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t66-240 · 10-10-2018, 11:08 PM

Has anyone put serious power through the 5th and 6th gears? I'm going to be running 1/2 mile and the speeds I want to hit will require hear 6th gear redline runs. My car should be making around 750RWHP. I'm worried about the strength of the top gears.

Any actual experience would be appreciated.

TheRealSy90 · 10-12-2018, 01:10 PM

They're WAY stronger than sr20 gears.

gmr · 10-24-2018, 04:54 AM

Hi guys

Thanks for all the input and advice in this thread. Ended up going with a new 370Z, Mazworx bellhousing and crossmember, and Serial9 shifter for my S15.

Gearbox bolts up high with zero hammering or cutting of the chassis. Am stoked.

slider2828 · 10-24-2018, 02:17 PM

Very nice! Great pics too!!!

Kylepaschke · 10-31-2018, 06:49 PM

@gmr that is awesome!

gmr · 11-18-2018, 04:32 PM

Thanks guys cheers.

Picked it up this weekend. First impressions:

- Serial 009 shifter is really good, very direct and engages well. It is very short. I've got a standard size shift knob and am going to get a longer one to extend the throw at my hand.
- The ratios of the CD009 box are great with 4.11 final for street driving. It's very punchy and gets up and goes. 100km/hr (about 60mph) the car sits at 2600rpm. This setup would be too short for the track where you'd be changing gears too often.
- The CD009 box is noisy. I bought a new 370Z box from Nissan and it chatters, grinds, gurgles lol. In fairness everything is solid mounted and I've got a twin plate clutch which makes as much noise. Reading 350z/370z forums they have the same issue once the dual mass flywheel is replaced. Their cars have a lot of insulation around the tunnel so I'm going to install some on my car too. In a track car it wouldn't be an issue, but it's a bit noisy for the street.
- I put new coilovers in the car at the same time, and with the ride height set I have about 80mm clearance from the ground. My car isn't low or sacked by any means. I'm going to make up a bash shield as the lip of the bellhousing could get caught.

All in all I'm very happy with the swap and would happily recommend the Mazworx and Serial009 setup.

Cheers

slider2828 · 11-25-2018, 09:30 PM

Quick question. I have a maxworx kit sr cd009. Which starter did you guys use? It seems like the bolts on the start is smaller than the bolts in the transmission.

Any help?

RalliartRsX · 11-25-2018, 09:55 PM

Should be stock SR starter.

slider2828 · 11-25-2018, 09:57 PM

Yeah you are right. I was threading it the wrong way. I should have thread it through the bell housing into the starter vs the other way. LOL.

RalliartRsX · 12-05-2018, 10:59 AM

For the folks running the HR or JK40/41 tranny and Mazworx bell housing kit, where does the tranny adapter ring install?? About to upgrade from my early CD001 to a HR 2008 gearbox and will need to swap things over (and buy the ring from Mazworx)

Thanks

speedgod^s13 · 12-31-2018, 05:25 PM

How does the gearing work with the z33 trans? In my case, I have an ATS 1.5 way, with stock gearing. If I were to go with the z33 trans, would that affect anything on the rear end, or would I have to change anything to do with my gearing? Or just slap the trans in and go?

LoSt180 · 12-31-2018, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

How does the gearing work with the z33 trans? In my case, I have an ATS 1.5 way, with stock gearing. If I were to go with the z33 trans, would that affect anything on the rear end, or would I have to change anything to do with my gearing? Or just slap the trans in and go?

The over-drive gear isn't much taller than the 5 speed. .79 on the Z33 vs .84 on s14. So don't expect low cruising rpm just because you have an extra gear. The difference is in the 2-3-4 gears.

Can plug the ratios into a gear speed calculator and see if you'll need to change up the final drive. Or drive it and make a decision later.

roninwon · 12-31-2018, 05:30 PM

I have the stock 4.08 gearing and I don’t like it at freeway speeds. I’m going to swap my gears over the the s15 3.692 for some better rpms at those speeds.

speedgod^s13 · 12-31-2018, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roninwon

I have the stock 4.08 gearing and I don’t like it at freeway speeds. I’m going to swap my gears over the the s15 3.692 for some better rpms at those speeds.

What are your rpm at 60mph?

roninwon · 12-31-2018, 08:16 PM

Not sure cause speedo isn’t set up yet but I’m hitting about 3800 rpm at freeway speeds

RalliartRsX · 01-26-2019, 06:44 PM

Question for anyone running the Mazworx kit. Need some help with this issue (will send Mazworx an email on Monday)

My setup
Comp Clutch White Bunny
Sr20VET
Mazworx Bell housing
Comp Clutch TOB and SR sleeve

Two setups:
1) Z33 fork, Z33 pivot ball, SR TOB sleeve, Comp Clutch TOB. The issue is, when I go to install, the TOB and clutch fork comes into contact with the PP before the tranny is fully seated. Essentially, the clutch fork is fully against the front part of the opening, which means the Fork/TOB sits too far forward on the center housing

2) If I use the Z33 pivot ball (shorter pivot ball), but SR fork, SR TOB sleeve and Comp Clutch TOB, the tranny will completely sit flush with engine and the clutch fork sits perfectly center in the opening (which makes no sense). However 2 issues

a) I have no idea what the distance between the TOB to the PP should be (no mention of it in the FSM)
b) Clutch Fork specs (what distance should it be in the opening, distance for the clutch arm to move, etc). No specs on Clutch fork in FSM either

It almost seems like the bell housing boss used to mount the pivot ball, is too tall.

Yellow4g63 · 01-26-2019, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Question for anyone running the Mazworx kit. Need some help with this issue (will send Mazworx an email on Monday)

My setup
Comp Clutch White Bunny
Sr20VET
Mazworx Bell housing
Comp Clutch TOB and SR sleeve

Two setups:
1) Z33 fork, Z33 pivot ball, SR TOB sleeve, Comp Clutch TOB. The issue is, when I go to install, the TOB and clutch fork comes into contact with the PP before the tranny is fully seated. Essentially, the clutch fork is fully against the front part of the opening, which means the Fork/TOB sits too far forward on the center housing

2) If I use the Z33 pivot ball (shorter pivot ball), but SR fork, SR TOB sleeve and Comp Clutch TOB, the tranny will completely sit flush with engine and the clutch fork sits perfectly center in the opening (which makes no sense). However 2 issues

a) I have no idea what the distance between the TOB to the PP should be (no mention of it in the FSM)
b) Clutch Fork specs (what distance should it be in the opening, distance for the clutch arm to move, etc). No specs on Clutch fork in FSM either

It almost seems like the bell housing boss used to mount the pivot ball, is too tall.

I thought you were supposed to use the Sr clutch stuff with the mazworxs kit.

RalliartRsX · 01-26-2019, 10:12 PM

That is exactly what I did. SR pivot, clutch fork and TOB/sleeve. Same issue of not having enough play in the system to allow for the gearbox to be mounted onto the engine. Basically the TOB is right up against the clutch fingers with about an 1/8" gap from tranny to engine.

So far, the only thing that "seems" to work is Z33 pivot ball, SR cluch fork, SR TOB/sleeve

TheRealSy90 · 01-27-2019, 07:05 AM

The Mazworx bellhousing is designed to be used with the all of the sr20 clutch components. Don't use any of the z33 stuff. It's possible that the COMP components are different enough from oem to cause the issue. Try all OEM sr20 components.

RalliartRsX · 01-27-2019, 08:40 AM

As I mentioned in the post prior to yours, I used all SR components and the issue is still present.

The only combination which seemingly works is the Z33 pivot ball, SR TOB/sleeve/fork.

But yeah, I am wondering if the comp clutch is the issue

I think I am going to just send it and see how it goes

godrifttoday · 01-27-2019, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

As I mentioned in the post prior to yours, I used all SR components and the issue is still present.

The only combination which seemingly works is the Z33 pivot ball, SR TOB/sleeve/fork.

But yeah, I am wondering if the comp clutch is the issue

I think I am going to just send it and see how it goes

Ka24de and sr basically same transmissions , I posted a couple pages back on what you need exactly , down to the smallest bolt

RalliartRsX · 01-27-2019, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

Ka24de and sr basically same transmissions , I posted a couple pages back on what you need exactly , down to the smallest bolt

Unfortunately, a taller carrier will exacerbate the issue I am experiencing by pulling the TOB 4mm closer to the clutch PP than where it's at currently........which is it hits the PP prior to the gearbox being fully seated.

I am going to take a height measurement of the pivot ball and use that as a basis for the proper carrier bearing height

slider2828 · 01-28-2019, 12:43 AM

Ralliart, how much clearance are you supposed to have from PP fingers to TOB? I am running a ORC dual plate and have no reference.

TheRealSy90 · 01-29-2019, 07:46 AM

I used an OsGiken twin disc with my Mazworx setup. I used the specific carrier sleeve that OsGiken recommends for the sr20 with their twin disc clutch, I believe it was shorter than the oem sleeve. Everything worked perfectly.

slider2828 · 01-29-2019, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

I used an OsGiken twin disc with my Mazworx setup. I used the specific carrier sleeve that OsGiken recommends for the sr20 with their twin disc clutch, I believe it was shorter than the oem sleeve. Everything worked perfectly.

Cool... Yeah its a shorty Koyo TOB.... You can get it a Z1 motorsports. Cool.... Thanks!

TheRealSy90 · 01-30-2019, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

Cool... Yeah its a shorty Koyo TOB.... You can get it a Z1 motorsports. Cool.... Thanks!

I meant the bearing sleeve itself. I had to use a shorter bearing sleeve, along with the smaller diameter OsGiken tob.

slider2828 · 01-31-2019, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

I meant the bearing sleeve itself. I had to use a shorter bearing sleeve, along with the smaller diameter OsGiken tob.

Oh Sorry misread. I have an ORC, not OSGiken....

Ogura only change is just the TOB and not the carrier, but I used the carrier that was supplied anyways.... But yeah a little different

TheRealSy90 · 02-01-2019, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

Oh Sorry misread. I have an ORC, not OSGiken....

Ogura only change is just the TOB and not the carrier, but I used the carrier that was supplied anyways.... But yeah a little different

Yeah, for some reason the recommended carrier for the OsGiken twin isn't supplied by OsGiken anymore, nor available I believe. However there is an OEM Nissan carrier that is the same dimension as the one they used to offer. I believe it was from a Nissan truck of some sort. Don't have the specific part numbers on hand anymore but I found everything I needed with some online sleuthing, and cross referencing of discontinued part numbers to stuff available now.

RalliartRsX · 02-03-2019, 09:12 AM

For anyone who cares about my saga.......

SR pivot ball (long)
SR shift fork
SR TOB and TOB sleeve (24mm)

godrifttoday · 02-03-2019, 09:47 AM

It’s very easy to calculate, first you need a bigger carrier thing where the bearing goes to. They cost like 25 bucks ,

10-24-2018, 02:17 PM	#4
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Very nice! Great pics too!!! __________________ Turn and Burn!

11-25-2018, 09:30 PM	#7
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Quick question. I have a maxworx kit sr cd009. Which starter did you guys use? It seems like the bolts on the start is smaller than the bolts in the transmission. Any help? __________________ Turn and Burn!

11-25-2018, 09:57 PM	#9
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Yeah you are right. I was threading it the wrong way. I should have thread it through the bell housing into the starter vs the other way. LOL. __________________ Turn and Burn!

12-31-2018, 05:30 PM	#13
roninwon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nampa, ID Age: 37 Posts: 557 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I have the stock 4.08 gearing and I don’t like it at freeway speeds. I’m going to swap my gears over the the s15 3.692 for some better rpms at those speeds. __________________

12-31-2018, 08:16 PM	#15
roninwon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nampa, ID Age: 37 Posts: 557 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Not sure cause speedo isn’t set up yet but I’m hitting about 3800 rpm at freeway speeds __________________

10-10-2018, 11:08 PM	#1
t66-240 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Phoenix Posts: 35 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Has anyone put serious power through the 5th and 6th gears? I'm going to be running 1/2 mile and the speeds I want to hit will require hear 6th gear redline runs. My car should be making around 750RWHP. I'm worried about the strength of the top gears. Any actual experience would be appreciated.

10-24-2018, 04:54 AM	#3
gmr Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hi guys Thanks for all the input and advice in this thread. Ended up going with a new 370Z, Mazworx bellhousing and crossmember, and Serial9 shifter for my S15. Gearbox bolts up high with zero hammering or cutting of the chassis. Am stoked.

10-31-2018, 06:49 PM	#5
Kylepaschke Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	@gmr that is awesome!

11-18-2018, 04:32 PM	#6
gmr Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks guys cheers. Picked it up this weekend. First impressions: - Serial 009 shifter is really good, very direct and engages well. It is very short. I've got a standard size shift knob and am going to get a longer one to extend the throw at my hand. - The ratios of the CD009 box are great with 4.11 final for street driving. It's very punchy and gets up and goes. 100km/hr (about 60mph) the car sits at 2600rpm. This setup would be too short for the track where you'd be changing gears too often. - The CD009 box is noisy. I bought a new 370Z box from Nissan and it chatters, grinds, gurgles lol. In fairness everything is solid mounted and I've got a twin plate clutch which makes as much noise. Reading 350z/370z forums they have the same issue once the dual mass flywheel is replaced. Their cars have a lot of insulation around the tunnel so I'm going to install some on my car too. In a track car it wouldn't be an issue, but it's a bit noisy for the street. - I put new coilovers in the car at the same time, and with the ride height set I have about 80mm clearance from the ground. My car isn't low or sacked by any means. I'm going to make up a bash shield as the lip of the bellhousing could get caught. All in all I'm very happy with the swap and would happily recommend the Mazworx and Serial009 setup. Cheers

11-25-2018, 09:55 PM	#8
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Should be stock SR starter.

12-05-2018, 10:59 AM	#10
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	For the folks running the HR or JK40/41 tranny and Mazworx bell housing kit, where does the tranny adapter ring install?? About to upgrade from my early CD001 to a HR 2008 gearbox and will need to swap things over (and buy the ring from Mazworx) Thanks

12-31-2018, 05:25 PM	#11
speedgod^s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Age: 44 Posts: 3,188 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	How does the gearing work with the z33 trans? In my case, I have an ATS 1.5 way, with stock gearing. If I were to go with the z33 trans, would that affect anything on the rear end, or would I have to change anything to do with my gearing? Or just slap the trans in and go?

01-26-2019, 06:44 PM	#16
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Question for anyone running the Mazworx kit. Need some help with this issue (will send Mazworx an email on Monday) My setup Comp Clutch White Bunny Sr20VET Mazworx Bell housing Comp Clutch TOB and SR sleeve Two setups: 1) Z33 fork, Z33 pivot ball, SR TOB sleeve, Comp Clutch TOB. The issue is, when I go to install, the TOB and clutch fork comes into contact with the PP before the tranny is fully seated. Essentially, the clutch fork is fully against the front part of the opening, which means the Fork/TOB sits too far forward on the center housing 2) If I use the Z33 pivot ball (shorter pivot ball), but SR fork, SR TOB sleeve and Comp Clutch TOB, the tranny will completely sit flush with engine and the clutch fork sits perfectly center in the opening (which makes no sense). However 2 issues a) I have no idea what the distance between the TOB to the PP should be (no mention of it in the FSM) b) Clutch Fork specs (what distance should it be in the opening, distance for the clutch arm to move, etc). No specs on Clutch fork in FSM either It almost seems like the bell housing boss used to mount the pivot ball, is too tall.

01-26-2019, 10:12 PM	#18
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	That is exactly what I did. SR pivot, clutch fork and TOB/sleeve. Same issue of not having enough play in the system to allow for the gearbox to be mounted onto the engine. Basically the TOB is right up against the clutch fingers with about an 1/8" gap from tranny to engine. So far, the only thing that "seems" to work is Z33 pivot ball, SR cluch fork, SR TOB/sleeve

01-27-2019, 08:40 AM	#20
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	As I mentioned in the post prior to yours, I used all SR components and the issue is still present. The only combination which seemingly works is the Z33 pivot ball, SR TOB/sleeve/fork. But yeah, I am wondering if the comp clutch is the issue I think I am going to just send it and see how it goes

01-28-2019, 12:43 AM	#23
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Ralliart, how much clearance are you supposed to have from PP fingers to TOB? I am running a ORC dual plate and have no reference. __________________ Turn and Burn!

02-03-2019, 09:12 AM	#29
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	For anyone who cares about my saga....... SR pivot ball (long) SR shift fork SR TOB and TOB sleeve (24mm)

02-03-2019, 09:47 AM	#30
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 40 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	It’s very easy to calculate, first you need a bigger carrier thing where the bearing goes to. They cost like 25 bucks , __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?