definitely looked exhausted, you could just see it on their faces during free throws etc. Delly gassed, getting cramps 2 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

I think Blatt should go deeper into the bench towards the end of the 1st & 2nd quarters so he can give LeBron or others alittle more rest. Marion hasnt played yet, give him 2 mins or so towards the end of a quarter or 2 to give others a rest. Same for Miller.

Yup.

How bad can a bench player be compared to an injured, cramped and exhausted starter?

This is why Thibs got fired. He never trusted his bench or rookies. When injuries forced him to play the bench, we got quality in the form of Butler, Snell and Mirotic.

Dolly wasn't a starter until Kyrie went out and look what he's done...
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Commentators also noted that Lebron needs a bigger break during the half so he can be fresh for the 4th.
The league agreed and have since changed halftime to an hour break.
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The modern NBA is full of pussies. Stop with this tired excuses, there's only 2-3 remaining games, suck it up and it'll be over soon.
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The modern NBA is full of pussies. Stop with this tired excuses, there's only 2-3 remaining games, suck it up and it'll be over soon.
THIS.

I run track professionally and we're training 6 days a week for 10 and half months a year.

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I run track professionally and we're training 6 days a week for 10 and half months a year.



Tired? Shut the hell up and play.

You don't think they are training, practicing and conditioning all year?

Please.


If anything the endless lists of injuries these guys suffer at only ~25 years old is a great indication of how hard they are working.
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You don't think they are training, practicing and conditioning all year?

Please.


If anything the endless lists of injuries these guys suffer at only ~25 years old is a great indication of how hard they are working.
Oh i know they're training. My point is, this is the NBA Finals. They shouldn't be bitching about being tired. Yeah your body hurts, but this is what you train for. Go out there and do it. No whining, no excuses. If i lose a race, i'm not gonna sit up there after the fact and be like "well i lost because i was tired and i didn't get to sleep as long as i would've liked and my cinnamon toast crunch got soggy at breakfast."

You train. You leave it all out there and compete. And you live with the results. I just hate whining and the current climate of the NBA is full of it and it's damn sickening.
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cavs head coach is a legit potato.
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poor lebron

his team is trash once again. and the coach has yet to have any play that isn't based around lebron. sucks that everyone is going to talk about his 2-6 finals record.
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THE DIFFERENCE IS SIMPLE: TEAM BALL...
Unfortunately for LeBron its quite true. Without other players really stepping up & the burden sitting on his shoulders because hes the "best player in the league" the Cav's wont win the series. LeBron with yet another triple double and it didnt matter.
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poor lebron

his team is trash once again. and the coach has yet to have any play that isn't based around lebron. sucks that everyone is going to talk about his 2-6 finals record.
Blatt is a complete idiot with managing minutes. Hes only rotating what, 7 players if that?
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Blatt is a complete idiot with managing minutes. Hes only rotating what, 7 players if that?

Reminds me of Thibs.

I guess he just doesn't trust the bench.

I've said it many times.

What's better an exhausted starter who is playing like shit and sucking wind....

Or a pumped up bench player desperate for minutes?
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Reminds me of Thibs.

I guess he just doesn't trust the bench.

I've said it many times.

What's better an exhausted starter who is playing like shit and sucking wind....

Or a pumped up bench player desperate for minutes?
I knew Blatt was an idiot when he had Kyrie out there for 40+ min knowing he had a bum knee. We all saw what ended up happening there.
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Been kicking this idea around for a while when watching the games.

I think Cleveland actually benefitted from not having Love or Kyrie. Now now don't go all apeshit on me, hear me out. Love is laughable on D and imo Kyrie isn't that great either. Would have been a much more offense oriented team. And I think we can all agree that GS would win easily in that kind of contest. Delly was dogging Curry for 2.5 games and made his life hell. He didn't have to worry about offense and just put all he had into D. Just my 2 cents. Feel free to rip me to shreds.
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Clippers traded for Stephenson. Wonder if thats gonna work out... He didnt so well in Charlotte
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I've already come to terms with the Warriors taking it all this year. I'll even go as far as to say that if they've got a shot at repeating if they can find a replacement for Bogut and/or Green.

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It's not lol...jk

But in all seriousness, I think the veteran presence combined with the relative success by the Clippers may sway his mindset. I can see him putting up near Indiana numbers when healthy.
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GSW closing out the series tonight.

bogut is a very good center lol

they are a full basketball team. kinda like the hawks of the west, except they have superstars.
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Yeah I think it's over tonight.

Anyone else feel that this whole season was kind of shitty?
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they are a full basketball team. kinda like the hawks of the west, except they have superstars.
And where did anybody say he wasn't? Just a few posts above/early in the series, I came to his defense.

The reason why I said they need to replace him is due to his injuries and injury prone nature. With big guys available this off season, they should look into finding a center that can stay on the floor and not in a suit on the bench. With the way the league's style is shifting, a defensive presence is all they really need.

Green is a FA this off season, he'd be a fool to leave but if they take it all this year, he may just want to ride the lifestyle and not prioritize winning first.

Didn't think I would have to explain my statement but I forgot some fans are very sensitive to the way things are said.

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Anyone else feel that this whole season was kind of shitty?
More than anything, the season turned a corner.

If the Warriors win, it's going to bring a new dynamic to the NBA which guys like D'Antoni have tried for so many years. I prefer watching post play and playing inside THEN out but as Kenny Smith once said "the league is a copy cat league" so with GS looking like sure winners, expect to see a demand for guards that can handle the ball, (spot up) shooters, and guys like Draymond Green.

Steve Kerr and his coaching staff should and deserve all of the credit for this year's run. It's looking like the age of the old big man is over. I hoped the Grizz would bring it back but the results speak for itself.
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And where did anybody say he wasn't? Just a few posts above/early in the series, I came to his defense.

The reason why I said they need to replace him is due to his injuries and injury prone nature. With big guys available this off season, they should look into finding a center that can stay on the floor and not in a suit on the bench. With the way the league's style is shifting, a defensive presence is all they really need.

Green is a FA this off season, he'd be a fool to leave but if they take it all this year, he may just want to ride the lifestyle and not prioritize winning first.

Didn't think I would have to explain my statement but I forgot some fans are very sensitive to the way things are said.



More than anything, the season turned a corner.

If the Warriors win, it's going to bring a new dynamic to the NBA which guys like D'Antoni have tried for so many years. I prefer watching post play and playing inside THEN out but as Kenny Smith once said "the league is a copy cat league" so with GS looking like sure winners, expect to see a demand for guards that can handle the ball, (spot up) shooters, and guys like Draymond Green.

Steve Kerr and his coaching staff should and deserve all of the credit for this year's run. It's looking like the age of the old big man is over. I hoped the Grizz would bring it back but the results speak for itself.
I agree adding Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan could bring that defensive presence. They wouldnt take much if anything from the offensive end.


I dont agree with all the credit going to the coaching staff...did they have an enormous impact? Of course. They added defense on top of a run and gun offense D'Antoni had minor success with.


But could this be possible without Curry? The ability to knock down a contested shot consistently makes a huge difference, a three at that...so could you make the same statement with no Curry? Would they be in this position without him?

Dont forget they lost twice because Steph wasnt making that shot.
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I've already come to terms with the Warriors taking it all this year. I'll even go as far as to say that if they've got a shot at repeating if they can find a replacement for Bogut and/or Green.

I wouldn't replace Green unless you're shifting him to SF and find a good sized athletic PF like a young Amare with defense (Anthony Davis would fit that role perfectly, but that's a pipe dream), but I do agree that Bogut could be upgraded.

I like the toughness Bogut brings (generally being an asshole, pushing, hitting, and slapping opposing teams players and not taking shit from anybody... must be an Australian thing) and he's at least competent on offense, but he is injury prone and I think a more athletic defensive center will help.

I'm also not sure if management would want to mess with a winning formula since Green and Bogut play well together defensively.

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I agree adding Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan could bring that defensive presence. They wouldnt take much if anything from the offensive end.
I was talking about these exact same thing to my coworker yesterday about these two guys. A more athletic defensive center should help.

Jordon would be nice, but he's kind of dumb as far as basketball IQ goes, he can't create his own shot, and I don't want other teams using hack-a-jordon. Tyson Chandler is a little smarter, but older.

I think Bogut is a little bit better offensively than both. He was trying to develop some sort of offensive game to add to his defense when he was with the Bucks.

I just don't know who could be obtained to replace what Bogut brings. I don't want a soft center... Maybe DeMarcus Cousins, but that's another pipe dream and I think he prefers the half court (George Karl wants to trade Cousins and get Ty Lawson back so he can get a running team in Sacramento).

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I dont agree with all the credit going to the coaching staff...did they have an enormous impact? Of course. They added defense on top of a run and gun offense D'Antoni had minor success with.
YES! The difference between D'Antoni's run and gun and Golden State is DEFENSE. I think Kerr, being a part of the Phoenix and Spurs organizations, learned from his experiences and combined a little bit of both organization's styles to refine the formula with GS. No way you can win with a D'Antoni or Don Nelson style of all offense/no defense run and gun.

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But could this be possible without Curry? The ability to knock down a contested shot consistently makes a huge difference, a three at that...so could you make the same statement with no Curry? Would they be in this position without him?
Possibly.. maybe this formula only works with Curry, but there's no other player like him.
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Well now I'm just interested in what the Bulls are going to do in the off season.
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Was hoping this went to 7. Now what am I going to do.
im still proud of myself for making that bet on GSW winning the WCF, back in Nov, 2014.

i am betting on the bulls winning ECF for the next season. their new head coach is honestly the missing piece of the pie. they have the full team, they just need the X factor.
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http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2...nt-offer-sheet

Very unlikely with the amount of money he would be leaving going to a different team...but itd be pretty awesome for us Laker fans.

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Well now I'm just interested in what the Bulls are going to do in the off season.
Well...Jimmy is probably not going to leave. The whole "I'm down for a short term deal with the Lakers" thing is just an agent move to get the organization on their heels.

Regardless of what the new coach is planning on implementing, I think the Bulls should bolster their bench.
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