350 sbc V8 powered S13

[s13 k3nrock]

Originally Posted by b18civicdrift

does anyone know were i can buy a light up shift knob at?

autozone =]

[Pank]

Originally Posted by sldbyuramg

LS1 is much better and a must in SD, if your gonna go V8. it is alot closer to being legal than an SB 350 and gas prices are STUPID!

LS1 is also more expensive, parts are more expensive, harder to wire up, less plentiful.

Plus, there are 49 other states, swaps arent super illegal in NC

[codyace]

Originally Posted by sldbyuramg

LS1 is much better and a must in SD, if your gonna go V8. it is alot closer to being legal than an SB 350 and gas prices are STUPID!

You realize with the proper gearing a v8 gets equal MPG if not better than some SR's get right?

Little ass car, torquey ass motor, and if using a T56, a .5 double OD? Say hellow to 25 to 30mpg cruising.

[finalimport]

Nice, whats done to the 350?

[blu808]

My 600 hp Turbo charged ls1 FC3s gets 29 mpg on the freeway :-)

[axiomatik]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Troof. But yeah, Gen1 motors are cheapppppp. Cheapest way to 400hp, for sure.

Oh, since no one said it yet... Sportmax wheels?!? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

says the guy with rotas.......

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by KansaiDrifter

Oh, no I just figured that others might like to see it there too, if you actually do research, you'll find a few on there are done up nicely. Mine's on there too.

haha trust me, I don't need you help, just offering mine....

Your car would be the exception rather than the rule. You're one of the few who have running swaps. There are a couple of people I would take advice from. The rest of them is like the blind leading the blind. Do you agree?

Is yours daily driveable btw?

As for help, I was talking to the OP and his friend. I would not go to that forum asking for help because no one has his exact setup on there. All you'll get are putdowns because they like LS-series more than carb.



I don't care about power. I want 400 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels. What's cheaper?

[codyace]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

I don't care about power. I want 400 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels. What's cheaper?

Nothing. American muscle takes that crown forever.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by codyace

Nothing. American muscle takes that crown forever.

I mean between GenI and LS-series. What's cheaper to get 400 ft-lbs?

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by blu808

My 600 hp Turbo charged ls1 FC3s gets 29 mpg on the freeway :-)

I have .63 5th and 3.133 rear end. Nowhere close to 29 mpg though Damn carb

[codyace]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

I mean between GenI and LS-series. What's cheaper to get 400 ft-lbs?

Yea know, it's hard to say...all things considreed of course. I bet both would be surprizingly close in costs in the grand scheme of things, assuming neither team started with a good, free bottom end or engine.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by codyace

Yea know, it's hard to say...all things considreed of course. I bet both would be surprizingly close in costs in the grand scheme of things, assuming neither team started with a good, free bottom end or engine.

Engine alone, I spent $2,200 for a new crate motor from Jegs and I'm getting 325 at the wheels.

I don't think you can even buy a used LS for that much, can you?

[Pank]

yeah, you can.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by Pank

yeah, you can.

How much can you buy a longblock for?

[Pank]

that varies wildly, but you can buy totaled TA's or Camaros with LS1's for 2k-2.5k, pull the engine and part out the interior/rear etc, and basically have like a 200 dollar ls1.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by Pank

that varies wildly, but you can buy totaled TA's or Camaros with LS1's for 2k-2.5k, pull the engine and part out the interior/rear etc, and basically have like a 200 dollar ls1.

That's a lot of work and assuming the parts are good and you get good prices.

[codyace]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

Engine alone, I spent $2,200 for a new crate motor from Jegs and I'm getting 325 at the wheels.

I don't think you can even buy a used LS for that much, can you?

325 whp or 325 to the crank? I hate how thoes crate engines rate their power....so tricky!

But yes, you can find LS1's real cheap sometimes. I've seen some on ebay get scooped up for 1500 bucks in odd locations in the Northeast.

So for the same price, you're making the same poewr give or take dyno and driveline.

Originally Posted by Pank

that varies wildly, but you can buy totaled TA's or Camaros with LS1's for 2k-2.5k, pull the engine and part out the interior/rear etc, and basically have like a 200 dollar ls1.

That seems to be the popular way too, but you certainly need the time room and motivation to pull it off.

Originally Posted by g6civcx

That's a lot of work and assuming the parts are good and you get good prices.

True, but no more work than getting a backyard 350, taking it to the machine shop, etc etc (if you go that route).



Either way you go, you're geting kick ass power...I just think I'd personally prefer LS1 power if it was my car. That's not to say a 350 couldn't get it done, I just like the nice-ness of the EFI (and their awesome ECU's and tuners) as well as their ease of maintanence (spin the cam backwards, slap th cam in kinda stuff lol)

-CA

[Pank]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

That's a lot of work and assuming the parts are good and you get good prices.

yeah true, but thats seats, suspension stuff from whatever side wasnt hit, 2 wheels from whatever side, doors, door panel, carpet, steering wheels, stereos, hvac stuff, dash if it isnt messed up, seatbelts, interior plastic panels, spoilers, bumpers, lights etc.

The good part about the cars being fairly common, is theres usually a buyer for what you have.

I was kicking around the idea of buying a z28 or an SS camaro a while back, and theres always someone wanting some interior part on their forums.

If you have the time and space, its def the way to go

[s13 k3nrock]

hey sorry for the slow updates but we've been havin problems finding headers
that will clear the steering and not sit lower than the stub frame.
what kinda headers would u guys suggest using or what kinda car can i get headers off of that would fit the motor and clear the steering

[VQMaxFan]

A set of hooker shorty headers for a 3rd gen camaro might fit in there. Not sure on that though but i remember the 3rd gen camaro i had didn't have much room for headers.

Also what about just a nice set of manifolds? Not the gay ram horn style ones either. They are some decent factory manifold designs out there that didnt have smog crap on them. Like these eBay Motors: 1975 75 Chevy Monte Carlo 350ci 5.7L Exhaust Manifold R (item 310066417578 end time Aug-10-08 14:36:16 PDT)

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by s13 k3nrock

what kinda headers would u guys suggest using or what kinda car can i get headers off of that would fit the motor and clear the steering

I have block hugger headers. They clear the steering with plenty of room.

You can try Hedman or Hooker.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by codyace

325 whp or 325 to the crank? I hate how thoes crate engines rate their power....so tricky!

325 ft-lbs at the wheel. HP is really meaningless.

[codyace]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

325 ft-lbs at the wheel. HP is really meaningless.

Not disagreeing, just simply stating that those crate engines typically have some 'high' claims ya know. I always got a kick outof the muscle guys at our dyno days that claim 400 hp and then walk out with 285 whp hehe.

[SHIFT_*grind*]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

SBC = small block chevy, yes, but this just means everything smaller than a "big block", aka "mouse motors" vs "rat motors". Not being limited to 350ci. Includes the 327 (seen as the "perfect" bore/stroke ratio, also found in the 383), 350, 383, 396, 402, 418, etc.

I thought the 396 was a big block?

Also would include the 283 and 302 (327 w/ 283 crank).

Although if you managed to find a factory GM 302 in a junkyard, you should probably run out and buy a lottery ticket before your streak runs out.

[Pank]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

325 ft-lbs at the wheel. HP is really meaningless.

Then why aren't you driving a diesel around?

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by Pank

Then why aren't you driving a diesel around?

Not as much aftermarket support. You can "tune" any motor to deliver any torque curve. The question is how much money and reliability it will cost.

[SexPanda]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

Not as much aftermarket support.

WHAT?! I dont think thats true...

And also, with the LS1 talk, its alot easier/cheaper to find the 6.0 truck engine, and just slap on the LS1 intake, accessories, etc. Half the cost, only 90 lbs heavier, and more displacement lol.

Displacement ftw.

[Pank]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

Not as much aftermarket support. You can "tune" any motor to deliver any torque curve. The question is how much money and reliability it will cost.

if all you care about is torque, then why aren't you driving a stock diesel with a 4k redline and 500 ft/lb's? OEM = reliable

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by SexPanda

WHAT?! I dont think thats true...

There is no engine that has more aftermarket support in the US than a chevy v8.

The problem I'm having with my engine is that there are actually too many vendors. I don't know which one to choose.

Can the same be said about diesel?

[SexPanda]

ok i see what your saying now bra... Go with what you know, do some research, et cetera. Alot of people make stuff for the sr20, and even though its all the same product, quality differs. You just gotta do your homework.