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s0ldats · 08-25-2005, 12:47 PM

tire size?

defiantmofo · 08-25-2005, 02:42 PM

those are stock sized 195.55.15

upSLIDEdown · 08-25-2005, 03:32 PM

Stock is 195/60/15 or optional 205/60/15.

doriS13 · 08-26-2005, 12:43 AM

hey i was wondering if the group buy is still going on and if the 8/6 are still available also, does the s13 with those on the highest setting even clear the speed bumps? that looks sooooooooo low... maybe too low by the way i'm running 205-50-15 or 55 i cant remember thanks in advance

sw20>>s14 · 08-26-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by doriS13

hey i was wondering if the group buy is still going on and if the 8/6 are still available also, does the s13 with those on the highest setting even clear the speed bumps? that looks sooooooooo low... maybe too low by the way i'm running 205-50-15 or 55 i cant remember thanks in advance

dont be lazy and read the last four pages...all your questions will be answered...

S_14.5 · 08-27-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by defiantmofo

I didnt really adjust the height to much. Their almost as high as they go, maybe i could raise them a half in or so. The ride is awesome, and definetly high quality.

haha...yah that's pretty low, but those are on the stock 15s. Anyone got them on 95-98 240SX? I'm sure for those w/ an aero kit & 18s on a S14 will have the perfect ride height and clearance....so anyone w/ more pics?

sw20>>s14 · 08-27-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by S_14.5

haha...yah that's pretty low, but those are on the stock 15s. Anyone got them on 95-98 240SX? I'm sure for those w/ an aero kit & 18s on a S14 will have the perfect ride height and clearance....so anyone w/ more pics?

im getting mine on monday

ill snap some pics for you virgil...dood, you know that i still havent sprayed that white bumper of yours? lol, lazy...

S_14.5 · 08-28-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sw20>>s14

im getting mine on monday

ill snap some pics for you virgil...dood, you know that i still havent sprayed that white bumper of yours? lol, lazy...

hey! that bumper is still in pretty damn good condition! let me drop by to check out the c/o's on your car. I've decided no to part out w/ my car...just updating it w/ new parts now. let me know when you get the DD c/o's.

S_14.5 · 08-28-2005, 12:11 AM

ohh yeah before I forget...since you haven't painted the rear bumper, I wanted to make a quick mold off it. thinking of making some FRP rear zenki valances.

sw20>>s14 · 08-29-2005, 08:18 PM

okay so i got my ddrugs today...yay! yay! whatever...i must say, i am a little disappointed and have a few gripes, but keep in mind that they are not installed and these are just my personal opinions...

--first of all, the coilovers were not very strategically packed...imagine a huge box, and four individually wrapped coils slammin against each other and the box...the box had hella holes indicating some coercive force during shipping...when i opened it, there were three on the bottom and one front sprawled on top of the three...just looked like some sweatshop kid threw em in a box and taped it up...no damage as of yet
--second of all, for something thats 40 way adjustable, the clicks are pretty weak and vague...
--third, for something that is a higher level product, i assumed that there would be some kind of instructions or documentation of some sort. not that im lost, just that finishing touches, professionalism, and first impressions complete the package of a good product...if my neighbor got these on accident, he wouldnt be able to tell them from ebay ones...even the box is blank...(not that it matters, like i said, professionalism)
--fourth, the camber plates dont have any markings...whats my camber spec again?..
--fifth, david told me that they ran out of springs and had to use silver springs...i was hoping i would get red ones...not a big deal, but its a psychological, insecure thing...i want whats pictured and original...who wants an alternative or alteration of the original?
and
--lastly, WHERE ARE MY DAMN SPANNER WRENCHES????!!!!!!!

none the less, the quality looks good...and as for TF, they did a good job not being too late on the delivery and gave us good prices...only gripe for TF is their packing tactics...im gonna see if more ppl have reviews on them before i slap them on...im starting to come down with a case of uncertainty and buyers remorse...someone in a mature and constructive fashion prove me wrong with some credible evidence...

sw20>>s14 · 08-29-2005, 08:46 PM

yeah...i calmed down a little...lol...so read my post ^ with a 3/10th adversity level...it was a very "high>>low" emotional moment so i only saw the cons...however, i still stand by my points, but i guess now its more of observations than gripes...BUT I STILL WANT MY SPANNER WRENCHES!!! AND A MEDIUM SHIRT!!!

no, seriously...

defiantmofo · 08-29-2005, 08:54 PM

ya i also didnt get my spanner wrenches. dave gave me his though. If you call them i know they will be more than willing to help you out.

sw20>>s14 · 08-29-2005, 08:58 PM

youre one of the few that have them on their car...its been almost a week for you right?..care to post some feedback/review so far?

White · 08-29-2005, 09:49 PM

I've got them on my car as well. Initial reaction was that I was in way over my head, but after fooling around and adjusting them for a few days I think they are awesome. Mine did come with the wrenches (although you can just use a screw driver), and also a Medium shirt, but that is entirely defiantmofo's fault as he told Dave that was my size.

I am wearing the properly sized Origin shirt as I type this.

When I first put them on, and not having any experience with aftermarket suspensions and whatnot, I was slamming the tire into the wheel well (so slammed) and scraping on everything and all this stupid shit. Turns out you definately have to compress the spring when you put them on, not just slap them in, should have listened to Dave a bit more closely. I rolled my fenders in a fit of madness 1/2 way through the process of getting them ready for the street, but I think all you really have to do is preload the springs when you put them on. Be sure to count threads/measure to make sure you are even. I think my fronts are at 10 threads.

I'm not at maximum ride height and the ride is decent for street, no scraping on everything if you keep an eye on the road and keep the adjustment more toward the stiff side. If you have it full soft watch out for hard corners, haha, the noise is embarrasing in public places.

The rear is going to be so negatively cambered it's probably worth investing in some RUCAs, I'll probably be going with BattleVersion because Pfeiffer beasted my car when it was pretty stock and ruined my dreams that I needed a turbo to drift. That is, if Bill (defiantmofo) doesn't drag me to Ohio for some drifting, then I'll grab something random from TF if I can get it aligned this week.

Going from stock suspension to D-Drugs and strut tower bars has made a crazy difference, with the D-Drugs at 50% stiffness the car has almost 0 body roll, if I picked up some sways I'm sure it will be ludicrous. I don't know what else you really want to know about them, but post it up and I'll answer your questions to the best of my ability.

I'll post up pics of my car when I put my Full Battle Mode vinyl back on, Heh.

Update: Oh yeah, the adjustment knob lets you feel every click, haven't had a problem wondering if I clicked or not. I click around in groups of 5 so it's an 8 way, heh. In other news, having your car so slammed creates an intense need for "aero" to go full hovercraft mode, despite the fact that you know you don't drive carefully enough to not have it destroyed immediately in that little trench down the street.

s134 · 08-29-2005, 10:04 PM

great advertising.. makes me wanna sell my other car and current c/os & get these..

sw20>>s14 · 08-30-2005, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by White

Be sure to count threads/measure to make sure you are even. I think my fronts are at 10 threads.

what do you mean 10 threads up front? 10 threads showing? how is that possible? or 10 threads left? how is that possible? im tired and obviously im not getting it...lol

White · 08-30-2005, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sw20>>s14

what do you mean 10 threads up front? 10 threads showing? how is that possible? or 10 threads left? how is that possible? im tired and obviously im not getting it...lol

The two spinning discs on the tube where the spring is that you use to compress the spring, when you lock them together there are 10 threads between where they lock and the bottom of the threads.

s0ldats · 08-30-2005, 09:48 AM

i got mine, no spanner wrenches. packed just like sw20 said. they seem like quality parts, haven't gotten to installing them yet.

i kind of miss the dual height adjustability, but we'll see how these perform.

quick question, how do you know when you reach full height? is it to the top of the threads on the shock body?

edit: and another thing, i put the fronts on last night and with camber plates maxed out, it didn't look like i got that much negative camber. i also made sure that the top slotted spindle mount was pushed all the way in as well.

we'll see what the alignment shop says.

defiantmofo · 08-30-2005, 10:56 AM

I could only get -1.8 degrees of negative camber up front. I was hoping for -2.0, but 1.8 is close enough i suppose. The rear i was at about -3.0. I would definetly suggest RUCAS. As far as the clicks go, i think they have a pretty good feeling to them. Compared to my KONIs on my 350z, which have no clicks, i think they seem fine.

s0ldats · 08-30-2005, 12:13 PM

wtf is up with the front camber plates

sw20>>s14 · 08-30-2005, 02:24 PM

what did all you guys preload them to? im looking at maximum/full height and just wondering what you guys did it at...did you guys get corrosion/rust/dirt on yours? on one of my fronts, where the bottom of the threads meet the lower perch, theres like this corrosion/rust/dirt in between the last thread and the lower mount...how bout you guys? my buddy told me that thats just the shit that comes out when welding...

s0ldats · 08-30-2005, 02:50 PM

update: talked to the cool guys at TF. they're sending the spanners out ASAP. great service for sure.

s0ldats · 08-31-2005, 02:00 AM

update:

fully installed, drove around for a bit on full soft. i love them. a tad on the bouncy side on full soft, i'm going to change those settings ntomorrow and get an alignment.

i'm almost at full height in the rear and about 2 inches to lowest on the front.

tires: 205/50/15 all around.

pics, tomorrow.

240trainee · 08-31-2005, 10:43 AM

Just got my wrenches today, putting them on hopefully tonight/ tommorrow. gonna be rockin, now my stock teardrop wheels will look even worse, lol. Whatever.

BOROSUN · 09-01-2005, 12:40 AM

i want to see it fully slammed!... did any one try it?

240trainee · 09-01-2005, 10:51 AM

Mine are close to fully slammed, about an inch above iirc. they are low as crap, lol. A friend traded me some swazies, gotta get those on the car and then I'll post some pics. My only gripe with them is the fact the camber plates have no degree marks on them. No other problems in my book so far, they ride pretty well imo, at 20 from soft in front and 30 from soft in the back, gonna knock those rates down alittle and see what happens after work.

and an alignment, gotta get one, lol

s0ldats · 09-01-2005, 11:56 AM

rear at almost full height, but front is pretty low. why? if i put the front to full height, it is wayyyyy higher in the front.

240trainee · 09-01-2005, 12:05 PM

Dude, rotate that pic. please, lol.

240trainee · 09-01-2005, 12:07 PM

There, edited and re-hosted it myself, lol, couldn't stand it.

s0ldats · 09-01-2005, 03:23 PM

hahahah thanks, i didn't even realize.

08-25-2005, 03:32 PM	#123
upSLIDEdown Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: VA.. And for those that keep PMing me asking what kit I have, it's Origin Stream. Posts: 1,730 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Stock is 195/60/15 or optional 205/60/15. __________________

08-26-2005, 12:43 AM	#124
doriS13 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: nor cal Age: 36 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wondering hey i was wondering if the group buy is still going on and if the 8/6 are still available also, does the s13 with those on the highest setting even clear the speed bumps? that looks sooooooooo low... maybe too low by the way i'm running 205-50-15 or 55 i cant remember thanks in advance

08-28-2005, 12:11 AM	#129
S_14.5 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Japan / California Age: 42 Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ohh yeah before I forget...since you haven't painted the rear bumper, I wanted to make a quick mold off it. thinking of making some FRP rear zenki valances. __________________

08-29-2005, 08:18 PM	#130
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	okay so i got my ddrugs today...yay! yay! whatever...i must say, i am a little disappointed and have a few gripes, but keep in mind that they are not installed and these are just my personal opinions... --first of all, the coilovers were not very strategically packed...imagine a huge box, and four individually wrapped coils slammin against each other and the box...the box had hella holes indicating some coercive force during shipping...when i opened it, there were three on the bottom and one front sprawled on top of the three...just looked like some sweatshop kid threw em in a box and taped it up...no damage as of yet --second of all, for something thats 40 way adjustable, the clicks are pretty weak and vague... --third, for something that is a higher level product, i assumed that there would be some kind of instructions or documentation of some sort. not that im lost, just that finishing touches, professionalism, and first impressions complete the package of a good product...if my neighbor got these on accident, he wouldnt be able to tell them from ebay ones...even the box is blank...(not that it matters, like i said, professionalism) --fourth, the camber plates dont have any markings...whats my camber spec again?.. --fifth, david told me that they ran out of springs and had to use silver springs...i was hoping i would get red ones...not a big deal, but its a psychological, insecure thing...i want whats pictured and original...who wants an alternative or alteration of the original? and --lastly, WHERE ARE MY DAMN SPANNER WRENCHES????!!!!!!! none the less, the quality looks good...and as for TF, they did a good job not being too late on the delivery and gave us good prices...only gripe for TF is their packing tactics...im gonna see if more ppl have reviews on them before i slap them on...im starting to come down with a case of uncertainty and buyers remorse...someone in a mature and constructive fashion prove me wrong with some credible evidence... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

08-29-2005, 08:46 PM	#131
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	yeah...i calmed down a little...lol...so read my post ^ with a 3/10th adversity level...it was a very "high>>low" emotional moment so i only saw the cons...however, i still stand by my points, but i guess now its more of observations than gripes...BUT I STILL WANT MY SPANNER WRENCHES!!! AND A MEDIUM SHIRT!!! no, seriously... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

08-25-2005, 12:47 PM	#121
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tire size?

08-25-2005, 02:42 PM	#122
defiantmofo Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Prospect Heights, IL Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	those are stock sized 195.55.15

08-29-2005, 08:54 PM	#132
defiantmofo Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Prospect Heights, IL Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	ya i also didnt get my spanner wrenches. dave gave me his though. If you call them i know they will be more than willing to help you out.

08-29-2005, 08:58 PM	#133
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	youre one of the few that have them on their car...its been almost a week for you right?..care to post some feedback/review so far? __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

08-29-2005, 09:49 PM	#134
White Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Burbs, Chicago Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've got them on my car as well. Initial reaction was that I was in way over my head, but after fooling around and adjusting them for a few days I think they are awesome. Mine did come with the wrenches (although you can just use a screw driver), and also a Medium shirt, but that is entirely defiantmofo's fault as he told Dave that was my size. I am wearing the properly sized Origin shirt as I type this. When I first put them on, and not having any experience with aftermarket suspensions and whatnot, I was slamming the tire into the wheel well (so slammed) and scraping on everything and all this stupid shit. Turns out you definately have to compress the spring when you put them on, not just slap them in, should have listened to Dave a bit more closely. I rolled my fenders in a fit of madness 1/2 way through the process of getting them ready for the street, but I think all you really have to do is preload the springs when you put them on. Be sure to count threads/measure to make sure you are even. I think my fronts are at 10 threads. I'm not at maximum ride height and the ride is decent for street, no scraping on everything if you keep an eye on the road and keep the adjustment more toward the stiff side. If you have it full soft watch out for hard corners, haha, the noise is embarrasing in public places. The rear is going to be so negatively cambered it's probably worth investing in some RUCAs, I'll probably be going with BattleVersion because Pfeiffer beasted my car when it was pretty stock and ruined my dreams that I needed a turbo to drift. That is, if Bill (defiantmofo) doesn't drag me to Ohio for some drifting, then I'll grab something random from TF if I can get it aligned this week. Going from stock suspension to D-Drugs and strut tower bars has made a crazy difference, with the D-Drugs at 50% stiffness the car has almost 0 body roll, if I picked up some sways I'm sure it will be ludicrous. I don't know what else you really want to know about them, but post it up and I'll answer your questions to the best of my ability. I'll post up pics of my car when I put my Full Battle Mode vinyl back on, Heh. Update: Oh yeah, the adjustment knob lets you feel every click, haven't had a problem wondering if I clicked or not. I click around in groups of 5 so it's an 8 way, heh. In other news, having your car so slammed creates an intense need for "aero" to go full hovercraft mode, despite the fact that you know you don't drive carefully enough to not have it destroyed immediately in that little trench down the street. Last edited by White; 08-29-2005 at 10:06 PM..

08-29-2005, 10:04 PM	#135
s134 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: indianapolis, in Age: 39 Posts: 634 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	great advertising.. makes me wanna sell my other car and current c/os & get these.. __________________

08-30-2005, 09:48 AM	#138
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got mine, no spanner wrenches. packed just like sw20 said. they seem like quality parts, haven't gotten to installing them yet. i kind of miss the dual height adjustability, but we'll see how these perform. quick question, how do you know when you reach full height? is it to the top of the threads on the shock body? edit: and another thing, i put the fronts on last night and with camber plates maxed out, it didn't look like i got that much negative camber. i also made sure that the top slotted spindle mount was pushed all the way in as well. we'll see what the alignment shop says.

08-30-2005, 10:56 AM	#139
defiantmofo Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Prospect Heights, IL Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I could only get -1.8 degrees of negative camber up front. I was hoping for -2.0, but 1.8 is close enough i suppose. The rear i was at about -3.0. I would definetly suggest RUCAS. As far as the clicks go, i think they have a pretty good feeling to them. Compared to my KONIs on my 350z, which have no clicks, i think they seem fine.

08-30-2005, 12:13 PM	#140
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wtf is up with the front camber plates

08-30-2005, 02:24 PM	#141
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	what did all you guys preload them to? im looking at maximum/full height and just wondering what you guys did it at...did you guys get corrosion/rust/dirt on yours? on one of my fronts, where the bottom of the threads meet the lower perch, theres like this corrosion/rust/dirt in between the last thread and the lower mount...how bout you guys? my buddy told me that thats just the shit that comes out when welding... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

08-30-2005, 02:50 PM	#142
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	update: talked to the cool guys at TF. they're sending the spanners out ASAP. great service for sure.

08-31-2005, 02:00 AM	#143
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	update: fully installed, drove around for a bit on full soft. i love them. a tad on the bouncy side on full soft, i'm going to change those settings ntomorrow and get an alignment. i'm almost at full height in the rear and about 2 inches to lowest on the front. tires: 205/50/15 all around. pics, tomorrow.

08-31-2005, 10:43 AM	#144
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just got my wrenches today, putting them on hopefully tonight/ tommorrow. gonna be rockin, now my stock teardrop wheels will look even worse, lol. Whatever. __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

09-01-2005, 12:40 AM	#145
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i want to see it fully slammed!... did any one try it?

09-01-2005, 10:51 AM	#146
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Mine are close to fully slammed, about an inch above iirc. they are low as crap, lol. A friend traded me some swazies, gotta get those on the car and then I'll post some pics. My only gripe with them is the fact the camber plates have no degree marks on them. No other problems in my book so far, they ride pretty well imo, at 20 from soft in front and 30 from soft in the back, gonna knock those rates down alittle and see what happens after work. and an alignment, gotta get one, lol __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

09-01-2005, 11:56 AM	#147
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rear at almost full height, but front is pretty low. why? if i put the front to full height, it is wayyyyy higher in the front.

09-01-2005, 12:05 PM	#148
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Dude, rotate that pic. please, lol. __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

09-01-2005, 12:07 PM	#149
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	There, edited and re-hosted it myself, lol, couldn't stand it. __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

09-01-2005, 03:23 PM	#150
s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hahahah thanks, i didn't even realize.