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sleepyS14se · 07-22-2013, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloazz40

Drop the the subframe, dude....

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drop the subframe? and do what look at it? pee on it? throw a stick at it?

lol... i am asking about when you burn the bushings out, i assume from the instructions it says to LEAVE the outer pressed in shell of the bushing IN the subframe...do not remove them.

ronny.jpn · 07-22-2013, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyS14se

drop the subframe? and do what look at it? pee on it? throw a stick at it?

lol... i am asking about when you burn the bushings out, i assume from the instructions it says to LEAVE the outer pressed in shell of the bushing IN the subframe...do not remove them.

Give up dude.

Drop subframe, burn old bushings out and clean it up, press new ones in, put subframe back on the car. Watch a video on YouTube. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

sleepyS14se · 07-22-2013, 03:13 PM

well considering my car is sittin in a parking area in a apartment complex and doesnt run or move i can just "remove the subframe dude" and your "give up dude" comment is not helping.

If you have shit ass comments to make please refrain from posting in my thread...i am a newcomer to nissans and i do not need smart ass comments like such.

I appreciate everyone who is being helpful..those who wanna be downers can sit and spin for all i care lol.

ronny.jpn · 07-22-2013, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyS14se

well considering my car is sittin in a parking area in a apartment complex and doesnt run or move i can just "remove the subframe dude" and your "give up dude" comment is not helping.

If you have shit ass comments to make please refrain from posting in my thread...i am a newcomer to nissans and i do not need smart ass comments like such.

I appreciate everyone who is being helpful..those who wanna be downers can sit and spin for all i care lol.

I messaged your ass trying to help you LOL but whatever broski. Newbs never search.

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drftngs14 · 07-22-2013, 04:22 PM

Yo man, I/we are willing to help but do some searching for these things. Its on YouTube, Google, Zilvia and pretty much every 240 forum out..
Jack the car up, place on jackstands, remove wheels, disconnect ebrake cables, support diff/subframe with jack, remove subframe brace, then remove 4 bolts holding subframe, drop entire subframe assembly- diff, suspension everything!- burn out old bushing, clean it up, press in new bushings and reinstall..

There are tons of help on here but search before asking else no one will chime in except to burn you..

sleepyS14se · 07-22-2013, 06:00 PM

all i was asking was if energys instructions were accurate when they said leave the shells in it. on hondas you burn the whole bushing out AND remove the shell. Thats all. And this guy wants to send me a msg trying to help but here on the public part where everyone can see he wants to act like a weiner and tell me to give up.

look back in this thread and take a look at my green molded filthy 240. it has been there since day one. i havent cleaned it or moved it or jacked it up. i am prepping to do a whole 5 speed swap as well as a new ka24de and some mods along the way. I am not gonna do anything to it where it sits because me and my dad will do all work at the shop and on a lift luckily.

thanks again to those with kind helpful words

ronny.jpn · 07-22-2013, 06:09 PM

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

drftngs14 · 07-23-2013, 06:52 AM

Yes the instructions are accurate. If you using a lift it will be even more easier. People do this in their driveway or even worse, parking garages! There a couple great videos on YouTube, strongly suggest watching them at least 2-3 times just to see everything clearly. IMO, it'd be a great time to change diff fluid, suspension arms if you can afford, brakes and inspect hubs/bearings that may need replacement. Also, if you have the time to spare, strip and paint the subframe, not necessary but why not..

sleepyS14se · 07-23-2013, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftngs14

Yes the instructions are accurate. If you using a lift it will be even more easier. People do this in their driveway or even worse, parking garages! There a couple great videos on YouTube, strongly suggest watching them at least 2-3 times just to see everything clearly. IMO, it'd be a great time to change diff fluid, suspension arms if you can afford, brakes and inspect hubs/bearings that may need replacement. Also, if you have the time to spare, strip and paint the subframe, not necessary but why not..

exactly what my plans are.

The reason i am buyin all these parts is because when i get everything together i am gonna tow it to my dads shop and we are gonna do the swap and at that time install a good bit of other stuff as well, such as bushings, ball joints, tie rods. sway bar end links, frame bushings etc..

Now i cannot decide between poly or solid sub bushings.. i think im gonna stick with the poly being i will be on the streets mostly.

drftngs14 · 07-23-2013, 07:06 AM

I was contemplating both as well, but the solid bushings are known to be extremely rigid and harsh, not really ideal for DD use. Stick with poly

sleepyS14se · 07-23-2013, 08:30 AM

i am gonna go for the ES ones... i cant believe they say to leave the outer oem bushing shell IN place thats insane. but oh well.

drftngs14 · 07-23-2013, 08:57 AM

The Ultimate Subframe Bushing (s13/s14) Install Thread (30+ Pictures, anti-56k) - Nissan 240SX Forums

Follow what this guys does..

sleepyS14se · 07-23-2013, 11:35 AM

^^ NICE

i ordered the circuit sports return springs set for the trans. also ordered the oem nissan shift plate/boot assembly "with shift pattern". and a isis egr block off...

things are coming along quickly... i went ahead and bought a melling brand timing kit so i will take care of all the timing parts ( believe it or not i owned a 90 model 240sx for a short period of time Because it needed a timing kit put on it) <<--- that being said, is why i am doing the timing parts Before we install the swap

sleepyS14se · 07-23-2013, 11:38 AM

^ by the way i had that 90 240sx for a bout 2 weeks til i had a chance to replace the timing set so it would stop slapping around so i could sell it... so i got no experience working on 240s besides that one time. lol...just didn't ever mod it or do anything cool.

sleepyS14se · 08-02-2013, 12:48 PM

well i got my s14 towed to the shop...preparing to do the swap...

being the car is covered in green mold and filth i decided to wash the car, WELL... i found a problemo!!! i noticed the drivers window was like barely cracked open i am guessing it was to vent the car while sitting, so before i wash this baby i threw a battey in it to roll it up before washing to prevent more water goin inside the car.... nothing happened. I am assuming it is the motor but hell who knows. I have read somewhere on here that there is window motor "amps", maybe it needs one idk.

I will post pics of my fresh ka24de soon. I got it fully rebuilt using oem spec parts all oem nissan where available and everything else is just aftermarket parts.

sleepyS14se · 08-06-2013, 07:18 AM

OK the bad ka24de is removed as well as the auto trans.

it was easy lol, getting the engine harness undone from the firewall and pulled through was tough but i got it done...

the engine that came OUT of the car had a single wire upstream and a 3 wire downstream...can anyone verify this is considered obd1

That guy with the red s14 · 08-06-2013, 07:26 AM

did you at least have the engine run and tested

sleepyS14se · 08-06-2013, 07:37 AM

yes i did but thats not what is the concern right now. i need to know what the hell is going on here with o2 sensors... Being the upstream is one wire i am thinkin obd1, but being it has a downstream i feel like it may be obd2, YET i have never seen a 3 wire o2 on a older import.

by the way my means of testing the ka24 was via a boat fuel pump lol, and yes it ran fine.

That guy with the red s14 · 08-06-2013, 08:08 AM

ok great haha boat pump but did you try reversing the o2 sensors

sleepyS14se · 08-06-2013, 08:12 AM

no why would i do that? man do you work on s cars? i am new to all this but you seem even more lost and aren't assisting me in any way lol

That guy with the red s14 · 08-06-2013, 08:15 AM

never did anything like this sorry just seeing if it would work im swapping an ls1 in my s14 but my bro has an s2k and thats where i got that info sorry dude

sleepyS14se · 08-06-2013, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That guy with the red s14

never did anything like this sorry just seeing if it would work im swapping an ls1 in my s14 but my bro has an s2k and thats where i got that info sorry dude

its cool.

sleepyS14se · 08-08-2013, 01:07 PM

ok i got the car up on jackstands and took off the wheels and pressure washed the whole thing and got all the ga clay off it and all the filth over the years. after work i am dropping the engine n trans in it!

WOOHOO.. getting excited

sleepyS14se · 08-09-2013, 07:52 AM

S14 5-speed Transmission Swap - Electrical Connections system

does any of this need to be done if i am using a original 5spd engine harness And 5 spd original lower harness?

sleepyS14se · 08-12-2013, 06:42 AM

i got my swap done...besides the fact my driveshaft is too long and i cannot test drive or move it...

sleepyS14se · 08-13-2013, 09:00 AM

im just gonna buy one from shaftmasters

07-22-2013, 03:13 PM	#93
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	well considering my car is sittin in a parking area in a apartment complex and doesnt run or move i can just "remove the subframe dude" and your "give up dude" comment is not helping. If you have shit ass comments to make please refrain from posting in my thread...i am a newcomer to nissans and i do not need smart ass comments like such. I appreciate everyone who is being helpful..those who wanna be downers can sit and spin for all i care lol. __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

07-22-2013, 06:00 PM	#96
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	all i was asking was if energys instructions were accurate when they said leave the shells in it. on hondas you burn the whole bushing out AND remove the shell. Thats all. And this guy wants to send me a msg trying to help but here on the public part where everyone can see he wants to act like a weiner and tell me to give up. look back in this thread and take a look at my green molded filthy 240. it has been there since day one. i havent cleaned it or moved it or jacked it up. i am prepping to do a whole 5 speed swap as well as a new ka24de and some mods along the way. I am not gonna do anything to it where it sits because me and my dad will do all work at the shop and on a lift luckily. thanks again to those with kind helpful words __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

07-23-2013, 08:30 AM	#101
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i am gonna go for the ES ones... i cant believe they say to leave the outer oem bushing shell IN place thats insane. but oh well. __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

07-23-2013, 11:35 AM	#103
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^^ NICE i ordered the circuit sports return springs set for the trans. also ordered the oem nissan shift plate/boot assembly "with shift pattern". and a isis egr block off... things are coming along quickly... i went ahead and bought a melling brand timing kit so i will take care of all the timing parts ( believe it or not i owned a 90 model 240sx for a short period of time Because it needed a timing kit put on it) <<--- that being said, is why i am doing the timing parts Before we install the swap __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

07-23-2013, 11:38 AM	#104
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ by the way i had that 90 240sx for a bout 2 weeks til i had a chance to replace the timing set so it would stop slapping around so i could sell it... so i got no experience working on 240s besides that one time. lol...just didn't ever mod it or do anything cool. __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

07-22-2013, 04:22 PM	#95
drftngs14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 38 Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yo man, I/we are willing to help but do some searching for these things. Its on YouTube, Google, Zilvia and pretty much every 240 forum out.. Jack the car up, place on jackstands, remove wheels, disconnect ebrake cables, support diff/subframe with jack, remove subframe brace, then remove 4 bolts holding subframe, drop entire subframe assembly- diff, suspension everything!- burn out old bushing, clean it up, press in new bushings and reinstall.. There are tons of help on here but search before asking else no one will chime in except to burn you..

07-22-2013, 06:09 PM	#97
ronny.jpn Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Mobile, Al Age: 29 Posts: 325 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

07-23-2013, 06:52 AM	#98
drftngs14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 38 Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yes the instructions are accurate. If you using a lift it will be even more easier. People do this in their driveway or even worse, parking garages! There a couple great videos on YouTube, strongly suggest watching them at least 2-3 times just to see everything clearly. IMO, it'd be a great time to change diff fluid, suspension arms if you can afford, brakes and inspect hubs/bearings that may need replacement. Also, if you have the time to spare, strip and paint the subframe, not necessary but why not..

07-23-2013, 07:06 AM	#100
drftngs14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 38 Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I was contemplating both as well, but the solid bushings are known to be extremely rigid and harsh, not really ideal for DD use. Stick with poly

07-23-2013, 08:57 AM	#102
drftngs14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 38 Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The Ultimate Subframe Bushing (s13/s14) Install Thread (30+ Pictures, anti-56k) - Nissan 240SX Forums Follow what this guys does..

08-02-2013, 12:48 PM	#105
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	well i got my s14 towed to the shop...preparing to do the swap... being the car is covered in green mold and filth i decided to wash the car, WELL... i found a problemo!!! i noticed the drivers window was like barely cracked open i am guessing it was to vent the car while sitting, so before i wash this baby i threw a battey in it to roll it up before washing to prevent more water goin inside the car.... nothing happened. I am assuming it is the motor but hell who knows. I have read somewhere on here that there is window motor "amps", maybe it needs one idk. I will post pics of my fresh ka24de soon. I got it fully rebuilt using oem spec parts all oem nissan where available and everything else is just aftermarket parts. __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-06-2013, 07:18 AM	#106
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	OK the bad ka24de is removed as well as the auto trans. it was easy lol, getting the engine harness undone from the firewall and pulled through was tough but i got it done... the engine that came OUT of the car had a single wire upstream and a 3 wire downstream...can anyone verify this is considered obd1 __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-06-2013, 07:26 AM	#107
That guy with the red s14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 31 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did you at least have the engine run and tested

08-06-2013, 07:37 AM	#108
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	yes i did but thats not what is the concern right now. i need to know what the hell is going on here with o2 sensors... Being the upstream is one wire i am thinkin obd1, but being it has a downstream i feel like it may be obd2, YET i have never seen a 3 wire o2 on a older import. by the way my means of testing the ka24 was via a boat fuel pump lol, and yes it ran fine. __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-06-2013, 08:08 AM	#109
That guy with the red s14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 31 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok great haha boat pump but did you try reversing the o2 sensors

08-06-2013, 08:12 AM	#110
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	no why would i do that? man do you work on s cars? i am new to all this but you seem even more lost and aren't assisting me in any way lol __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-06-2013, 08:15 AM	#111
That guy with the red s14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 31 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	never did anything like this sorry just seeing if it would work im swapping an ls1 in my s14 but my bro has an s2k and thats where i got that info sorry dude

08-08-2013, 01:07 PM	#113
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ok i got the car up on jackstands and took off the wheels and pressure washed the whole thing and got all the ga clay off it and all the filth over the years. after work i am dropping the engine n trans in it! WOOHOO.. getting excited __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-09-2013, 07:52 AM	#114
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	S14 5-speed Transmission Swap - Electrical Connections system does any of this need to be done if i am using a original 5spd engine harness And 5 spd original lower harness? __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-12-2013, 06:42 AM	#115
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i got my swap done...besides the fact my driveshaft is too long and i cannot test drive or move it... __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp

08-13-2013, 09:00 AM	#116
sleepyS14se Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	im just gonna buy one from shaftmasters __________________ 95 S14 se RB25DET 348whp