The Future Automotive Thread

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Well the FASTEST sport compact car ever tested on The Ring is the Coballt SS Turbo that ran a 8:22. To put it into perspective, that is faster then the Nissan Skyline GT-R R32, BMW M3 E46, Audi S5, Lotus Exige S, Porsche Cayman S, BMW 335i E92 Coupe, 350z, C5 Vette, and a Honda S2000.

The next actual sport compact car on the list is the Mazda MS3, then R32 VW.

Like I've said before if Nissan can work even half it's magic of the GTR on the new 240, I'd expect to find the new 240 around the 8:35-8:30 lap times putting it faster then the 350z and 993 Carrrera. I mean we're talking about pure bragging rights for Nissan if they can accomplish this. Especially if they can get some the 370 in the low 8's (8 flat would be a nice number).

I think the evo IX does it in 8:11.

It's not a confirmed time, but I think it's a Best motoring time.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

im gonna have to argue the release date on it with yah...nissan and toyota have long had fueds on who can have cars out first...i seriously think nissan will get the jump on toyota by AT LEAST 6-9 months in releasing the 2010 200sx...im pretty sure it will be out early 2010 (at the latest)...both toyota/subaru and nissan are gunning hardkore for the market hyundai has already gotten the jump on them with...and as soon as the 370z hits show rooms...nissans performance gap is going to get HUGE from the no entry level RWD coupe space that the 350z once KIND OF occupied (POS Sentra SE-R > Altima Coupe > ..... NOTHING!!!! ..... > 370z > GTR)

if nissan doesnt have something in show rooms well before the new toybaru...theyre going to get stung pretty hard by 2 major companies getting the jump on them

I believe a while back a Nissan person said they wanted to beat Toyota to the market with their car.

[exitspeed]

Another rendering by 7-Tune of the Toyota/SUbby RWD car. One is ULTRA unrealistic and the other is too realistic and ugly.





beeracing s14's post reminded me about this.

[Akiros]

i think it would look good.. slammed on some te37's or something concave... or maybe 18/19 stagger wheels with a big lip.. but what wouldnt? haha.

[exitspeed]

The second rendering looks a lot like an FTO.

[WILDACEX187]

second rendering minus the lights in the middle. dont see the need for them since theres fog lights and the headlights have 2 projectors

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by WILDACEX187

second rendering minus the lights in the middle. dont see the need for them since theres fog lights and the headlights have 2 projectors

Yea, they were trying to pull some Lexus cue's in there. Not successfully either.

[S13shaka]

you heard it hear first so do not forget, anywhere from 3-5 years from now the 390z will appear.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by S13shaka

you heard it hear first so do not forget, anywhere from 3-5 years from now the 390z will appear.

Uhhhh, it's going to be more then 3-5 years for the next Z to come out or for them to up the displacement of the VQ again. More like 6 years.

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Uhhhh, it's going to be more then 3-5 years for the next Z to come out or for them to up the displacement of the VQ again. More like 6 years.

i bet it will be the 370Z TT (twin turbo) before upping the size of the motor

[Slow SR20]

This car's release has made all my plans to purchase a genesis coupe i4 turbo come to a hault!

[dorkidori_s13]

i swear...the end of november cant get here fast enough...get the damn announcement/display of the 370z out of the way already so nissan can OFFICIALLY announce this damn car already and put all of our minds at ease

[Slow SR20]

For me, the deal breaker is two things. Too heavy or non turbo.

I was all excited about the genesis coupe turbo (I think it is ugly though) until I saw how heavy it is. That turbo engine is useless in stock form trying to lug around 3200+ lbs.

The exterior design is not all that important to me (although it does matter) but the lower the belt line the happier I will be. I like the most recent sketch in orange that was posted on here. I was soo let down by hyundai, Toyotabaru will not have a turbo. If nissan lets me down i'll be forced to deal will a used solstice turbo.

[bloodie73]

2009 Nissan 370Z - First Photos - Car News/Latest News & Reviews/Car Shopping/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver

I was just reading up on the new 370z and at the bottom....

Meanwhile, Nissan officials say they still are interested in a more entry-level, small, front-wheel-drive sports car for the brand, but not immediately. The automaker does not want to take the spotlight away from the launch of the new Z and is dealing with a full portfolio right now, says Larry Dominique, Nissan North America vice president in charge of product planning and strategy. But something that takes cues from the Nissan Urge concept—it would compete with the Mazda MX-5 Miata, Pontiac Solstice, and Saturn Sky—is expected in a few years.

Boo!!!

Let's hope not...

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by bloodie73

2009 Nissan 370Z - First Photos - Car News/Latest News & Reviews/Car Shopping/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver

I was just reading up on the new 370z and at the bottom....



Boo.... :[

See, they keep talking about the Urge guys. it's going to have that kinda shape with the new company headlights.

[dorkidori_s13]

u know...after being in the whole "spy a car" scene for a few years now (with following the GTR, 370z and 2010 200sx)...im absolutely disgusted when i read articles in road & track and car & driver...their articles are always poorly written and researched....the amount of disinformation they give is unbelievable...and the amount of blatant copying they do from other peoples articles is horrid

i would take what is said at the end of article with a huge grain of salt...i seriously doubt road and crap has any clue what theyre talking about given how far their heads are up their asses (i mean...look at how they talked shit about the GTR and the amount of disinformation they gave on that)

again...my predictions are as follows

2009 will be the year the 200sx/silvia replacement is unveiled...2007 was the year of the GTR...2008 was the year of the 370z...and nissan has no choice but to release a new entry level RWD, 4cyl, turbo sports coupe to the market because if they dont...come 2 years from january when toyota/subaru release the toybaru...nissan is gonna get its ass kicked...the 370z is 100% no longer a entry level sports coupe...the sentra SE-R = FAILTOWN...the altima coupe = ok...but not quite a sports coupe

i wanna punch road and crap in the face at the moment (FUK BEES!!!!)

[SexPanda]

Meanwhile, Nissan officials say they still are interested in a more entry-level, small, front-wheel-drive sports car for the brand, but not immediately. The automaker does not want to take the spotlight away from the launch of the new Z and is dealing with a full portfolio right now, says Larry Dominique, Nissan North America vice president in charge of product planning and strategy. But something that takes cues from the Nissan Urge concept—it would compete with the Mazda MX-5 Miata, Pontiac Solstice, and Saturn Sky—is expected in a few years.

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[ONYX S-13]

^ Took the words right out of my mouth but mine would have been typed in 100 sized font.

[exitspeed]

It's not going to FWD. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ALTIMA COUPE. it makes NO sense AT ALL. NONE. PERIOD.

Let me add. The new SX with either be RWD OR IT WON'T EXIST.

[slidingsky]

Why would they make a FWD "sports car" to compete with 3 RWD cars.... They're not. This is essentially just one of the worst kept secrets that nissan has going, why else would they keep it on the shelf until after the 370z launch. They are not about to release two new RWD models in the same year.

[dorkidori_s13]

well in all honesty...theyve had a pattern for the last few years...like ive said time and time again...2007 was the year of the GTR...you didnt hear a PEEP about the release of the G37 and 370z...2008 was the year of the 370z/G37...you havent heard a peep about the GTR V-SPEC or the S16...next year has to garner in the full release of info and pictures of the forthcoming 2010 200sx/silvia and maybe even the GTR V-Spec (just to make all the ZR1 corvette guys pee their pants because nissan can still beat that car with minimal effort...and a much smaller motor)

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

It's not going to FWD. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ALTIMA COUPE. it makes NO sense AT ALL. NONE. PERIOD.

Let me add. The new SX with either be RWD OR IT WON'T EXIST.

They could revive the Sentra SE-R coupe (remember the B13?)...or the NX2000

If the Civic coupe (Si) can be sold along the Accord coupe, I can't see Nissan having a problem doing the same thing.

[WILDACEX187]

oh u have a point simples14

[Neejay]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

They could revive the Sentra SE-R coupe (remember the B13?)...or the NX2000

If the Civic coupe (Si) can be sold along the Accord coupe, I can't see Nissan having a problem doing the same thing.

hmm...good point.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

They could revive the Sentra SE-R coupe (remember the B13?)...or the NX2000

If the Civic coupe (Si) can be sold along the Accord coupe, I can't see Nissan having a problem doing the same thing.

Originally Posted by WILDACEX187

oh u have a point simples14

Originally Posted by Neejay

hmm...good point.

Simple does have a point, but Nissan themselves has said they are working on a RWD coupe on a shortened FM platform with cues taken from the Urge.

Nissan is not Acura/Honda, they know the power of RWD.

My arguement against a Sentra Coupe is still the Altima Coupe. There's no way they could sell a Sentra coupe with the altima still on the market. And there's no way they would get rid of the Altima Coupe. The Altima is Nissans best selling car globally and having a coupe and sedan make it that much more of a competitor to the Accord and Camry/Solora.

You guys have to think about where things slot in with Nissan and somewhat Infiniti's lineup. The fact they moved the Z upmarket, just shows how Nissan has been strategically working on their whole line-up of sports cars. it just makes incredible sense.

I don't expect the SX to looks anything like the Altima coupe. The Altima's have their own styling. I urge (no pun intended) you to LOOK at the Urge concept if you want a good idea of what the SX will look like. It looks nothing like their current FWD cars or RWD cars for that matter. This will allow them to sell the car as something completely different then the Altima coupe that will be in a similar price range.

The SX will probably not be available w/ 260hp. My estimate is it'll be somewhere around 220. Yea, that's it. I know I'm repeating myself from previous posts but I feel like I need to reiterate the fact that it's PROBABLY going to marketed as a fuel sipping sports car. I wouldn't be surprised if the base model was 180-200hp and get 35 mpg. Again this is another way for them to separate it from the rest of their vehicles.

Now, I obviously don't work in the industry and nor do I have any secret connections, but what I do have is a very good insight on how things work in the industry. A changing industry. I've also payed obsessively close attention to any hints Nissan has thrown us about the SX's future. I feel very strongly that my prediction is the way to go for Nissan and it makes all too much sense to me. But only time will tell how close I am to the final product.

[dorkidori_s13]

heheheehheheh....EXITSPEED FOR 08!!!!

[Dutchmalmiss]

Mel, I haven't seen you make a bad prediction or assumption with the SX so far, so keep it comin. As for 2010 being the year of the new SX and V-spec, add the Cube to that list, because it's going to be GOOD.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

Mel, I haven't seen you make a bad prediction or assumption with the SX so far, so keep it comin. As for 2010 being the year of the new SX and V-spec, add the Cube to that list, because it's going to be GOOD.

The SX and Cube (especially the EV version) can be the 1-2 punch Nissan needs to boost the public's perception of Nissan being a fuel efficient car company.

On top of that they will have the most complete line-up of sporty/sports car in the planet. Period.

[Slow SR20]

I just want to hear more murmers from Nissan execs or see the car lapping the ring, silence is killing me!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Slow SR20

I just want to hear more murmers from Nissan execs or see the car lapping the ring, silence is killing me!

Tell me about it.