Drift entrance techniques/form

[imoverherre]

I know it's a noob question but who drifts with out power steering or is it just me.....

And don't get me wrong I plan I putting it back on when I find the parts/ junkyards

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by imoverherre

I know it's a noob question but who drifts with out power steering or is it just me.....

And don't get me wrong I plan I putting it back on when I find the parts/ junkyards

It's not entertaining to drift without on a 240. Corolla dudes run manual racks. Pretty common.

[KA240SX808]

Not a good idea.....

[whyteboi]

I'm a weaksause so I need powersteering.

[fckillerbee]

it's not even about being strong....it binds at full lock. when you cross "zero" it sticks. If you have shitty tires forget it.....

Anything slow sucks. If you are doing like 80mph drifts without dropping below 20mph...you are good.

[di-devol]

^Same. I'm using the cheapest pads from Napa, no issues here. I've thought about a hydro, but I don't "need" it yet, this works fine for me.

Driving at a local track tomorrow, I'll take some in car footage.

[di-devol]

Couple runs with the new set-up. Blew the t2 gasket on the way to the track, made it more difficult, but being aggressive really really helped. With the turbo spooling correctly for the next event, I shouldn't have any problems with it at all.


You can hear the clutch slip up top, I'm still having issues with that. With the gasket blown, it felt like I was fighting the car a bit as well.

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by di-devol

Couple runs with the new set-up. Blew the t2 gasket on the way to the track, made it more difficult, but being aggressive really really helped. With the turbo spooling correctly for the next event, I shouldn't have any problems with it at all.


You can hear the clutch slip up top, I'm still having issues with that. With the gasket blown, it felt like I was fighting the car a bit as well.

first vid was dope.

second vid you could tell you were off line a little towards the end.

everything looked awesome man. You can tell your car is low, and you are receiving bump steer (it's whats making you turn in super fast, having to correct). Only thing that'll fix that is ride height/more tire sidewall.

You can tell you are running some big tires on what looks to be about 230whp. Maybe a 245 in the rear or something smaller with 30 psi?

Try not to play with the clutch too much, and focus on timing (boost). At the end of that last video, you were coming into a right turn from a left, you can see you straigten, and then clutch kick. when you just past the zero point of your transition, you should already start building boost. practice feathering the throttle a little...to keep it in boost, but not give you huge wheel spin.

Other than this...just practice. It's a tight course, and you do a good job keeping it on course. Noobs would be dirt dropping and going off track all day.

[zeebrah]

^^ maybe its just me but you need to chillax with your hands. initiate sooner and let it steer itself. or initiate sooner and give the wheel one throw and let it spin to lock and hold it there. looks like youre trying to have your hands on the wheel at all times thus somewhat slowing it down when spinning it. pretty good besides that and sick video. and track looks mad fun ^_^

[di-devol]

Yea lol, the combined complexity of the turbo gasket and a slipping clutch made it un- predictable. I was fighting the car. Thanks though!

[Tearlessj]

I move my hands all over the wheel. I don't really plan on changing it that much. It doesn't really hinder my driving that much. If it works for you than you don't have to change it.

Entry into 90's at MIR. on Vimeo

[jesse_s13]

Originally Posted by Tearlessj

I move my hands all over the wheel. I don't really plan on changing it that much. It doesn't really hinder my driving that much. If it works for you than you don't have to change it.

Entry into 90's at MIR. on Vimeo

That was pretty bad ass

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by Tearlessj

I move my hands all over the wheel. I don't really plan on changing it that much. It doesn't really hinder my driving that much. If it works for you than you don't have to change it.

Entry into 90's at MIR. on Vimeo

Looks good. Looks as if your caster settings are really low, or you are running shitty front tires.

Get yourself a good wheel...i don't know how you drive with it having those bumps all over the wheel...would drive me nuts. lol.

[Tearlessj]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

Looks good. Looks as if your caster settings are really low, or you are running shitty front tires.

Get yourself a good wheel...i don't know how you drive with it having those bumps all over the wheel...would drive me nuts. lol.

The tires were DONE. They were just some Hankook V12s that I used all last season. They we're already cording on that run. I can't wait to get new tires!

[zeebrah]

damn that was legit. i still cringe when i see so much hand action haha. but ya if it works then fuck ya stick to it

[Tearlessj]

Thanks,

I'm going to try to cut down at the next event and see how it is. I can probably do a little less. It might have to do with me needing a bucket seat too. lol

[bataangpinoy]

Originally Posted by Tearlessj

bucket seat

will make things a shit ton easier

[conrad_s13.5]

i try not to move my hands much,.. cuz in weird situations you end up fumbling over yourself i feel like.

but everyones different. I think gittin still drives with one hand..?...lol

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by conrad_s13.5

i try not to move my hands much,.. cuz in weird situations you end up fumbling over yourself i feel like.

but everyones different. I think gittin still drives with one hand..?...lol

he does drive with one hand sparingly. I dont even think he realizes he still does it.

at the end, you found yourself correcting, and over correcting, a good front tire setup will help with that a lot.

that track looks fucking awesome to drive...is that the same track they have pro am at?

[conrad_s13.5]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

he does drive with one hand sparingly. I dont even think he realizes he still does it.

at the end, you found yourself correcting, and over correcting, a good front tire setup will help with that a lot.

that track looks fucking awesome to drive...is that the same track they have pro am at?

Appreciate it man,..yeah, i did have some shit tires that day...lol
I also scrubbed a lil too much speed with the angle before and couldnt throw the weight into that last turn,...kinda just compensating, trying to keep drifting threw it.

that track is fun,..def my favorite by far. 2 day event in 2 weeks if you're interested. (not sure where you're located)
..and dnt think any serious events have ever been here, more like an excuse for everyone to come hangout and get seat time!

[tscharf]

that video was pretty legit

[zeebrah]

disregard music and lame editing haha..AND disregard its a slowass single cam that can hardly hold a decent size turn. and slipping clutch..hahah. yea its time for new everything . Anyways i *try* to not let my hands cross over as much as possible. at least for me i like this because if i need a correction my hands are already in place to fix...and yea agreed with conrad i feel like my hands are in the way of each other. But pointers appreciated

Adams Motorsports Park Drifting to some sweet ass Ke$ha! SINGLE CAM 240sx s13.5 Joe MacDonald - YouTube

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by zeebrah

disregard music and lame editing haha..AND disregard its a slowass single cam that can hardly hold a decent size turn. and slipping clutch..hahah. yea its time for new everything . Anyways i *try* to not let my hands cross over as much as possible. at least for me i like this because if i need a correction my hands are already in place to fix...and yea agreed with conrad i feel like my hands are in the way of each other. But pointers appreciated

Adams Motorsports Park Drifting to some sweet ass Ke$ha! SINGLE CAM 240sx s13.5 Joe MacDonald - YouTube

looks god. You def have that weight shifting down. Now all you need to do is perfect your line...but that's in time. Try doing some road racing..it helps.

[zeebrah]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

looks god. You def have that weight shifting down. Now all you need to do is perfect your line...but that's in time. Try doing some road racing..it helps.

well i usually try to just hit the ghetto 'clipping zones' at that track which in my opinion are a terrible line haha. so what do you suggest...like a wider or more shallow line?

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by zeebrah

well i usually try to just hit the ghetto 'clipping zones' at that track which in my opinion are a terrible line haha. so what do you suggest...like a wider or more shallow line?

one thing you notice with your single cam, is you have to keep the speed up. Which means that your wheel speed needs to be faster then you are traveling.

Instead of doing hard flicks, and laying on throttle, and then shooting for the clipping, try weight shifting a little lighter, and gradually add angle. It'll keep your wheel speed up, and make sure your lines are smooth. It'll help with that last outside clip coming out of that chicane following entry.

[zeebrah]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

one thing you notice with your single cam, is you have to keep the speed up. Which means that your wheel speed needs to be faster then you are traveling.

Instead of doing hard flicks, and laying on throttle, and then shooting for the clipping, try weight shifting a little lighter, and gradually add angle. It'll keep your wheel speed up, and make sure your lines are smooth. It'll help with that last outside clip coming out of that chicane following entry.

hahah you are good. thanks man! hopefully going out this weekend. idk if my buddy with the camera will be going but if so ill try to watch myself and see

[di-devol]

I can disregard everything but the angle of the camera, now my neck hurts lol. Looks good for a singlecam.

[zeebrah]

Originally Posted by di-devol

I can disregard everything but the angle of the camera, now my neck hurts lol. Looks good for a singlecam.

haha muhhh bad.

hey so what do people do to scrub speed?..yet still have angle. like in a single cam i basically just go wot in a straight like and hit ebrake then back to wot. im afraid if i flick towards then away from the wall it wont have the power or speed to bring it back around...?

[di-devol]

Thanks so much!
You are good, I have roll center, but have not adjusted bump steer at all. I was running a 235/45 at 45psi in the rear.

The power is the thing, I should be close to 340ish whp lol, this was a gt2871r .86 @ 16psi.. I had to keep it revved up so high just to make boost with the turbo gasket blown. Next event I'll get more footage, should be alot smoother with the power actually there.

Thanks again!

[StandLow_Ralphy]

Perfect thread for new-born drifting skills to get better ^_^