Who's getting a XBox 360 day one?

[SimpleS14]

I wouldn't be surprised if GT5 does include damage. The CPU power from this unit is going to be insane (for what is currently available). Xbox controller sucks, even the smaller version (IMO). I'll wait for PS3...but maybe a year after the release.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

I wouldn't be surprised if GT5 does include damage. The CPU power from this unit is going to be insane (for what is currently available). Xbox controller sucks, even the smaller version (IMO). I'll wait for PS3...but maybe a year after the release.

The creator has commited to damage. He has said that the damage in games right now is not realiztic enough for his game and the systems have not been able to do it right, so that's why there hasn't been damage yet.

[SimpleSexy180]

so i heard playstations break/mess up/ act stupid a lot.


hahah that sucks!

i havent known a single person with a messed up xbox unless they tried modding it.

[240SeXy!]

mod'd 8 xbox's not 1 became figity or messed up.

[TheSquidd]

Modded 2 PS2's, lost them both within 5 months, one melted, one had the DVD drive fail. on my third. I stopped modding them and got a HDD ^_^.


Modded one XBOX, the laser failed. On my second one.






You guys do know that nothing about the PS3 is final yet right.... the whole E3 showing was a bunch of prerendered foolishness and the console hasn't even been finalized yet...

Meanwhile the 360 is done, being made, and will hit stores before Xmas.... Hmm... It's like comparing Apples to .... apples that don't exist, only in kids dream worlds.

So while I am a huge PS2 fan, I still have absoulutely no opinion on the PS3 other than that Sony is a bunch of jackoffs for doing their "show a bunch of fake footage of games and a bunch of specs that don't even exist" thing at E3.

Microsoft didn't do too much better in their E3 showing, I mean come on, what girl is going to make clothing for Tony Hawk blah blah ? But I do give them credit because they had working systems PLAYING at E3, not just videos.

I'll buy both. And screw the revolution.

[zaneithan]

Originally Posted by downshift180

so i heard playstations break/mess up/ act stupid a lot.


hahah that sucks!

i havent known a single person with a messed up xbox unless they tried modding it.

well ill be the first to say that my xbox was messed up, it froze up every 10 minutes on just about every game i owned. I had to take it in and spend money on a new one. I also have owned a playstation 2 for about 3 times as long as the xbox and it never gave me a single problem.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by zaneithan

well ill be the first to say that my xbox was messed up, it froze up every 10 minutes on just about every game i owned. I had to take it in and spend money on a new one. I also have owned a playstation 2 for about 3 times as long as the xbox and it never gave me a single problem.

That is funny cause every last person I know with an XBox has problems with it. My PS2 on the other hand that I bought on day one, which are supposed to be prone to problems has ran like a top since day one.

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

The creator has commited to damage. He has said that the damage in games right now is not realiztic enough for his game and the systems have not been able to do it right, so that's why there hasn't been damage yet.

That would make sense, reading this does get me hyped up to see what he (the creator) has in store for GT5.

It's funny how Microsoft can have the Xbox 360 ready in such a short timeframe...yet Windows Vista is STILL under construction.

Anyways, I thought XBox 360 was more like "Xbox v1.5" and another version was bound to come out after PS3. I believe they are releasing the console to have an upper hand in the market...but I'm not sure if it will actually happen. Most people in Japan are not hyped for the Xbox 360, nor are some of the companies.

[95Blue240sx]

Served Served Served!

[jOeHaCk98]

iEATrice just ate squidd

[WILDACEX187]

forza on xbl is awesome (except when people make u spin out in the middle of a turn and call it a "love tap" BS). gt is an awesome game but the multiplayer aspect of it is boring. i guess im more of a social person but i dont like to play with.....i mean bymyself.

[anthony240]

sorry it took too long...and i guess the moment is gone haha.

[exitspeed]

What iEatRice said is correct. What Sony showed at E3 was not "fake fottage" at all. The onl tgame they admitted that was prerendered was Killzone, THAT'S IT. Every other game was in real time.

Oh and if you've seen any of the GT Vision video's, keep in mind that is GT4 engine running on PS3 hardware. The PS3 IS, FACT, more powerful then the 360. The damn thing has 7 processors!

[Jcb890]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

What iEatRice said is correct. What Sony showed at E3 was not "fake fottage" at all. The onl tgame they admitted that was prerendered was Killzone, THAT'S IT. Every other game was in real time.

Oh and if you've seen any of the GT Vision video's, keep in mind that is GT4 engine running on PS3 hardware. The PS3 IS, FACT, more powerful then the 360. The damn thing has 7 processors!

i like how people throw out a shitload of facts about the power of the machines. it doesnt matter how powerful the thing isif the games dont look good or if it doesnt work good or w/e. also, are any PS3's made? i dont think so, so therefore all this shit about the specs of it isn't concrete evidence.

come talk to me when the PS3 is done and there is some REAL game footage, not that bullshit real-time rendering shit, which isn't the graphics of ANY games EVER. like in the old PS2 games that had AMAZING videos and video graphics and then the graphics in the game were much shittier...

[TheSquidd]

Originally Posted by Jcb890

i like how people throw out a shitload of facts about the power of the machines. it doesnt matter how powerful the thing isif the games dont look good or if it doesnt work good or w/e. also, are any PS3's made? i dont think so, so therefore all this shit about the specs of it isn't concrete evidence.

come talk to me when the PS3 is done and there is some REAL game footage, not that bullshit real-time rendering shit, which isn't the graphics of ANY games EVER. like in the old PS2 games that had AMAZING videos and video graphics and then the graphics in the game were much shittier...

EX ACT LEE.

Sony did this same BS with PS2. Look up the unveiling of that system, the graphics they displayed in 'real time' there were nothing near what the PS2 could ever do.

Post all the lameass .gifs you want. The fact still remains, the PS3 doesn't exist, not a single person here knows anything about it.

I'll be the first to say the PS3 event was impressive, but I just can't trust Sony after all the other BS they pulled on past systems.

[CleanS14]

Originally Posted by TheSquidd

The fact still remains, the PS3 doesn't exist, not a single person here knows anything about it.

How do you know this...???

[CleanS14]

Originally Posted by Jcb890

i like how people throw out a shitload of facts about the power of the machines. it doesnt matter how powerful the thing isif the games dont look good or if it doesnt work good or w/e. also, are any PS3's made? i dont think so, so therefore all this shit about the specs of it isn't concrete evidence.

come talk to me when the PS3 is done and there is some REAL game footage, not that bullshit real-time rendering shit, which isn't the graphics of ANY games EVER. like in the old PS2 games that had AMAZING videos and video graphics and then the graphics in the game were much shittier...

This interests me too... since I know none of the people on this thread are graphics/graphics HW experts. And I agree about the final gold outcome being not as good as dev demo's and realtime demo play... BUT I do know what I am talking about when I make statements and the footage you viewed online from the debut was infact REAL in-game footage whether or not you choose to believe it. One thing that users don't understand is that up until now the HW could not do what the SW called it to do. PS3 has a graphics architecture that is a full generation ahead of the crap that you'll find in the xbox360... this means better rendering in games and the ability for game developers to use HWAPI's not available to them on other consoles. There will and may be optimizations for PS3 games on that console. Also if you didn't notice... consoles are moving to become more like a PC and if you are a gamer and know anything about games/PC's... you know that game developers are excited about being able to finally develop realistic looking games playable on the current HW.

REAL game footage was already seen at E3... the xbox360 guys were the fakers. So they have product avaiable to buy... do you not realize that their system is far behind PS3 and may be trying to just make some revenue before their market share gets taken by the release of PS3. Or how 'bout Sony might just be waiting to release their product after xbox360 to get pricepoint information etc... it's all about strategy and money making and in the end the PS attach rate coupled with its advanced specs, timely release and price point will show you that it did in fact exist when you thought it didn't.

[Romeyo07]

Multi-million dollar companies don't put out "fake" videos. At least ethical companies for the most part.

[smellslikecurry]

i work at gamestop...ill as the damn sony rep...he comes by all the time and then ill pwn all of you muahhaha...ok maybe not

[TheSquidd]

iEATrice: My humble apoligies, I was unaware of your current occupation ^_^. Had I known your profession I might have taken your statements more to heart.

Sorry, just jumped the gun because Sony did such a thing before.

[exitspeed]

I hope we can dig this thread next year when PS3 comes out. It's gonna be so funny to see these guys with their foot in their mouths. I'm still buying a 360 just cause I want a new system. But I do think it may fall victim to the PS3 and share the same fate as the beloved Dreamcast. It seems that the same type of events are happening as they did then. Even down to the PS3 having the next gen BlueRay disc's. That was ultimatly what put Dreamcast under. Not having a DVD player. People in Japan were buying up PS2's like gangbuster's cause it had a DVD player. I see the same thing happening in Japan with the 360 and PS3. If you look at this closely it's very close to the same.

[CleanS14]

Agree'd both will exist in tandem... MS has too much momentum at this point... the only thing that will kill the product is MS pulling it off the shelves because of lack of profit (won't happen). There will always be a competitor...

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by iEATrice

Agree'd both will exist in tandem... MS has too much momentum at this point... the only thing that will kill the product is MS pulling it off the shelves because of lack of profit (won't happen). There will always be a competitor...

You don't think that if they are not successful in the Japanese parket AGAIn they will back out? I'm still up in the air about this too I guess. But I don't think they can keep producing councils if they don't ever get the success over seas. There's more money over there to be made then in America.

[TheSquidd]

Hah, It's Microsoft, they don't neeeed money. I get the feeling they'll keep trying until they dominate that market too (probably never.).

[CleanS14]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

You don't think that if they are not successful in the Japanese parket AGAIn they will back out? I'm still up in the air about this too I guess. But I don't think they can keep producing councils if they don't ever get the success over seas. There's more money over there to be made then in America.

Yeah they're basically wrapping $100 bill around every system sold... kinda sad... but then it's a marketing tactic and a chance to get a sliver of the $ out there that Sony grabs from the rest... a sliver to them is a lifetime of wealth to everyone on this forum LOL!!!

[Agent_S13]

Wow, seems to be a lot of die-hards game fanatics. I'm keen on watching this unfold and thought I'd throw my pennies into the mix

1) Everyone who's fond of the X-Box 360 hasn't gone into detail of which system they're getting? The $299 bare-bones or the $399 "deluxe" one?

If I remember what I read in the article, the $399 system comes w/ the 20 GB HD (no HD in barebones version, which is odd cuz the original comes with a 10 GB HD) and also a free year? (maybe 3 months) of X-Box Live Gold

There's X-Box Live Silver, but that's free to everyone who owns an X-Box, to buy random crap, but no playing X-Box games online.

2) Going further into that X-Box Live thing... that's the only reason most people are into X-Box. I have both and I wouldn't mind playing X-Box Live, its got great support, many people are using/playing it so finding a game is not hard. Everyone's using the same hardware (unlike different PC's) and the only issue is bandwidth so it does kind of even the playing field here.

I've always been a fan of the Playstation and was really excited that they added the HDD and Broadband Adapter, but Sony's lack of infrastructure in creating an online world never materialized. MS jumped on that w/ XB Live and now they dominate the market.

Sony has plans for an online community, a free one at that too --- but I can't see it coming close to the details/features XB Live has included. I think the only reason MS is selling their system to Japan is because of tradition. I think MS already knows they make the money selling the XB Live service in the US -- its greatest market (and if they get a few more subscribers in Asia... more money to them)

As for games, MS has picked up a lot of developers to produce games for them. I think the way business is now, a company can't bet on a certain developer to take the lead (aka EA/Square/Konami etc during the last generation) and hope that their "exclusives" sell enough for them to make a profit too. Now game companies realize that they have to produce for all systems to actually break even/make a profit --- game development costs keep rising (some are pricier than movies) and selling to all system owners increases their audience and sales numbers.

Lastly, I thought I'd ask this question:

What's the next Gen DVD Format going to be? Both Sony and MS have taken their respective, conflicting sides and I fear that this might be a "betamax" situation that can affect Sony's future.

I for one, don't care as long as 1 format is agreed on. Both have their merits but it seems like this can tear people apart not only for backwards compatibility but also in the future production of DVD movies and their use in certain DVD players.

Its such a waste but all factors I put above (and more if people want to add them) will definitely play a part in the future leader of the console wars.

and just for Kazuo --- Yes, the Revolution will contain a feature for downloadable content... basically their entire NES/SNES library of games perfectly emulated on the Revolution for a fee per d/l probably. (What that is, I dunno... but it makes me wonder if they can appeal to kids and adults looking for nostalgia?)

Wow, damn long post... think I've thrown in more than my 2 cents.

-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by iEATrice

Agree'd both will exist in tandem... MS has too much momentum at this point... the only thing that will kill the product is MS pulling it off the shelves because of lack of profit (won't happen). There will always be a competitor...

With $36 billion in cash reserves I don't think MS would back out at any time. They are like Toyota in Formula 1.... they do it for marketing purposes and such, not to make money.

Toyota in F1 has not produced consistent competitive results, yet they still toss money at it like it was nothing. Oh, and Toyota has $60 billion in cash. w00t.

-alex

[smellslikecurry]

all gamestops are sold out till next year...same with eb ii believe...time to go wait it out at best buy

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by smellslikecurry

all gamestops are sold out till next year...same with eb ii believe...time to go wait it out at best buy

That's my plan B. I have one reserved at Gamestop but they said because there were so many reserves before me I might not get on on the first day, but they guarenteed I'll get one before X-Mas. They said they'll know the week before. If I cn't get one there, were camping out at BestBuy like I did with PS2! It was a blast last time and this time should be no exception.

[mav1178]

this is just too funny...

in the mean time, for all you "doubters" just keep checking nvidia stock between now and next year, and then come back and tell me whether or not the PS3 exists.

=)

-alex