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Old 09-24-2006, 05:09 PM   #61
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haha its all good.. still the fact remains tho that he got sponserd without skills.. weither we aggree or not.. you guys are right this is America case close =D

sorry if I come on too strong.. i dont have the free time to even consider events in my life since since i work and school like 24/7 on weekends, so i wont diss anyone on the forums for thier driving, guess people see a nice looking s13 and expect all the 240sx in teh world should be ubber tyte drifting since all the 240s where built for that purpose *that seems like the message i get from alot of you guys*. but when someone becomes a media face for a sport, id expect them to be good since they are up there in the spot light.
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Danica Patrick became the face for IRL..........need we say more about her 'success stories'
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Danica Patrick became the face for IRL..........need we say more about her 'success stories'
I thought Sam Hornish Jr. was the face of IRL. She still ranked 9th this season which is a lot better than the driver at hand...
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hm, he used to be so 'hardcore supra'. i'm surprised he's not out there drifting his mkiv w/o sponsorship.

...and i didn't realize he was the one driving the mopar viper...
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I thought Sam Hornish Jr. was the face of IRL. She still ranked 9th this season which is a lot better than the driver at hand...
Look on the cover of IndyCar magazine. Look at all the ads, goto a race and see who's face you see EVERYWHERE. It's not about ability in America, it's about recognition. It's about marketability.
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You can all argue. Dont Hate on him for do something he loves too do. Hes been working with cars for a long time now. He built a supra with 911hp. He not necessarly begging to do stuff as a fad. hes serious. There is a good article in Drifting Magazine on this whole issue. You should all have a read.
He didn't build anything he paid a shop to build it. Er I mean his Dad paid a shop to build it.
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Brooke Hogan is attractive, she just tries too hard.

Anyways, Nick Hogan is deffinately not the most amazing drifter in the world, but you have to appreciate his attitude. He's probably the most positive person i've ever seen. If he gets some balls and commits a little harder, he will go a lot farther in the sport.
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Danica Patrick became the face for IRL..........need we say more about her 'success stories'
Danica also worked her way up through the ranks...she wasn't just handed the keys to an indy car. Does her marketaility have to do with her being sponsored by a big team, of course, but she at least has proven her ability. Alhough she drove predominitely road courses before so I had expected her to go to Champ but it didnt happen.
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Danica also worked her way up through the ranks...she wasn't just handed the keys to an indy car. Does her marketaility have to do with her being sponsored by a big team, of course, but she at least has proven her ability. Alhough she drove predominitely road courses before so I had expected her to go to Champ but it didnt happen.
I understand WHY they hump her to death over the fucking guy that WON the Indy 500. I'm just saying it's THAT attitude/reasoning that makes American motorsports fail in my book, everytime.
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Anybody remember the Benihana VIPER doing a wallcheck on the very first d1 at irwindale. AND it was driven by Tarzan yamada if i remember correctly.

Besides, Nick is just a kid.
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Anybody remember the Benihana VIPER doing a wallcheck on the very first d1 at irwindale. AND it was driven by Tarzan yamada if i remember correctly.

Besides, Nick is just a kid.

please....

Those are very two diferent crashes and very diferent situations

Tarzan's crash: The car was brand new and wasn't dialed in correctly, and he was in drift when he crashed

Hogans crash: The car is dialed in and at the time was ranked #1 in FD, and he was in drift, the steering was full degree to the right(facing the wall) and the wheels were just locked.....


My mom could have avoided that.

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Tarzans crash was more then likely he was excited to perform in front of the american crowd.. and if i recall, he wasnt competing, just doing exhibition.
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OK. i have never commented about NicK Hogan drifting on the forums, but today i can. Today i worked on and drove a viper. Everything felt great. CLutch, steering, etc. If you know what you are doing, its not hard to drive. The only thing hard for me was getting used to teh 345/30/19 tires. I now have no respect for Nick Hogan as a driver. A good driver can adapt to different cars. That's what makes him better than a regular driver on teh street. From teh crash videos, i can clearly see, he does not have much experince going fast AND taking turns. Before i drove the viper, i used to say, it was a hard car to drive and hogan is still getting used to it. Now after driving a viper, i have changed my mind.

p.s. teh viper is a badass car. everything except for teh crappy rolling stock- 19x13 wheel. 345/30/19 tire
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I spoke with Andy and Richard of Formula D, they both say Nick Hogan actually knows what he's doing regardless of all the negative talk people tend to blurt.
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I spoke with Andy and Richard of Formula D, they both say Nick Hogan actually knows what he's doing regardless of all the negative talk people tend to blurt.
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Seriously who cares anymore?

Nicks an alright guy, he'd probably come off as cooler to most people if he didn't have to live his life in front of a camera, but that's not his fault.

Sure he drives a factory backed Viper, and he got his ride because of his marketibility, but he loves drifting, and he's actually out there driving, I didn't see most of you at Pro-Am, enjoying what Altamont's track had to offer.

He's not yet a threat to any of the really good amatuers, he placed top 8, but was beaten by some mostly stock S13's, a supra and a hachi, but still managed to do better than a large field of competiters, myself in my bone-stock S13 included.
As with everyone there's room for improvement, and it's not like we haven't seen sponsorships like this before. The driver realizes they have to sink or swim, and if they suck they're dropped, if they do good they have a shot at being pro. And Nick seems pretty determined to get an FD license.

All it means is the rest of us have to try harder, and just show the best of our abilities. 600hp is not a cure-all.

Due to the media based culture that's the US, celebrities are always going to get preferential treatment, it's something we have to live with.
Sometimes they're cool sometimes they're not.

But the fact is that Nick is out there driving.
What are you going to do about it?
Go out there and drive against him and see how you stack up against him and his monster viper, or hide behind a computer screen?
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What are you going to do about it?
Go out there and drive against him and see how you stack up against him and his monster viper, or hide behind a computer screen?
Eh just continue drifting tiny events and sucking ass.

I don't hate him, I hate the whole American-marketability over driving ability thing. I know, doesn't matter, doesn't change anything, it just makes the sport very unprofessional to me.
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But the fact is that Nick is out there driving.
What are you going to do about it?
Go out there and drive against him and see how you stack up against him and his monster viper, or hide behind a computer screen?

Agreed. It is one thing to go crash and give up. It's another thing to brush it off and keep going. I chalk up his 'biff' to pressure that was never felt before. Everyone feels it. I first realized he was actually serious when he showed up to the 2005 Tampa Supra meet in a S14 instead of his supra. Give the kid a break.. Like Yuri said atleast he is not a hardparking e-drifter.

This is a dead subject and everyone needs to stop swinging on his nuts.
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I saw him try out for formula d qualifier a few months ago or so at irwindale, and he sucks.. or maybe it was the fear of goin into the wall which resualted in him doing poorly. but i havent followed him recently. Has he improved? I know hes like all the rage in drifting coverage in mags and etc.. but seriously lol

Think Mopar even sees that he sucks? wonder if they will keep him next year
you dont even drift, how are you gonna say he sucks? stfu fag.
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you dont even drift, how are you gonna say he sucks? stfu fag.

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I'll say it....I'M JEALOUS! I wish i got free tires and free track time. But for now he would probably make the unsponsored guys like us look good, which is O.K. by me. And i have come to realize, once you grasp the basic concept of drifting, the rest is pretty easy. Its not THAT hard. I'm not saying i'm awesome, but with all this time and money this kid has got on his hands he should greatly improve here in the near future. Till then, I'll still be jealous.
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hes not to bad in this vid
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don't you guys have better things to do than sit here and STILL be talking about nick hogan?

he crashed the viper a bunch of times. that's our yay moment. now they're going to spend more money on more practice and more cars and eventually he's going to catch up with everyone else because he won't have to save money for this and that and wait for track days to come around. blah blah blah blah blah.
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hogan knows bests is fucking hilarious.

hulk should be driving the car.
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heres the remix version of "about us" - brooke hogan f. e40 fonzarelli

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i think she was just on the cover of FHM as well, i saw the mag at the airport but didnt get a chance to check the pics
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