Drift entrance techniques/form

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by zeebrah

well i usually try to just hit the ghetto 'clipping zones' at that track which in my opinion are a terrible line haha. so what do you suggest...like a wider or more shallow line?

one thing you notice with your single cam, is you have to keep the speed up. Which means that your wheel speed needs to be faster then you are traveling.

Instead of doing hard flicks, and laying on throttle, and then shooting for the clipping, try weight shifting a little lighter, and gradually add angle. It'll keep your wheel speed up, and make sure your lines are smooth. It'll help with that last outside clip coming out of that chicane following entry.

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by di-devol

Couple runs with the new set-up. Blew the t2 gasket on the way to the track, made it more difficult, but being aggressive really really helped. With the turbo spooling correctly for the next event, I shouldn't have any problems with it at all.


You can hear the clutch slip up top, I'm still having issues with that. With the gasket blown, it felt like I was fighting the car a bit as well.

first vid was dope.

second vid you could tell you were off line a little towards the end.

everything looked awesome man. You can tell your car is low, and you are receiving bump steer (it's whats making you turn in super fast, having to correct). Only thing that'll fix that is ride height/more tire sidewall.

You can tell you are running some big tires on what looks to be about 230whp. Maybe a 245 in the rear or something smaller with 30 psi?

Try not to play with the clutch too much, and focus on timing (boost). At the end of that last video, you were coming into a right turn from a left, you can see you straigten, and then clutch kick. when you just past the zero point of your transition, you should already start building boost. practice feathering the throttle a little...to keep it in boost, but not give you huge wheel spin.

Other than this...just practice. It's a tight course, and you do a good job keeping it on course. Noobs would be dirt dropping and going off track all day.

[di-devol]

Thanks so much!
You are good, I have roll center, but have not adjusted bump steer at all. I was running a 235/45 at 45psi in the rear.

The power is the thing, I should be close to 340ish whp lol, this was a gt2871r .86 @ 16psi.. I had to keep it revved up so high just to make boost with the turbo gasket blown. Next event I'll get more footage, should be alot smoother with the power actually there.

Thanks again!

[conrad_s13.5]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

he does drive with one hand sparingly. I dont even think he realizes he still does it.

at the end, you found yourself correcting, and over correcting, a good front tire setup will help with that a lot.

that track looks fucking awesome to drive...is that the same track they have pro am at?

Appreciate it man,..yeah, i did have some shit tires that day...lol
I also scrubbed a lil too much speed with the angle before and couldnt throw the weight into that last turn,...kinda just compensating, trying to keep drifting threw it.

that track is fun,..def my favorite by far. 2 day event in 2 weeks if you're interested. (not sure where you're located)
..and dnt think any serious events have ever been here, more like an excuse for everyone to come hangout and get seat time!

[zeebrah]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

one thing you notice with your single cam, is you have to keep the speed up. Which means that your wheel speed needs to be faster then you are traveling.

Instead of doing hard flicks, and laying on throttle, and then shooting for the clipping, try weight shifting a little lighter, and gradually add angle. It'll keep your wheel speed up, and make sure your lines are smooth. It'll help with that last outside clip coming out of that chicane following entry.

hahah you are good. thanks man! hopefully going out this weekend. idk if my buddy with the camera will be going but if so ill try to watch myself and see

[Tearlessj]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

Looks good. Looks as if your caster settings are really low, or you are running shitty front tires.

Get yourself a good wheel...i don't know how you drive with it having those bumps all over the wheel...would drive me nuts. lol.

The tires were DONE. They were just some Hankook V12s that I used all last season. They we're already cording on that run. I can't wait to get new tires!

[StandLow_Ralphy]

Perfect thread for new-born drifting skills to get better ^_^

[iamtheyi]

I was wondering, I currently have a s13 two row radiator on my S14, and to be honest, it looks pretty janky. For those who drift, does the stock s14 ka radiator with stock e-fan and clutch fan cool enough for track days?

Thinking about taking out the s13 radiator until I can get myself a Mishimoto radiator later on.

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

I was wondering, I currently have a s13 two row radiator on my S14, and to be honest, it looks pretty janky. For those who drift, does the stock s14 ka radiator with stock e-fan and clutch fan cool enough for track days?

Thinking about taking out the s13 radiator until I can get myself a Mishimoto radiator later on.

Sell it to me? I need to make my car texas proof.

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

Sell it to me? I need to make my car texas proof.

Well first I have to find out whether or not stock radiator is track proof lol.

[whyteboi]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

Well first I have to find out whether or not stock radiator is track proof lol.

If your running a stock KA I don't see how you would have an issue.

[Brian]

my car got pretty hot sometimes ( running multiple laps in 110+ heat at Willow Springs), but never overheated

[iamtheyi]

Well Brian, if you did it, my car probably could too. I wonder how FCkb's car did. I know he ran stock KA for awhile too.

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

Well Brian, if you did it, my car probably could too. I wonder how FCkb's car did. I know he ran stock KA for awhile too.

After about 2 laps, the car would lose a little power in the heat.... but it never hurts to make the car run better.

Honestly, running distilled water and water wetter worked really well for temps after I replaced the KA the first time. Also running a hood vent helped a huge amount with temps. I remember driving to track, and it wouldn't even get warm...lol. KA's are awesome.

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

After about 2 laps, the car would lose a little power in the heat.... but it never hurts to make the car run better.

Honestly, running distilled water and water wetter worked really well for temps after I replaced the KA the first time. Also running a hood vent helped a huge amount with temps. I remember driving to track, and it wouldn't even get warm...lol. KA's are awesome.

Huh, I'll proly get hood spacers then and run some water wetter.. And fill up my radiator with distilled water instead of a hose haha. And iamtheyi, I'm serious about that radiator haha just lmk.

[diacris]

I have an auto KA. Even harder to drift
But I do have a welded diff . Since I can't clutch kick, I have to be cranking the wheel really deep just lose traction. Inflating the rears to 50 psi helps too n Oh, and I have to keep the shifter in 1st. Only goes up to like 35 before I'm about to send the KA to hell.

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by diacris

I have an auto KA. Even harder to drift
But I do have a welded diff . Since I can't clutch kick, I have to be cranking the wheel really deep just lose traction. Inflating the rears to 50 psi helps too n Oh, and I have to keep the shifter in 1st. Only goes up to like 35 before I'm about to send the KA to hell.

leave it in second ;D

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

Huh, I'll proly get hood spacers then and run some water wetter.. And fill up my radiator with distilled water instead of a hose haha. And iamtheyi, I'm serious about that radiator haha just lmk.

Yeah, according to the owner of baker performance (brothers with owner of neo synthetics), Darlene says normal water has minerals that will stick to the motor and cause hot spots...which can in turn collect, and permanently damage the motor. She's the one that recommended this setup..just don't go to the mountains or your rad will freeze over. lol.

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

Yeah, according to the owner of baker performance (brothers with owner of neo synthetics), Darlene says normal water has minerals that will stick to the motor and cause hot spots...which can in turn collect, and permanently damage the motor. She's the one that recommended this setup..just don't go to the mountains or your rad will freeze over. lol.

Lol it gets cold at Willow Springs enough to snow in the nearby region. Is that close enough haha.

Wouldn't running 50/50 be ideal because the coolant also acts as a lubricant for the water pump?

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

Lol it gets cold at Willow Springs enough to snow in the nearby region. Is that close enough haha.

Wouldn't running 50/50 be ideal because the coolant also acts as a lubricant for the water pump?

To my understanding, coolant doesn't actually make the car run any cooler, it raises the boiling point of the water enabling you to run it hotter with less risk of damage. The reason why water wetter works is because it breaks up the surface tension of the water allowing it to flow more easily.

[mitcheyismyname]

Well then..................................... :P

I'd take it to a track if we had one buddy.

[TrustS13]

^ in before you get removed for skreet sliding.

[di-devol]

Alright, I got to drift this morning for a while with the new turbo. Doesn't seem too laggy, but being on this short track it does seem to fall outta boost alot. I found myself actually modulating the clutch alot to compensate for that. Is this a bad habbit? Serious smoke show though.

[vibe240]

stock sr20 at 7psi



what do you guys think ?

[DRIFTER-M]

Ok, so for some reason, even though I have been around forever - I still seem to disagree with some...

I have a super-Q 2way Kaaz.

When my clutch is in, doesn't the diff go back to open gear?

When the clutch is not in, it locks up (basically on and off throttle).

Some people say 2ways are not suppose to change when the clutch is initiated. I know mine does, it dips sharper into the corner when I clutch in.

Call me wrong or right, just let me know! Thanks!

[KA240SX808]

Its a 2-way meaning it locks on both accel and deccel at the same rates/percentage.

[DRIFTER-M]

^ Yes I know that, the question is - does it unlock when you press the clutch in? My diff def. does something if I push my clutch in to shift while turning. It feels like it unlocks.

[Tearlessj]

Originally Posted by vibe240

stock sr20 at 7psi



what do you guys think ?

Looking pretty good. I would try to focus on a little more angle, but besides that seems like you got it down.

You move your hands like mine too. haha

[KA240SX808]

Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

^ Yes I know that, the question is - does it unlock when you press the clutch in? My diff def. does something if I push my clutch in to shift while turning. It feels like it unlocks.

Ah got it,sorry.
AFAIK yes it's suppose to unlock as there is no accel or deccel load being put on the drivetrain.

[DRIFTER-M]

^



Thanks KA240SX808!!!