The Future Automotive Thread

[SERADAMEL]

Bravo!!!

[SERADAMEL]

I absolutely love the simplicity of the design and how they stay close to the 240z. The best for me is that there is no unnecessary vents, spoilers and shit like that. I hope they will keep it clean and simple like this.
GREAT, GREAT, GREAT!

[kingkilburn]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'll wait until I see one IRL, but I kind of agree.

I'm seeing bits from all of the previous Z's plus Aston Martin.

Seems a bit sculptural and over detailed for a Z, especially when you're completely leaning on legacy. I think that body line dropping down over the door might be the biggest thing jumping out at me. Zs are almost more architecture than design to me, if that makes sense.

[kingkilburn]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFLddO5B...d=du8qy535878o

Ok. This is better. I'll try to hold harsh judgement for a while.

[deolio]

wish they had a bit of a lighter hand with the retro styling. the square grill and the circle air vents in the door piss me off. mish-mash of circular and angular drives me crazy. i think there's a lot of room for improvement in the aftermarket though.

[Corbic]

They will cancel it.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Boy did they style a car for middle aged dudes into euros. Purely visually, I don't regret my purchase.

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Seems a bit sculptural and over detailed for a Z, especially when you're completely leaning on legacy. I think that body line dropping down over the door might be the biggest thing jumping out at me. Zs are almost more architecture than design to me, if that makes sense.

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Ok. This is better. I'll try to hold harsh judgement for a while.

That front lip is what I wanted to see. Lose the GT wing and some of the stancy-ness and we're looking a lot better.

I'm trying to visualize it with a smaller grill like a 350Z Nismo, but maybe that would look worse?

[deolio]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'm trying to visualize it with a smaller grill like a 350Z Nismo, but maybe that would look worse?

z33 nismo v3-style front and rear with some le mans-influenced overs and we'd be talking

[mechanicalmoron]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I never really understood the vape/ Subaru thing... Seems like that whole image is just associated with the cringe car scene that was going on when vaping became trendy.

Crazy how that trend has effectively changed how people look at WRX/ STI's (even though that image goes "beyond" both of those cars).

I guess it's the same as when you bring up the words "240sx" and people say "Oh, those cheap drifty cars that explode into a million pieces when they hit something at 10mph?".

Also, you posted that meme last year, before Christmas and I'm still good. lol

Whatever may have spawned it, everything about that meme is true.

I find it interesting that subaru has been making "great" cars that eat rings and headgaskets for longer than pretty much any of us has been alive.

[future]

Not into the 370 with a body kit

Give us a fully redesigned car. Not a teaser

[spooled240]

'Crankaholic' on Jalopnik photoshopped the front air dam to be less square and it looks much better imo

[kingkilburn]

The facia is too rigidly S130. It's 1:1 of potentially the weakest detail of the original.

[DreamN]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'll wait until I see one IRL, but I kind of agree.

I'm seeing bits from all of the previous Z's plus Aston Martin.

Don't see anything wrong with that. Pretty much follows back to what the original Z's designed was based on too.

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by deolio

z33 nismo v3-style front and rear with some le mans-influenced overs and we'd be talking

Yes.

Originally Posted by mechanicalmoron

Whatever may have spawned it, everything about that meme is true.

I find it interesting that subaru has been making "great" cars that eat rings and headgaskets for longer than pretty much any of us has been alive.

Head gasket failures are actually a lot more rare on turbo engines...

The ringland issues can be associated with abusive driving, lack of maintenance and shit tunes + shit mods. Something that wouldn't be any different on a SR20DET. Again, I'm sure some engines are fucked from the start, but it's not as common as the internet likes to believe.

I mean there's no shortage of STI's on AutoTrader with 100K-150K+ mi on them and a lot of them are still going for $15K-$20K.

Go ahead and keep believing whatever you like, though...

Originally Posted by DreamN

Don't see anything wrong with that. Pretty much follows back to what the original Z's designed was based on too.

That's the thing... Some of us want Nissan to recapture the essence of 90's to early 00's "Nismo Shit" vs. trying to make a "This is a cheaper Vantage/ F-Type esque option".

I'm not hating on this new Z. Just not seeing anything that makes me want one "yet" (which is why I'd have to see one IRL, before making complete judgement).

[cured13]

I think that the big square front grille looks great and will not touch it at all.
I wish they keep front as it is - simple.

Agree with you all about the door handles, they don't have to be so big and obnoxious.

In general its beautiful and elegant design.

I love it.

[cured13]

Keep it simple and clean Nissan and let the aftermarket take care of all that "RICEY" crap.

[TheRealSy90]

All the people complaining about the grille, it?s literally drawn straight from the 240z. Also did everyone forget the huge grille opening the 350z concept had?




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[mechanicalmoron]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

Head gasket failures are actually a lot more rare on turbo engines...

The ringland issues can be associated with abusive driving, lack of maintenance and shit tunes + shit mods. Something that wouldn't be any different on a SR20DET. Again, I'm sure some engines are fucked from the start, but it's not as common as the internet likes to believe.

Well just because your car doesn't have a turbo, doesn't mean your headgasket should turn to mush at a hundred thousand miles.

I might worry about the oil if I was buying one, but I generally see them when a problem reaches it's apex, so I'm much more aware of the headgaskets.

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

All the people complaining about the grille, it?s literally drawn straight from the 240z.

Which imo looked better with a lip/ chin spoiler on it.

The lip (not the canards, or red accent splitter) on that grey rendering makes the front bumper look a lot better.

Originally Posted by mechanicalmoron

Well just because your car doesn't have a turbo, doesn't mean your headgasket should turn to mush at a hundred thousand miles.

I might worry about the oil if I was buying one, but I generally see them when a problem reaches it's apex, so I'm much more aware of the headgaskets.

Agreed. The problem with the NA EJ was the open deck block and shit single layer head gasket. Subaru changing to a multi layered steel HG did some to remedy the issue, but some still had problems, because of the open block design.

The USDM turbo variants have a semi-closed deck, so that's why the issue isn't prevalent (realistically any car can blow a HG, though).

[SimpleS14]

Love the styling of the Nissan Z Proto. The greenhouse looks like the Z34, so we might be looking at a refresh/rework of sheet metal on an existing platform (think Dodge Charger/Challenger). This can certainly help with keeping cost down.

I also see a lot of aftermarket potential too.

Hopefully Nissan survives long enough the bring this car to production (with minimal changes).

[BryanSayWhat]

I did 2mins of MS paint to that Nismo render.

I think it looks a lot better without the GT wing, red accent and WS stickers (I'm not good enough to change the camber/ stancy):

[Goofs]

Just it being boosted and 6spd is a huge plus
I see it being priced a little under the supra

Another plus is reputable companies like AMS have already gotten a lot out of the Q50/Q60 platform, they have also been promoting this reveal heavily

[crash n' burn]

Originally Posted by spooled240

'Crankaholic' on Jalopnik photoshopped the front air dam to be less square and it looks much better imo

I'm honestly mixed about this concept. While I think the squared grill opening from a dead on front view looks a bit bad, the 3/4 and side profile view that shows it's angular shape look infinitely better. If they were to simply round off the top, bottom, or both corners, it would provide a more appealing modern shape but you'd risk, in essence, giving it a GTR shaped grill which would really kill it's identity. I think it'll show better in person so I'll wait.

I think the same goes for the rear end. It looks good and I get where they're pulling design cues from, but I don't think it belongs. The rear end with the tail lights reminds me more of a retro styled FC if Mazda were to ever consider it.

They nailed the body profile and interior on this thing though; looks absolutely killer.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Originally Posted by spooled240

'Crankaholic' on Jalopnik photoshopped the front air dam to be less square and it looks much better imo

That looks so much better.

[Dutchmalmiss]

More rear shots and also to get a better idea of size. Taillights are now starting to give off a Testarossa vibe.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I don't like the front grille or the rear end. The greenhouse is tiny.

I like the front corners and side profile. The interior is decent.

Moot points because I'll never buy one and will likely never drive one.

[BryanSayWhat]

Is anyone actually digging that gimmicky "katana" trim?

I guess they could always option it the same color as the roof, or carbon fiber.

[kingkilburn]

The katana is the weakest shit. lol

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

Is anyone actually digging that gimmicky "katana" trim?

I guess they could always option it the same color as the roof, or carbon fiber.

They're doing it for the weebs.