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zenkiset · 07-30-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by turtle m3th

I'd go with a flywheel from sitemap toyotav8 toyota lexus manual transmission adaptors toyotav8 dude is super cool and doesn't bullshit you like Brett Collins. You can run whatever sr or ka clutch disk you want, and whatever 3sgte pressure plate you want with their flywheel. Brett just wants to sell you as much crap as possible, but not give you info on how to replace it in the future. He acts like it's custom, but it's not... oh yeah, and mounts are the same between the 13 and 14 chassis. I can sell you legit mounts that aren't out of square if you're interested.

so is this the flywheel you are recommending? Modified 3SGTE Flywheel

and pm me with info on the mounts please. brand, etc., and your price shipped to 42501.

Fries · 07-30-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiZ33

One thing I think it odd, is NOBODY sells headers with their kits. Granted, I understand it's a tight fit, etc etc, but after spending a bunch of money on a mount kit, you still have to fab your own headers? I mean, if the LS guys can get sexy headers to fit, why can't the 1UZ guys get a long-tube header to fit cleanly and elegantly? Is it a size/space thing? Is the LS engine that much narrower than a 1uz? Is it because 1UZ's are poorman's V8 swaps?

Im going to utilize a modified steering shaft from the concept8 5.0sbf swap kit in order to use the stock or 2uz headers. Will report back. . In 3 months.

MiamiZ33 · 08-04-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fries

Im going to utilize a modified steering shaft from the concept8 5.0sbf swap kit in order to use the stock or 2uz headers. Will report back. . In 3 months.

Tell me more... I can't seem to find any info online about Concept-8 steering shafts..

zenkiset · 08-04-2013, 08:22 PM

^^ same here. any other supporting proof that this will work? any links to where one can be obtained?

turtle m3th · 08-06-2013, 02:35 PM

^ Something that could make your swap relatively easier is routing your exhaust in a cross over configuration. I'm doing the same for my setup for easy of installation, and heat prevention for my fuel lines (which is an area you're dealing with.)

I don't have any pictures of how the header was modified to clear, but I'll try to get some pretty soon, but once you have point A and B it's fairly straight forward.
The same exact thing can be done with a front sump setup seeing as we've already done it on a buddy of mines s13. I'd look into it if I were you!

MiamiZ33 · 08-06-2013, 02:58 PM

I'm more interested in the header mod necessary to clear the steering shaft... after looking at the Sikky headers for LS guys which requires you have to take the steering shaft apart and it goes between the header runners (which seems like a pain in the ass, but it works), I can't believe that nobody makes a nice header for us 1UZ guys.

I purchased a turnkey swap, which in hindsight, was a mistake because the fabwork done by the previous owner was mediocre at best. I am a bit pickier when it comes to my fab, so now I am weighing my options of how much do I want to redo BEFORE I get it running.. but I'd be interested in this Concept-8 steering shaft mod.

Thanks for the crossover idea, the amount of ground clearance you have is awesome! Are you running a 3" collector?

turtle m3th · 08-06-2013, 05:39 PM

That isn't actually my car, just something I found on the old interwebs, hahaha! The concept-8 steering shaft mod is relatively simple, and any half assed fabricator should be able to pull it off imho. You're simple moving the velocity joint downstream slighty to change the angle at which the shaft connects to the rack. The stock headers were very easy to make fit though. I'll post pics once I have them.

turtle m3th · 08-10-2013, 01:35 AM

^ Damn, that blows about the TOB situation. I kind of expected the quality of it would be sketchy at best, which is why I opted to do it myself. The thing that pissed me off is after I paid him a healthy chunk of cash for the parts I did buy off of him, he wouldn't give me the final dimension that the TOB should end up as so I could do it myself. His reply was, "if you buy if from me it'll be perfect. It'll just work." I could understand if it was an original design, or I wasn't actually a customer, but come on!!! It's just two sleeves welded together. No secret there...

turtle m3th · 08-10-2013, 01:53 AM

Also, here is my simple sway bar solution for you guys! dug this up from my vh45 days.

here's a stock sway bar that was bent using heat and some muscle!

Notice how it lays flat on the ground compared to an unmodified sway bar? This is what offers the additional clearance needed.

stock for comparison

I don't have any install pics, but my buddy has been rocking it for some time without fail. Give it a shot folks! I prefer to rock the stock front sway, so this was a great and cost effective solution for me. This also clears lsx swaps and possibly I6 swaps.

turtle m3th · 08-18-2013, 08:10 AM

It's been quiet in this thread, so I guess I'll make some noise. Pretty small update, but I've got the drivetrain sorted out. I'm rocking an sr20 act 6 puck sprung HD disk and a 3sgte act HD pressure plate. Should do the trick nicely!

The flywheel is from toyotav8.com - Modified 3SGTE Flywheel
There is no need to use the stock flex plate spacer with this flywheel!

flywheel bolts are from jegs - ARP 203-2802 ARP Flywheel/Flexplate Bolts

pressure plate bolts are also from jegs - ARP 150-2202 ARP Pressure Plate Bolts

turtle m3th · 08-18-2013, 03:23 PM

Yeah, I made them to clean up the look a bit since I'm not running any covers on this motor. Just had them sheered at the metal supply and drilled some holes. Super simple!

turtle m3th · 08-30-2013, 10:37 PM

Waking up the crickets once again... Got my motor mounts done today! My buddy welded them up while I did the fit and finish.

More updates to come soon. And hopefully not just from me, hahaha! seriously though, i'm not the only one doing this swap on this forum.

turtle m3th · 08-30-2013, 10:52 PM

Got a couple more pics

Fries · 08-31-2013, 03:54 AM

Shit fits nice as hell Turtle. I can't wait to see what you do for headerwork.

s13hvv · 09-10-2013, 11:10 AM

Anyone have a fsm for the 93 uz

turtle m3th · 09-22-2013, 09:35 PM

Rattle canned the engine bay and made the rad support. bash-bar and headers sometime this week.

zenkiset · 09-23-2013, 01:56 PM

nicely done turtle!

turtle m3th · 09-24-2013, 12:10 AM

Thanks zenkiset! Make any progress on your swap yet? I'm hoping to have mine fired up in 3 weeks if all goes well.

zenkiset · 09-24-2013, 11:37 AM

im actually in the process of moving so I had to put it on hold til the end of next month. dad got a new job in south Carolina and they offered to let me live with them until I finished my swap so I didn't have to put my money into other bills and prolong it even more. so HOPEFULLY I will be updating this thread a lot here soon. ill add a picture tonight of my parts I have piled up in my bedroom lol.

edit: I also saw your car on a buddies instagram page lastnight. that engine looks sexy in that bay :thumbsup:

Jifter · 09-26-2013, 10:13 PM

I got mine wired and running the other day in my 89 coupe. Here is a vid of the first test drive from yesterday with open headers. The P\S line popped off as I was exiting my driveway lol. Throttle cable was also a bit tight.

Heres my build thread btw
1UZ S13 Coupe Build - Nissan 240SX Forums

zenkiset · 09-30-2013, 03:06 PM

just took an hour to read through your complete build. I must say, you are right about others not really posting up the problems you ran into. im putting mine into an s14, and haven't seen some of these problems in the s14 build threads. who knows though. and it has been a month now waiting for my pilot and release bearing adaptors to come in. I contact brett abour every four days after he replies and hes very non-chalaunt about it. getting very annoying.

turtle m3th · 09-30-2013, 08:18 PM

Glad to see you've got everything up and running Jitler!!! Do you happen to know what type of clearance the throwout bearing is supposed to have with the pressure plate? I can't get an answer out of anyone! Is they actually supposed to have slight contact, or a slight gap?

Jifter · 10-01-2013, 07:03 AM

I dont think there should be a gap between the pressure plate and bearing. That way you dont have play in the clutch pedal. I can tell you that to extend your bearing slider, you need to cut your 2nd slider just bellow the two tabs. Then weld it on top of your other un-cut slider.

Fries · 10-02-2013, 03:07 AM

KA24DE transmission bros. What size 1pc driveshaft did you get? Gonna need to order a custom one and I only want to have to do it once.

Jifter · 10-02-2013, 08:55 AM

I got a Shaftmasters alum shaft for the s13. Not sure of the length

Fries · 10-03-2013, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jifter

I got a Shaftmasters alum shaft for the s13. Not sure of the length

Yeah but you also moved the motor to stock location.

Jifter · 10-03-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fries

Yeah but you also moved the motor to stock location.

Thats right. I redrilled the mounting holes on bretts mounts to move the engine forward 1" so that I could mount the trans in the original location and use an OEM driveshaft length

newkid99 · 10-03-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jifter

Thats right. I redrilled the mounting holes on bretts mounts to move the engine forward 1" so that I could mount the trans in the original location and use an OEM driveshaft length

You say oem drive shaft length, but if I did this swap and moved engine forward for the right length, would it be necessary to have an aftermarket drive shaft? or could I use the oem one?

newkid99 · 10-02-2013, 09:09 AM

Guys quick question, I'm looking to put a 1uz-fe into my s13 hatch. The seller says he was putting it into a mk3 supra, and he has the mounts. Would these mounts be a dirrect fit? Or will the motor be too far back to use my ka24 trans and drive shaft? Any info is appreciated I just didn't want to open a new thread to ask. Btw subbing to this thread, there is some awesome fab work here!

zenkiset · 10-03-2013, 01:12 PM

Got my last parts from brett todayyyyy!

Also, does anyone have a write up on using power steering in this swap for an s14 or know where I can find one? There's a couple guys on here with this swap in their s14's but only state the parts they used which doesn't really help me that much. really need pics.

08-06-2013, 02:35 PM	#5
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	^ Something that could make your swap relatively easier is routing your exhaust in a cross over configuration. I'm doing the same for my setup for easy of installation, and heat prevention for my fuel lines (which is an area you're dealing with.) I don't have any pictures of how the header was modified to clear, but I'll try to get some pretty soon, but once you have point A and B it's fairly straight forward. The same exact thing can be done with a front sump setup seeing as we've already done it on a buddy of mines s13. I'd look into it if I were you! __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-06-2013, 05:39 PM	#7
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	That isn't actually my car, just something I found on the old interwebs, hahaha! The concept-8 steering shaft mod is relatively simple, and any half assed fabricator should be able to pull it off imho. You're simple moving the velocity joint downstream slighty to change the angle at which the shaft connects to the rack. The stock headers were very easy to make fit though. I'll post pics once I have them. __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-10-2013, 01:35 AM	#8
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	^ Damn, that blows about the TOB situation. I kind of expected the quality of it would be sketchy at best, which is why I opted to do it myself. The thing that pissed me off is after I paid him a healthy chunk of cash for the parts I did buy off of him, he wouldn't give me the final dimension that the TOB should end up as so I could do it myself. His reply was, "if you buy if from me it'll be perfect. It'll just work." I could understand if it was an original design, or I wasn't actually a customer, but come on!!! It's just two sleeves welded together. No secret there... __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-10-2013, 01:53 AM	#9
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Also, here is my simple sway bar solution for you guys! dug this up from my vh45 days. here's a stock sway bar that was bent using heat and some muscle! Notice how it lays flat on the ground compared to an unmodified sway bar? This is what offers the additional clearance needed. stock for comparison I don't have any install pics, but my buddy has been rocking it for some time without fail. Give it a shot folks! I prefer to rock the stock front sway, so this was a great and cost effective solution for me. This also clears lsx swaps and possibly I6 swaps. __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-18-2013, 08:10 AM	#10
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	It's been quiet in this thread, so I guess I'll make some noise. Pretty small update, but I've got the drivetrain sorted out. I'm rocking an sr20 act 6 puck sprung HD disk and a 3sgte act HD pressure plate. Should do the trick nicely! The flywheel is from toyotav8.com - Modified 3SGTE Flywheel There is no need to use the stock flex plate spacer with this flywheel! flywheel bolts are from jegs - ARP 203-2802 ARP Flywheel/Flexplate Bolts pressure plate bolts are also from jegs - ARP 150-2202 ARP Pressure Plate Bolts __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-06-2013, 02:58 PM	#6
MiamiZ33 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Miami, FL Age: 41 Posts: 258 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'm more interested in the header mod necessary to clear the steering shaft... after looking at the Sikky headers for LS guys which requires you have to take the steering shaft apart and it goes between the header runners (which seems like a pain in the ass, but it works), I can't believe that nobody makes a nice header for us 1UZ guys. I purchased a turnkey swap, which in hindsight, was a mistake because the fabwork done by the previous owner was mediocre at best. I am a bit pickier when it comes to my fab, so now I am weighing my options of how much do I want to redo BEFORE I get it running.. but I'd be interested in this Concept-8 steering shaft mod. Thanks for the crossover idea, the amount of ground clearance you have is awesome! Are you running a 3" collector?

08-18-2013, 03:23 PM	#11
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Yeah, I made them to clean up the look a bit since I'm not running any covers on this motor. Just had them sheered at the metal supply and drilled some holes. Super simple! __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-30-2013, 10:37 PM	#12
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Waking up the crickets once again... Got my motor mounts done today! My buddy welded them up while I did the fit and finish. More updates to come soon. And hopefully not just from me, hahaha! seriously though, i'm not the only one doing this swap on this forum. __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-30-2013, 10:52 PM	#13
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Got a couple more pics __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

08-31-2013, 03:54 AM	#14
Fries Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas/or/Afghanistan Age: 37 Posts: 1,514 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Shit fits nice as hell Turtle. I can't wait to see what you do for headerwork. __________________

09-10-2013, 11:10 AM	#15
s13hvv Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Dallas Tx Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Anyone have a fsm for the 93 uz

09-22-2013, 09:35 PM	#16
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Rattle canned the engine bay and made the rad support. bash-bar and headers sometime this week. __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

09-24-2013, 12:10 AM	#18
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Thanks zenkiset! Make any progress on your swap yet? I'm hoping to have mine fired up in 3 weeks if all goes well. __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

09-26-2013, 10:13 PM	#20
Jifter Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 34 Posts: 51 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got mine wired and running the other day in my 89 coupe. Here is a vid of the first test drive from yesterday with open headers. The P\S line popped off as I was exiting my driveway lol. Throttle cable was also a bit tight. Heres my build thread btw 1UZ S13 Coupe Build - Nissan 240SX Forums Last edited by Jifter; 09-29-2013 at 07:19 AM..

09-30-2013, 08:18 PM	#22
turtle m3th Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Age: 38 Posts: 1,608 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Glad to see you've got everything up and running Jitler!!! Do you happen to know what type of clearance the throwout bearing is supposed to have with the pressure plate? I can't get an answer out of anyone! Is they actually supposed to have slight contact, or a slight gap? __________________ "cigarettes killed my father, and raped my mother!"

10-01-2013, 07:03 AM	#23
Jifter Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 34 Posts: 51 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dont think there should be a gap between the pressure plate and bearing. That way you dont have play in the clutch pedal. I can tell you that to extend your bearing slider, you need to cut your 2nd slider just bellow the two tabs. Then weld it on top of your other un-cut slider.

10-02-2013, 03:07 AM	#24
Fries Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas/or/Afghanistan Age: 37 Posts: 1,514 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	KA24DE transmission bros. What size 1pc driveshaft did you get? Gonna need to order a custom one and I only want to have to do it once. __________________

10-02-2013, 08:55 AM	#25
Jifter Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 34 Posts: 51 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got a Shaftmasters alum shaft for the s13. Not sure of the length

10-02-2013, 09:09 AM	#29
newkid99 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Guys quick question, I'm looking to put a 1uz-fe into my s13 hatch. The seller says he was putting it into a mk3 supra, and he has the mounts. Would these mounts be a dirrect fit? Or will the motor be too far back to use my ka24 trans and drive shaft? Any info is appreciated I just didn't want to open a new thread to ask. Btw subbing to this thread, there is some awesome fab work here!