Drift entrance techniques/form

[imput1234]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

I guess I'll just have to do whatever I can. Full throttle all the time.

No lifting as always I'm guessing?

Lifting fully scrubs a shit ton of speed, never fully lift.

[StigMeister]

so with a stock KA you wanna go WOT (never fully lift) and keep a shallow angle?
what about a stock SR? I would spin out a lot when I first got my stock SR, also had my fair share of understeer

[vibe240]

with my stock sr im full trottle most of the time while lifting a little when necessary

[vibe240]

(put in hd )


last ''track'' day of 2012 . track was wet and clutch was dying . was praticing getting close to the wall . was pretty fun .

[KA240SX808]

Originally Posted by StigMeister

so with a stock KA you wanna go WOT (never fully lift) and keep a shallow angle?

That's the "Secret" of keeping a KA sideways. Come in Fast, Stay WOT, and keep a Shallow angle.

[KA240SX808]

Shit my phone, Glove box?
Damn I'm strapped in.
Fuck it I'll just sit on it.
lmao


Looks like a pretty fun Skid pad.
Any steering mods?

Also sorry but I have to throw this in there. Welded VLSD?

[vibe240]

Originally Posted by KA240SX808

Shit my phone, Glove box?
Damn I'm strapped in.
Fuck it I'll just sit on it.
lmao


Looks like a pretty fun Skid pad.
Any steering mods?

Also sorry but I have to throw this in there. Welded VLSD?

no steering mod except tein tie rod spacer , getting the knuckles modified next season

and yeah you can weld a vlsd and its really great ! My mecanic did it so im not exactly sure how but I think he opened everything and welded the spider gear inside the diff .

[240dream]

Originally Posted by vibe240

no steering mod except tein tie rod spacer , getting the knuckles modified next season

and yeah you can weld a vlsd and its really great ! My mecanic did it so im not exactly sure how but I think he opened everything and welded the spider gear inside the diff .

instead of welding you could have shimmed it to make it a 2 way(welded diff alays locked) but speaking of knuckles is anyone running the pmb pro ones?

[cantdrift11]

Question for you guys! So I'm running a gutted, cage sxe10, basically stock 2jge. About 200hp to the wheel and gutted weighing about 3000. Still heavy... I run 225's all around. With our cars you can't get much aggressive offsets to push the wheel base further out. Trying to fit some aggressive wheels and not down with reverse raking :/
Would it be wrong to go wider like 235's while keeping 225's in the rear. It would just allow me to keep my 17's up front more aggressive and not destroying my fiber glass fenders at full lock. 225/40/17 rarely exist so 235/49/17 maybe.....?

[bataangpinoy]

you mean track, not wheelbase.

wheelbase refers to length from wheel to wheel (front to rear).

[crzsteveo]

KAs are the best to learn IMO. Ive personally been watching guys with more power than they can handle/drive with at summit point.

I love my KA. Pretty much what everyone is saying is good. Just enter in a corner with some speed, then drop it into second or whatever kind of turn it might be. If your gonna drift in 3rd gear, what i do is yank the ebrake and get the rpms up high then let the clutch out and itll continue to slide. key thing is to never let off the throttle.

this vid i did some 3rd gear drifting. its hard.

3rd gear drifting - YouTube

[KA240SX808]

Looks like you could def use some more Front Grip, Tire wise atleast.
Also with a course like that and having a KA, all my initiations would be clutch kick feints.
For the sole purpose of keeping as much momentum as possible, especially with those 3rd gear entries.

[iamtheyi]

I finished balcony this weekend. Going around the shack with a KA is retarded. 0 power. Ultimate frustration. I'll put up videos for pointers if I can do that somehow. No in car though. No gopro or anything. Filmed from outside.

[iamtheyi]

So here's small edit I pulled from the track event showing my most frustrating part of the entire event. The stupid green shack I can't get around because of lack of power. It's retarded.

Forgive the shittiest video quality in the world. My friend's camera is not what you would call modern technology.

Any pointers?

These were the best two runs around that thing. Every thing else my car just kind of stops.

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

So here's small edit I pulled from the track event showing my most frustrating part of the entire event. The stupid green shack I can't get around because of lack of power. It's retarded.

Forgive the shittiest video quality in the world. My friend's camera is not what you would call modern technology.

Any pointers?

These were the best two runs around that thing. Every thing else my car just kind of stops.

What gear would you be in once you transitioned for the shack? Sounds like you needed to downshift or setup the turn before hand to let you leave it in higher rpms so you have enough power to get somewhat through the turn.

Also, your friends camera makes the video look like an old 2005 ish video or like the old Drift101 videos. haha

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

What gear would you be in once you transitioned for the shack? Sounds like you needed to downshift or setup the turn before hand to let you leave it in higher rpms so you have enough power to get somewhat through the turn.

Also, your friends camera makes the video look like an old 2005 ish video or like the old Drift101 videos. haha

I'm in second gear. I enter third, downshift to second on the first transition. No downshift again. I really don't want to downshift to first. That sounds retarded lol.

I know. Friends camera sucks something terrible when I look at the footage. Didn't realize it was this bad. Probably going to pick up something else soon during the Christmas season. Should've gotten one on Black Friday but meh.

[KA240SX808]

What's your setup?
I'm assuming that your in 2nd at the time of leaving the shack?
If you haven't already up your Rear Tire pressure to at least 55. That's normally what I run. Sometimes I step into 60psi but rarely do.
Sounds like a few clutch kicks could help keep that going.
You may need to come in a little more wide and shallow to keep it going though. But I know your not gonna keep that sweep coming from the shack in one shake especially from that low a speed in a KA.
So you can either come out the shack shallow and hold it as long as you can or come in a make like your gonna do a complete circle around the shack but switch to a right real quick and then kick it back out left.

Now idk the course nor have a driven on it. Just giving insight from what your video shows.

[Aroddalobster]

it just sounds to my noob ears like you really need to downshift into 1st somewhere around the transition.

[KA240SX808]

although downshifting to first may work. I vote against that for the sake of the first gear Synchro. Our trans don't take first gear downshifts very well. At least for what I've exp. and seen.

[vibe240]

downshifting into 1st ? not unless you have a limitless supply of transmission

drifting in 3rd gear in a ka is definitly possible , downshift in second then clutch kick till your leg cant do it anymore.

[iamtheyi]

I was also running 70psi in the rear

[KA240SX808]

What size in the Rear?

[iamtheyi]

Running 215/45/17 all around

[vibe240]

with my ka I was running about 45-60 psi depending on the tire size and course. With my sr , 32-45psi with 205-245 r17

[KA240SX808]

You should have no problem with a few clutch kicks if your running 215's @ 70psi.
I did fine on 225's @ 50psi.
Granted not on that track but tight radius turns in 2nd were no problem.

[jtaylor]

If you watch videos or read of drifters with all skill levels, it's all preference about set up. Youtube the drift king. He will have a Toyota 86 and will walk you through techniques. A huge advantage will be the VLSD. A few if you can spare the money, so one can always be getting rebuilt and one on standby and the other getting the life sucked from it. If drifting on the weekends your rear diff will last about 6 months give or take. Everyday about a month. Buy good tires for the front and get some used tires for the rear and go practice. Then when your skills start improving then worry about sway bars, coilovers, strut bars, camber, toe, and so on. Till then just get the basics down.

[whyteboi]

Why do people still mess with VLSD? If you can't afford an actual diff why not just weld yours for close to nothing and then know its locked when you need it, since it's locked all the time.

[h2v7]

^ yea i know at midvale you need like a nice 2way nismo or welded only

[jtaylor]

Using the VLSD is good to try on since they are abundant and pretty good when rebuilt. The Nismo ones are becoming more rare, just the name alone is why the get bought.

[iamtheyi]

Mine is welded... The Drift Bible is incredibly retarded in teaching someone the basics of drifting. He's using footwork and steering that is beyond comprehension to the average driver.

VLSD isn't great for drifting. Doesn't lock hard enough for stock KA.