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Seraphim38 · 06-14-2013, 04:36 PM

Just wondering what people think the limit is on stock axles?

I am at 460rwhp on pump gas, Z32 trans, one piece driveline, KAAZ 1.5 LSD in an S14 diff, all SPL suspension, 275/40/17 Nitto NT05s.

Would I be at a big risk of breaking an axle if I hit the drag strip? That's probably the weakest link in the drivetrain I think, other than the softer 2nd and 4th gear synchros in my early Z32 trans.

sr20s13abel · 06-14-2013, 04:49 PM

On a drag radial u be aight..

jr_ss · 06-14-2013, 06:36 PM

I've ran at the strip on DR's pulling 1.9's(first time on DR's) and didn't have an issue. 2step and unpreloaded drivetrain could wreak havoc though.

Stumped · 06-14-2013, 07:15 PM

I would be impressed if you could break an axle with that big of a wheel.

jr_ss · 06-14-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumped

I would be impressed if you could break an axle with that big of a wheel.

Wheel hop is the killer of all things stock...

ForeignMuscle · 06-21-2013, 09:52 PM

I would use bias slicks over dr's. they soak up way more shock than you would think.

mr_eh · 06-28-2013, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphim38

Just wondering what people think the limit is on stock axles?

I am at 460rwhp on pump gas, Z32 trans, one piece driveline, KAAZ 1.5 LSD in an S14 diff, all SPL suspension, 275/40/17 Nitto NT05s.

Would I be at a big risk of breaking an axle if I hit the drag strip? That's probably the weakest link in the drivetrain I think, other than the softer 2nd and 4th gear synchros in my early Z32 trans.

at 315whp on a break in tune, with a z32 trans, os giken 1.5 differential, every suspension/bushing you can think of I snapped an axle letting the clutch out at 5500.... had the synchros replaced while that was fixed too. also was on 275/40/17 bfg radials

I'm at 501whp now and will /not/ launch the car because I don't think I'll be getting home without a tow

sr20s13abel · 07-08-2013, 07:26 PM

my new upgrade...

turbo-2ns · 07-08-2013, 07:28 PM

wow didnt expect that, is it clutchless, whats the specs on it

sr20s13abel · 07-08-2013, 07:31 PM

MY SECOND TIME DRIVING THE CAR WITH NEW TRANNY..

sr20s13abel · 07-08-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo-2ns

wow didnt expect that, is it clutchless, whats the specs on it

I only use clutch for 1st gear.

turbo-2ns · 07-08-2013, 07:37 PM

whats the specs on the trans

sr20s13abel · 07-08-2013, 07:41 PM

am not familiar with names or specs? I know its a jerico 4 speed transmission straight cut or some shit like that.

turbo-2ns · 07-08-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sr20s13abel

am not familiar with names or specs? I know its a jerico 4 speed transmission straight cut or some shit like that.

That pretty much sums it up, I was wondering if it was a Jerico or libertys, did u order it, or was it second hand, if you don't mind me asking what did it set you back$$

sr20s13abel · 07-08-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo-2ns

That pretty much sums it up, I was wondering if it was a Jerico or libertys, did u order it, or was it second hand, if you don't mind me asking what did it set you back$$

I got it from a friend..it was previously in an 8 sec 510 here in LA. Tranny had 12 passes in it. It has a browell sfi approved bellhousing a mark Williams yoke a long shifter and mcleod racing slave cylinder.. got the whole setup with custom clutch for 4.5k

slow92 · 07-09-2013, 12:52 PM

why does it look like it keeps popping out of gear during your pull?

turbo-2ns · 07-09-2013, 01:05 PM

there is no syncro or spring in a clutchless engagment trans, when the load is lost it comes out of gear

sr20s13abel · 07-09-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo-2ns

there is no syncro or spring in a clutchless engagment trans, when the load is lost it comes out of gear

Yes sir . Ur very right. Thats how it works.. this is my second time driving the car with new tranny the moment the car was going sideways I wanted to play with gas and get back on it as I used to but this tranny won't let me..

sr20s13abel · 07-09-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by slow92

why does it look like it keeps popping out of gear during your pull?

Its the way it works.. am not sure if by holding the shifter I can prevent from going into neutral I havent tried. . Am sure with slicks it will stick to the ground.. I was driving around on 275/50r15 MT. Et streets radials.

turbo-2ns · 07-09-2013, 02:31 PM

what ecu is the car on if traction control an option?

sr20s13abel · 07-09-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo-2ns

what ecu is the car on if traction control an option?

Aem ems.. traction control?? U mean the bitch button? Lol nah.. ill get a fat slick and that will fix my problem. Or ill tub it

ford 9inch.. fuck it

turbo-2ns · 07-09-2013, 06:21 PM

fastest stock body cars in the world use tractiin control,there is nothing bitch about it

sr20s13abel · 07-10-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo-2ns

fastest stock body cars in the world use tractiin control,there is nothing bitch about it

Am not planning to stay stock.

neither to set a record.

just experimenting. Just trying to have fun u know. . Besides that traction control sounds expensive

turbo-2ns · 07-10-2013, 09:54 AM

hou can do it with the aem to a point, add a front wheel abs sensor and use that as your speed , that way the boost dont ramp up with tire spin it help a lot

in a more expensive system you can run front and rear wheel speed sensors and have the ecu or traction box pull boost and timing at certin slip rates

sr20s13abel · 07-10-2013, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo-2ns

hou can do it with the aem to a point, add a front wheel abs sensor and use that as your speed , that way the boost dont ramp up with tire spin it help a lot

in a more expensive system you can run front and rear wheel speed sensors and have the ecu or traction box pull boost and timing at certin slip rates

Cool.. good info.

Mikester · 07-11-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sr20s13abel

Besides that traction control sounds expensive

Says the guy who paid $4.5K for a tranny & clutch

Seraphim38 · 07-11-2013, 11:15 AM

out of curiosity, what does anyone use for driving on the street, other than drag radials? Being in Washington state, daily driving, a drag radial isn't going to do well in the rain. However, I am sick of driving with no traction when boost hits. It seems that 315/35/17 Nitto NT05 is going to be the best of all worlds. I wouldn't mind going to 335/30/18 but they are 3x the cost of a 315/35/17 setup if you include the costs for both wheels and tires.

mr_eh · 07-11-2013, 11:17 AM

if I wasn't using radials I'd be using either falken 615s or bfg kdws

Seraphim38 · 07-11-2013, 12:19 PM

I had falken 615s and they wouldn't hook for nothing. I still have them on the front and they are nearly as bad as the crappy Sumitomos. KDWs are twice the cost of Nittos and not twice the grip. I am not poor, but I don't want to throw away money on tires if there isn't an upside to the spend.

Mikester · 07-11-2013, 01:35 PM

^^At your power level, there is really no 'end all be all' tire for you dude... Either route you go, you will be sacrificing either traction in the dry or traction in the wet. I'm assuming your wheels are 10J? If so, maybe go down to a 265 or 275/40/17 all-weather tire. I daily drove on 275/40/17 drag radials in Okinawa & hated it in the rain w/only 350-ish at the wheels at the time. I still run them on my 240 with much more power at the wheels; but I have the luxury of not having to DD it.

If you do happen to find a good tire that hooks in the dry and holds well in the rain in boost, please let us know.

GL!

06-14-2013, 04:36 PM	#991
Seraphim38 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 810 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Just wondering what people think the limit is on stock axles? I am at 460rwhp on pump gas, Z32 trans, one piece driveline, KAAZ 1.5 LSD in an S14 diff, all SPL suspension, 275/40/17 Nitto NT05s. Would I be at a big risk of breaking an axle if I hit the drag strip? That's probably the weakest link in the drivetrain I think, other than the softer 2nd and 4th gear synchros in my early Z32 trans. __________________ Mazworks \| HKS \| Greddy \| T4 GTX3076r \| Full Race \| Tial \| SPL \| Feal

06-14-2013, 06:36 PM	#993
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,413 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	I've ran at the strip on DR's pulling 1.9's(first time on DR's) and didn't have an issue. 2step and unpreloaded drivetrain could wreak havoc though. __________________ My SR20VET Does your VTC gear rattle in your S14/15 SR? PM me.

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sr20s13abel Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sr20 my new upgrade...

07-09-2013, 12:52 PM	#1006
slow92 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NV Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	why does it look like it keeps popping out of gear during your pull? __________________ Sr22 in the works

07-11-2013, 11:15 AM	#1017
Seraphim38 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 810 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	out of curiosity, what does anyone use for driving on the street, other than drag radials? Being in Washington state, daily driving, a drag radial isn't going to do well in the rain. However, I am sick of driving with no traction when boost hits. It seems that 315/35/17 Nitto NT05 is going to be the best of all worlds. I wouldn't mind going to 335/30/18 but they are 3x the cost of a 315/35/17 setup if you include the costs for both wheels and tires. __________________ Mazworks \| HKS \| Greddy \| T4 GTX3076r \| Full Race \| Tial \| SPL \| Feal

06-14-2013, 04:49 PM	#992
sr20s13abel Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On a drag radial u be aight..

06-14-2013, 07:15 PM	#994
Stumped Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 45 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would be impressed if you could break an axle with that big of a wheel.

06-21-2013, 09:52 PM	#996
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I would use bias slicks over dr's. they soak up way more shock than you would think.

07-08-2013, 07:28 PM	#999
turbo-2ns Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: dfw texas Age: 36 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wow didnt expect that, is it clutchless, whats the specs on it

07-08-2013, 07:31 PM	#1000
sr20s13abel Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	MY SECOND TIME DRIVING THE CAR WITH NEW TRANNY..

07-08-2013, 07:37 PM	#1002
turbo-2ns Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: dfw texas Age: 36 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	whats the specs on the trans

07-08-2013, 07:41 PM	#1003
sr20s13abel Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	am not familiar with names or specs? I know its a jerico 4 speed transmission straight cut or some shit like that.

07-09-2013, 01:05 PM	#1007
turbo-2ns Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: dfw texas Age: 36 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	there is no syncro or spring in a clutchless engagment trans, when the load is lost it comes out of gear

07-09-2013, 02:31 PM	#1010
turbo-2ns Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: dfw texas Age: 36 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	what ecu is the car on if traction control an option?

07-09-2013, 06:21 PM	#1012
turbo-2ns Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: dfw texas Age: 36 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	fastest stock body cars in the world use tractiin control,there is nothing bitch about it

07-10-2013, 09:54 AM	#1014
turbo-2ns Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: dfw texas Age: 36 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	hou can do it with the aem to a point, add a front wheel abs sensor and use that as your speed , that way the boost dont ramp up with tire spin it help a lot in a more expensive system you can run front and rear wheel speed sensors and have the ecu or traction box pull boost and timing at certin slip rates

07-11-2013, 11:17 AM	#1018
mr_eh Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Staten Island / Central Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	if I wasn't using radials I'd be using either falken 615s or bfg kdws __________________ My 96 S14 \| 501whp SOLD

07-11-2013, 12:19 PM	#1019
Seraphim38 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 810 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I had falken 615s and they wouldn't hook for nothing. I still have them on the front and they are nearly as bad as the crappy Sumitomos. KDWs are twice the cost of Nittos and not twice the grip. I am not poor, but I don't want to throw away money on tires if there isn't an upside to the spend. __________________ Mazworks \| HKS \| Greddy \| T4 GTX3076r \| Full Race \| Tial \| SPL \| Feal

07-11-2013, 01:35 PM	#1020
Mikester Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kathleen, GA Age: 52 Posts: 1,956 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^At your power level, there is really no 'end all be all' tire for you dude... Either route you go, you will be sacrificing either traction in the dry or traction in the wet. I'm assuming your wheels are 10J? If so, maybe go down to a 265 or 275/40/17 all-weather tire. I daily drove on 275/40/17 drag radials in Okinawa & hated it in the rain w/only 350-ish at the wheels at the time. I still run them on my 240 with much more power at the wheels; but I have the luxury of not having to DD it. If you do happen to find a good tire that hooks in the dry and holds well in the rain in boost, please let us know. GL! __________________