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Old 11-23-2015, 11:13 PM   #1
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I am from Vermont, if Bernie Sanders becomes president I am moving to Canada. F that guy, he hasn't done anything but fuck farmers in this state. Bernie says free college and everyone loses there mind. If you want to live in a socialist country vote Bernie you pinko liberals.
Fuck moving to Canada. Quit your job, do trade work under the table, and go to school to be a doctor or engineer.

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Move to China then.
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I'm all for this shit. No more participation trophies. You won't get one when you're fired from McDonald's. Life is ruthless and we should stop telling children otherwise.
With Bernie, it will be more encouraging to not work at all, than to work at McD's.

It seems like only a few months ago, I was calling everyone I knew retards for even entertaining the idea of voting for trump... Then the other candidates started opening their mouths. Now he's starting to look like the best choice.

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It's not going to happen because it has happened.....

I'll just use the most obvious example:

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well obviously.
I mean, they got a lot done, revitalized their economy, conquered most of the world and overall discovered many of the scientific technologies that enabled our modern conditions. For instance we wouldn't have gotten to the moon and space without them, early television technologies were developed by them as well as a large amount of atomic research. They also drew their country out of social decadence and uphevel which dominated post WW1. If it weren't for them killing everybody for no reason, they would be remembered as heroes. At least the last of Prussian civilization went out with a bang I suppose. Not that I in any way am some sort of nazi, its just an example of a situation and its accomplishments good or bad. This would probably be a better argument to have in History thread, you should visit it, because whoever made it is awesome.

I'm not saying a dictatorship would be fun to live under or that the Nazi's were heroes or some shit,but I just assume that I would be in charge if there was a dictatorship. .

Seriously though, as corbic said, one of the main problems with the modern era is peoples lack of ambition. This has to do not only with their schooling, but also what there parents make them do. One of the big problems with that is that many of the children coming into the world now are going to be entitled little dipshits. This has to do with both how their parents raise them and how society as a whole is now. No one is ambitious anymore, people just assume the world will work for them no matter what. Its not just any one culture, but a large amount of people as a whole. This whole social justice bullshit, that dominates world politics nowadays is the direct result of a hippy generation creating an entitled little fucktard generation. Thats why a large amount of the issues we see coming up are who is underrepresented, who is getting shortchanged etc. People need to realize that the world will never be fully equal for every one person, the world was created in a way that has given people different situations and disadvantages. God created man so that man would accomplish things despite all odds, not so that he could watch man be sloth and pretentiously act as if he is unequal in some dumb way. Life is tough, people just seem to have forgotten that in the sea of "help so and so" we see know.
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well obviously.
I mean, they got a lot done, revitalized their economy, conquered most of the world and overall discovered many of the scientific technologies that enabled our modern conditions. For instance we wouldn't have gotten to the moon and space without them, early television technologies were developed by them as well as a large amount of atomic research. They also drew their country out of social decadence and uphevel which dominated post WW1. If it weren't for them killing everybody for no reason, they would be remembered as heroes. At least the last of Prussian civilization went out with a bang I suppose. Not that I in any way am some sort of nazi, its just an example of a situation and its accomplishments good or bad. This would probably be a better argument to have in History thread, you should visit it, because whoever made it is awesome.
You're forgetting that the Nazi's were able to support all of their huge construction projects and build supplies for their war machine off the backs of slaves, who were literally worked to death. This was pretty much the opposite of what you're bitching about: A society being accelerated forward faster than it should by slavery, rather than a working economy where people are actually rewarded justly for their efforts. In this case, the deadbeat was the regime government that expected shit for free, rather than some lazy bum asking for a handout from the government like we have here.

But yeah, I agree, this generation is a bunch of lazy, self-entitled fucks. We don't have to take extreme measures to fix this though. Just stop fucking giving them free shit, and give only to people who earn it instead.


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I'd like to system of government where money cannot sway a vote. I have a voice, I lend thatvoice to a congressman, but just before the vote a lobbyist sneaks in an envelope of cash and suddenly my voice is SHIT!

I studied civics in high school and in college (albeit briefly) and I've no idea how lobbying is legal.
Because lobbying does not work that way.

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Also, trace the decline of our country in general to the politicians who have held senate and representative seats for decades. It makes me raise an eyebrow. I identify primarily as a libertarian. I see good on both sides of the fence and I firmly believe that a lot of people vote for the familiar face and give two shits about where those individuals stand on key issues. Apply term limits and get some fresh faces in office so we can make some damn progress.

A coworker once made the observation that the rise of the nanny state coincided with the right for women to vote.

Sudden "think of the children" became a motto and the first thing they did was ban drugs, gambling and alcohol.

People cote based solely on their own selfish needs.

Romney was absolutely right in this video, yet ironical it caused out rage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2gvY2wqI7M

This is why politicians can't be frank about our society.
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I would vote for Trump over Larry David for sure! I would hold my nose but fuck it!
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You really have to be a complete fucking moron to think that Trump is a viable candidate for the Presidency.
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You really have to be a complete fucking moron to think that Trump is a viable candidate for the Presidency.

Well look at the options.

Hilary, a criminal and career liar.

Cruz, a flip flopping ass that sounds like a sleeve ball baptist minister.

Sanders, a half dead zombie communist


Suddenly it's clear why Trump is as popular as he is.
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Well look at the options.

Hilary, a criminal and career liar.

Cruz, a flip flopping ass that sounds like a sleeve ball baptist minister.

Sanders, a half dead zombie communist


Suddenly it's clear why Trump is as popular as he is.

Which is why I hope Rubio gets the Republican Nom.
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Donald Trump is a fucking joke! Any one who comes out and says if elected President he will ban all Muslims is a joke. The very foundation of what this country is built on is the bill of rights, the first ten amendments of the constitution. The first amendment of the constitution is not the right to bear arms the first amendment as a matter of fact the first part of the first amendment reads as " The first amendment to the united States Constitution prohibits the making of any law expecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion.... ". The freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country so great, you can be Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist or you can worship the fonze like Peter Griffin from family guy. Go ahead and vote for someone who says he's going to take your freedoms away from you.
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Donald Trump is a fucking joke! Any one who comes out and says if elected President he will ban all Muslims is a joke. The very foundation of what this country is built on is the bill of rights, the first ten amendments of the constitution. The first amendment of the constitution is not the right to bear arms the first amendment as a matter of fact the first part of the first amendment reads as " The first amendment to the united States Constitution prohibits the making of any law expecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion.... ". The freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country so great, you can be Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist or you can worship the fonze like Peter Griffin from family guy. Go ahead and vote for someone who says he's going to take your freedoms away from you.

Go back to China.
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Hey Canada... We go, you go too.
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Hey Canada... We go, you go too.

Canada is already a sunken ship.



Oil industry is shit. Wood grinded to a halt several years ago. Mining industry is also shit. Last week 90 miners lost their jobs in the town I live in, at basically one of the very few operating mines.
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lmao seems like China and Mexico don't like how merican politix is turning out lmao
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...fing_wall.html
http://freebeacon.com/politics/china...nevada-caucus/

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While you guys have very good points in that the welfare system needs to be HIGHLY regulated and constantly monitored for abuse, I think it's fucked up to simply say things like "welfare should be left to charity" or "people should have the option to exempt their taxes from supporting it"
You think families and people should be homeless/etc when born with severe mental disorders/deformation/etc? I think you'd feel real fucking differently about that shit if you or someone you loved were in that position.
Should people who are in accidents that cause brain damage simply be told "sucks bro" goodluck with your life, oh by the way here's your medical bill too.
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While you guys have very good points in that the welfare system needs to be HIGHLY regulated and constantly monitored for abuse, I think it's fucked up to simply say things like "welfare should be left to charity" or "people should have the option to exempt their taxes from supporting it"
You think families and people should be homeless/etc when born with severe mental disorders/deformation/etc? I think you'd feel real fucking differently about that shit if you or someone you loved were in that position.
Should people who are in accidents that cause brain damage simply be told "sucks bro" goodluck with your life, oh by the way here's your medical bill too.
If someone has brain damage from an accident is that automatically someone elses responsibility to pay for said accident? If a typhoon hits the phillipines should I be forced to pay for their welfare? or should it be left up to me whether I give a shit or not? If some slut made terrible life decisions and has an unwanted pregnancy, should I have to pay to have her child murdered in the womb?

" to each according to their own merits", is western civilizations most cherished philosophy, merits of ability,position,priviledge, and charitable inclination are for the individual to develop

You're imposing ethical constructs on everybody rather than allowing them to voluntarily be ethical.

Charity is what should be there for those folks that have real issues, 95% of people on welfare are a bunch of poor,lazy,assholes whose "underprivaledge" is the result of their terrible life decisions.
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If someone has brain damage from an accident is that automatically someone elses responsibility to pay for said accident? If a typhoon hits the phillipines should I be forced to pay for their welfare? or should it be left up to me whether I give a shit or not? If some slut made terrible life decisions and has an unwanted pregnancy, should I have to pay to have her child murdered in the womb?

" to each according to their own merits", is western civilizations most cherished philosophy, merits of ability,position,priviledge, and charitable inclination are for the individual to develop

You're imposing ethical constructs on everybody rather than allowing them to voluntarily be ethical.

Charity is what should be there for those folks that have real issues, 95% of people on welfare are a bunch of poor,lazy,assholes whose "underprivaledge" is the result of their terrible life decisions.
Like I said, I totally agree with you about welfare needing to be extremely regulated and consistently monitored so that those 95% of people that are riding the system.
However I strongly disagree with you in denying responsibility to help your fellow fellow man; eg. Disabled. We have different fundamentals. Health-care is my career and passion.
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Like I said, I totally agree with you about welfare needing to be extremely regulated and consistently monitored so that those 95% of people that are riding the system.
However I strongly disagree with you in denying responsibility to help your fellow fellow man; eg. Disabled. We have different fundamentals. Health-care is my career and passion.
Well maybe people wouldn't be so against it if it wasn't abused so much. Welfare is no different than a lot of other good things that start out very well meaning and then get ruined because a bunch of fucking assholes with no self control, abuse them.

And no, I don't feel bad about eliminating welfare and leaving it up to charities and religious institutions. I work long hours, including lots of holidays and weekends, at great personal sacrifice to fix machines that go out and rain firey hell down on people who mean to do this country harm, and who want to take away your freedom to even come on here and bitch about this shit to begin with. They also provide the disaster relief that you're so happy about. I think I do quite enough, thank you very much. I don't need to also be pouring my hard earned tax dollars into welfare slugs so they can have free Obama phones and eat better than I do.
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well looks like Hillary is going to get the nod. seems like trump is the only alternative!!
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well looks like Hillary is going to get the nod. seems like trump is the only alternative!!
Now if only some dem diehards would see this and realize you have to pick your poison.
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My view as a douchey millenial;

Bernie for president.

Don't pull that "you just want free college and health insurance" shit on me, I run a business and am a HS dropout. Fuck formal education.

He's not a racist, a psychopath, or someone who got to where they were riding on the coat tails of their family. He's genuine.

Most of what I don't align with in his plan is shit that congress will stop him from carrying out anyways.
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My view as a douchey millenial;

Bernie for president.
Voting for the classic Jew socialist?
he's gonna liberate ur weed and stuff man. Social Justice for the win dawg.

On a more serious note, Militarily who do you think will be best in terms of policy etc. I'm not part of the military nor have I been, but it is a pretty big deal and a big chunk of our national expenditure. None of them really have any military background now, and I haven't heard of their positions,so I was just wondering. Also Foreign policy wise, none of them seem very diplomatic or aloof. I have heard them mention china, which is probably this countries greatest enemy/rival, but have not gone into it in detail.

All the repub candidates seem pretty similar, I just don't really agree with the deport everyone rhetoric they seem to spout. They should just deport terrorists and people on welfare hahaha. I don't want them to deport all the people I work with. I know they're all full of shit, and couldn't possibly hope to deport all illegals, but it's the thought that counts man.

Trump is the ultimate troll, and it is very sad that people get so serious about him. Like "he is a racist" or " he is the next hitler!" and I'm all like "you realize he's just fucking with you right?". It's funny to watch all the SJW's react to his showmanship. I do respect Trump's political ability and charisma man. He responds and politicizes quite adeptly.

not voting, it's just interesting to see what will happen.
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Voting for the classic Jew socialist?
he's gonna liberate ur weed and stuff man. Social Justice for the win dawg.

On a more serious note, Militarily who do you think will be best in terms of policy etc. I'm not part of the military nor have I been, but it is a pretty big deal and a big chunk of our national expenditure. None of them really have any military background now, and I haven't heard of their positions,so I was just wondering. Also Foreign policy wise, none of them seem very diplomatic or aloof. I have heard them mention china, which is probably this countries greatest enemy/rival, but have not gone into it in detail.

All the repub candidates seem pretty similar, I just don't really agree with the deport everyone rhetoric they seem to spout. They should just deport terrorists and people on welfare hahaha. I don't want them to deport all the people I work with. I know they're all full of shit, and couldn't possibly hope to deport all illegals, but it's the thought that counts man.

Trump is the ultimate troll, and it is very sad that people get so serious about him. Like "he is a racist" or " he is the next hitler!" and I'm all like "you realize he's just fucking with you right?". It's funny to watch all the SJW's react to his showmanship. I do respect Trump's political ability and charisma man. He responds and politicizes quite adeptly.

not voting, it's just interesting to see what will happen.
I hope weed stays in this quasi legal/grey-area phase forever, but that's for another thread. Good try

Trump is a troll, but in a matter that shouldn't be fucked with. It was already convoluted as shit. I'm a troll and like to watch the e-world burn, but reality is a different matter. I don't see him doing much good for the country. I don't see him being an appropriate representative of our country. I don't see much good coming from a guy who has never held office before, regardless of how much money or "success" they have. I don't trust him. He entered in the right election year, though...his competitors make it easy for him.

I think we "lose" no matter who we have end up in office.
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trump will not get my support but if i have to vote between the other side and trump... i will vote for trump, and that's how it's looking to be now.
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I'm under the assumption that no matter who's in office, shi* will stay the same. That is the way politics goes, and that is the way people are. I can tell you this from my experience in both government and millitary.

That being said, I just go for the JFK of the appropriate era; and it sure as hell won't be Trump LOL.
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