450sx part 2

[future]

In theory it should be fine. I say go all out and full build. But if the money is not there we can't give it to you lol

[gsracer]

its not a monetary issue its more of a laziness issue these days lol.

[4-20sx]

Yea because we're all getting old now hahah

[future]

Do it then!!!!! But a full build would be pointless to only boost 12-14psi

[gsracer]

Originally Posted by 4-20sx

Yea because we're all getting old now hahah

lol aint that the truth.

it won't be a "full build" just arp rod bolts and new bearings.

[Hoffman5982]

Sucks to hear about the hg. I've been following this since the beginning and it has always been one of my favorite s14 builds. It's good to see that you're finally going to put those heads to good use lol

[gsracer]

So decided to go through with the bottom end pulled the tranny and put it on the stand.

Twin plate love...





pulled the timing cover and the motor looks brand new inside.... Not bad for 126,000 miles. Starting to think I'm wasting my time but whatever its half disassembled. I bet the bearings look new as well. Le sigh...

[gsracer]

snapped a pic into the oil pan, you can't make it out that well in the picture but you can kinda tell how the oil pick up has been smashed into the bottom of the pan for the last two years lol....

[4-20sx]

Lol so you decided to build the bottom end. Good luck bud. I still got my vh sitting on the stand.

[gsracer]

Originally Posted by 4-20sx

Lol so you decided to build the bottom end. Good luck bud. I still got my vh sitting on the stand.

well i have all the parts already

clevite main / rod / and thrust bearings.
ARP Rod bolts
Hastings rings
and obviously the heads and cams already assembled with super tech valve springs ad titanium retainers.

Dropping the bottom end off at the machine shop on monday so it shouldn't be too long, I'm thinking about a week at the machine shop then another week to assemble and put it back in. But you know how that is.

[4-20sx]

Oh yes I know how that goes lol. I still need to install my oem intake manifold but I just moved so everything is everywhere and my engine is still at my moms house... Blah.

Good luck though. I'll def keep A tab on your thread Jerry. Def your an inspiration to the vh community haha

[gsracer]

lol thanks man.

[gsracer]

so pulled the pan...

Heres a nice shot of my smashed into oil pan pick up...... I must stress this has been like this for two years and never lost not even 1 psi of oil pressure thank god.






Nice and clean bottom end...





So pulled one rod bearing from each of the throws. And as suspected this was a big waste of time. All the bearings are clean and have minimal wear. I should have just slapped the heads back on and been done with it. But whatever what can i do.

[future]

Better safe then sorry

[GSXRJJordan]

[gsracer]

that you did sir.... that you did.

[GSXRJJordan]

I actually did the exact same thing with my LS6 earlier this year. Wanted to tear it down to get a look at everything, didn't have an excuse to change anything since everything looked perfect. Buttoned it back up with the new heads and did burnouts.

[SicBastard]

"do NOT pull wrenches towards your face!!!!!!!!!"

"Buttoned it back up with the new heads and did burnouts."

Good stuff... Keep it comin.

[gsracer]

so pulled the rest of it apart. Headed to the machine shop tomorrow morning at 6am.

On to the pics

Go the valve covers back from the coaters. Sparkle silver. Should stand out in the engine bay now.






Took all the pistons out.




Went thru the spares of the spares lol for spare parts.




6 bolt main for the pain in the arse disassembly




Empty crankcase.






Now it wasn't dirty by any stretch but i sprayed some degreaser on it so the machine shop guys don't get there hands so dirty.




Some nissan love.




Nice and clean.




Bolted everything back finger tight for the machine shop tomorrow.




ARP sr20det rod bolts direct fit and clevite mains rods and thrust bearings ready to go in.

[future]

Nice, hope all goes well

[GSXRJJordan]

Love the pace.

Usually this is one of those things that goes something like:
"going to tear the engine down"
... wait 3 months
"got some parts back from the machine shop"
... wait a month
"started putting it back together"
...

[future]

Yeah what ^^^ said. You move quick, you were talking about going lsX. Then the next day you had the engine pulled and half apart

[gsracer]

thanks I'm pretty obsessive so that helps.

We shall see how long the machine shop takes, they are very reputable and they told me 3-5 business days. I have yet to have any shop local to me ever keep a time table. Thats why I'm driving an 1.5 hr for this one. Time will tell.

I want to have it running by the end of the month.

[onepuff]

"Now it wasn't dirty by any stretch but i sprayed some degreaser on it so the machine shop guys don't get there hands so dirty."

At least you tore it down for a good reason LOL.
Great car. One of the builds that has gotten me off my lazy ass to get mine on the road again.

[4-20sx]

Disassembly is easy. Reassembly is alittle more complicated. Love the progress jerry. You def move fast

[boyou2]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Love the pace.

Usually this is one of those things that goes something like:
"going to tear the engine down"
... wait 3 months
"got some parts back from the machine shop"
... wait a month
"started putting it back together"
...

mostly, motivation AND budget dictate a build thread

[gsracer]

Dropped it off at total engine concepts. They do all the work for Titan motorsports and where highly recommended. After talking with them the told me I should go a couple thou looser than the fsm recommends as its not a drag car and drifting/road race engines especially aluminum. Tend to run warmer and they loosen up with heat.

I'm not sure how I feel about that as the fsm dictated some pretty right clearances for "loose".

We did hit a snag though. The rings are gonna take a week or two to get. As everything for this motor. It's not on the shelf.

I'll try to find other things to occupy my time. I wouldn't want to disappoint with the updates. Lol.

[future]

You do a good job at keeping your thread updated

[jbballa9876]

Are you checking the bearing clearances and grinding the piston rings yourself or letting the machine shop do that? Im going to have to go through this entire thread to see your goals. Im currently running vh45 but thinking of switching to the Toyota 2uz for the iron block with lots of boost in mind.

[gsracer]

I decided to let them assemble the short block, i will do final assembly. Also the pistons will be calico coated on the skirts to match the factory coating.

Stock clearances are as follows

Main
.0005 - .0012
Limit .0020

Rods
.0008 - .0018
Limit .0026

Being that he recommended the loose side of factory .0012 mains and .0018 rods seems a little tight to me compared to what i ran on SR's for high revving. But maybe an aluminum v8 expands like a mofo. I don't know. What do you guys think.

Goals are a solid 500-550 whp @ 8000 rpm.