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Neejay · 08-10-2006, 05:17 PM

So if you got them to install the motor + cost of motor, we're looking at $8k-$10k....bah

**ThatGuy** · 08-10-2006, 05:21 PM

$8K to $10K for ~350hp and up, that is naturally aspirated/reliable. Still sounds like a deal to me.

ledzeppelin240 · 08-10-2006, 06:14 PM

When you break the different systems down even more you will realize you are getting quite a lot. Also not everybody needs Hinson to supply everything, when you can do the wiring that saves $400, doing the subframe mods yourself, used corvette engine mounts, used GT0 oil pan, all these savings will add up. The price is affected by what can be donw by yourself and what has to be paid for.

So I still believe it is completely worth the money, when you start looking at other swaps the LS1 owns...

Neejay · 08-10-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledzeppelin240

When you break the different systems down even more you will realize you are getting quite a lot. Also not everybody needs Hinson to supply everything, when you can do the wiring that saves $400, doing the subframe mods yourself, used corvette engine mounts, used GT0 oil pan, all these savings will add up. The price is affected by what can be donw by yourself and what has to be paid for.

So I still believe it is completely worth the money, when you start looking at other swaps the LS1 owns...

Yeah, see I'd have to pay for everything as I have no garage space or any spot to do anything car related.

I'd rather start out on a better platform though (as far as the car being in good condition already.

ranger2339 · 08-12-2006, 05:43 AM

Im going with all hinson shit..I will be installing it all myself, i just dont have the fab. resources..

I will keep a good log on the cost and keep you guys updated..

Josh

ledzeppelin240 · 08-12-2006, 05:18 PM

Yeah keep a price list, It is kind of a bummer if you don't have the resources or knowledge to do it yourself. But that is where Hinson is awesome you can either do a lot yourself or buy it all and just install.

PXRdriFT · 08-13-2006, 02:58 PM

i'm starting my swap now. i just ordered the basic hinson mounting kit. i was able to find a new gto oilpan off ebay and saved some money that way plus i'm trying to source my own mounts.

ranger2339 · 08-13-2006, 04:03 PM

Hell ya frank!!!

Keep us updated??

Let me know how the insatll kit is and take some pics pppplease!!!

Josh

PXRdriFT · 08-13-2006, 04:19 PM

will do josh. talked to brian on friday and they will start working on my subframe tomorrow.

dans · 08-18-2006, 05:00 AM

Nice to see that folks are really after this swap. I picked up a 95 240 with the gola of turning it into a street/track hybrid and while my first thought was to keep it 4cyl, this makes the move to large cube american power just far too nice to not put on the shopping list. Thanks go to those who are doing this now for being the test bunnies, I and others offer you our thanks.

blu808 · 08-18-2006, 06:33 AM

Make sure you guys that order the hinson stuff, let brian know i sent you. you will get a better deal.

Let me know guys how the swap goes.

I dont want to see any unfineshed projects.

dans · 08-19-2006, 04:28 AM

I wonder if anyone has looked at doing a full custom subframe out of moly with some modified suspension points to imporve geometry?

Nothing like saving weight and improving performance at the same time. Put the big bad V8 on top of it and I'd pay the extra for the performance bump.

ranger2339 · 08-22-2006, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

Make sure you guys that order the hinson stuff, let brian know i sent you. you will get a better deal.

Let me know guys how the swap goes.

I dont want to see any unfineshed projects.

Hey i did and got a discount plus a military one...........

Luke i know your hella busy but i need a weld loc diff soon for a spare, i have a s15 diff but need a spare for events.....

Sooo hows your car luke, you been doing good in FD with that eleswon engine??

Ax

PXRdriFT · 08-23-2006, 11:12 PM

Now I just need Hinson to get cracking on my subframe...

ranger2339 · 08-24-2006, 10:39 AM

Yo frank man looking good, hey did you send them a core subframe???

Where did ya get your engine from??

Ax

Creizai · 08-24-2006, 10:44 AM

Good, to bad cost is to high.

PXRdriFT · 08-24-2006, 11:35 AM

i sent the core on 31 July...

i got the motor from a guy in san diego. i was able to hear it run while it was in the car before buying. came out of an 01 WS6.

Neejay · 08-24-2006, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXRdriFT

i sent the core on 31 July...

i got the motor from a guy in san diego. i was able to hear it run while it was in the car before buying. came out of an 01 WS6.

How much did you pay?

PXRdriFT · 08-24-2006, 02:32 PM

$4500.......

ranger2339 · 08-25-2006, 01:01 PM

Thats about right...Im looking at an 02 SS LS1 for about $4600 shipped to me with harness,ECU, t56 tranny etc.....

I have to get my subframe shipped to hinson asap........

Ax

PXRdriFT · 08-25-2006, 04:16 PM

talked to brian yesterday. the subframe should be done and ready to ship either today or monday. i'll have to call on monday to check status again.

s14shrkeye · 08-26-2006, 07:37 PM

Does the reflash of the ECU provided by Hinson account for the stupid 1st to 4th gear shift on the T56 when you are just giving it alittle gas? I know that they sell a little module in Summitt and other stores that allow you to get full 1st through 6th shifting even when you aren't giving it alot of gas, but I was wondering if the reflash accounted for it. Also, is the swap going to have a fully functioning OBDII port. In upper NY they hook your car into the state computer for the emissions portion of the inspection and the only way I could talk myself into this swap is if all of the engine electronics function as if they were still sitting in the donor camaro/firebird/gto/corvette. If all the systems function this is definitely the swap for me.

ledzeppelin240 · 08-27-2006, 02:18 PM

What do you mean by the shifting, it is a manual transmission. The OBDII port is installed and fully functional if you get the wiring done by HSC or if you know how to do it yourself.

PXRdriFT · 08-27-2006, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14shrkeye

Does the reflash of the ECU provided by Hinson account for the stupid 1st to 4th gear shift on the T56 when you are just giving it alittle gas? I know that they sell a little module in Summitt and other stores that allow you to get full 1st through 6th shifting even when you aren't giving it alot of gas, but I was wondering if the reflash accounted for it. Also, is the swap going to have a fully functioning OBDII port. In upper NY they hook your car into the state computer for the emissions portion of the inspection and the only way I could talk myself into this swap is if all of the engine electronics function as if they were still sitting in the donor camaro/firebird/gto/corvette. If all the systems function this is definitely the swap for me.

not sure if the reflash accounts for it but the rx7 guys cut off the CAGS plug and solder a 2.2K ohm resister between the two cut wires to eliminate the skip shift control.

my wiring harness was just completed today. pretty straight forward. some of the rx7 guys did it for me. my hinson subframe and driveshaft are supposed to be mailed out tomorrow. last major items are the headers.

s14shrkeye · 08-28-2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PXRdriFT

not sure if the reflash accounts for it but the rx7 guys cut off the CAGS plug and solder a 2.2K ohm resister between the two cut wires to eliminate the skip shift control.

my wiring harness was just completed today. pretty straight forward. some of the rx7 guys did it for me. my hinson subframe and driveshaft are supposed to be mailed out tomorrow. last major items are the headers.

Are you going to have your headers enter a y-pipe and terminate as a single exhaust?

ranger2339 · 08-29-2006, 03:58 AM

Sending out my subframe in two days whooo........

I will be using a Y-pipe from hinson and going with a single exit exhaust, i have a s-13...

Frank you think your RX7 guys can hook my harness up, ill IM ya???

Josh

PXRdriFT · 08-29-2006, 06:39 AM

i will be going with a single exhaust as well. i want to utilize the one i have.

josh, no problem. shoot me an im next time i'm on.

SicBastard · 08-29-2006, 02:52 PM

I was looking under a 300zx TT and noticed that the rear anti sway bar had two humps in it to clear a true dual exhaust unlike the s14 one that only has clearance for a single exhaust.

Is the 300zx rear anti sway bar interchangeable with the s14s rear? Is it the same diameter (might even be an upgrade)? If so it might be an easy way to go true dual out the back.

blu808 · 08-29-2006, 04:38 PM

I have tried to put a z32 rear sway on a s14. Dont ask me why.

Anyways that 2nd hump hits the s14 gas tank.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SicBastard

I was looking under a 300zx TT and noticed that the rear anti sway bar had two humps in it to clear a true dual exhaust unlike the s14 one that only has clearance for a single exhaust.

Is the 300zx rear anti sway bar interchangeable with the s14s rear? Is it the same diameter (might even be an upgrade)? If so it might be an easy way to go true dual out the back.

mikespeed95 · 09-01-2006, 02:43 PM

wow, lot of information in this thread....also a lot of misinfo, and things that reallllllllllly make me wonder.

anyways, peopel wanting a ls1 swap, check out http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28

heres some bulid up threads on s chassis on there right now

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565461

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564082

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565336

has anyone actually completed a hinson s13 yet luke with the hood closing, or hte front swaybar clearing the oil pan?? my blower is only 3'' taller than the stock manifold, and it stuck 4.5'' out the top of the hood

j30 rear swaybar can solve problems with exhaust clearance. my ls13 is running dual 3'' exhausts,and sounds like nascar. however i personally on my ls13 arent running any swaybars right now, since i cant get a front one that will clear the oil pan.

for the money, a ls1 stock will throw down about 330rwhp with the mods required to put it in a s chassis. you can get a motor for between 2500-4k if you get off your butt and actually call around, and look. i paid 3500 for my complete motorset, with only 30k miles on it out of an 02 ss camaro.

08-10-2006, 05:21 PM	#122
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$8K to $10K for ~350hp and up, that is naturally aspirated/reliable. Still sounds like a deal to me. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

08-10-2006, 06:14 PM	#123
ledzeppelin240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sinse Posts: 688 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When you break the different systems down even more you will realize you are getting quite a lot. Also not everybody needs Hinson to supply everything, when you can do the wiring that saves $400, doing the subframe mods yourself, used corvette engine mounts, used GT0 oil pan, all these savings will add up. The price is affected by what can be donw by yourself and what has to be paid for. So I still believe it is completely worth the money, when you start looking at other swaps the LS1 owns... __________________ Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. Looking for: JDM S13 OEM Sideskirts

08-12-2006, 05:18 PM	#126
ledzeppelin240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sinse Posts: 688 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah keep a price list, It is kind of a bummer if you don't have the resources or knowledge to do it yourself. But that is where Hinson is awesome you can either do a lot yourself or buy it all and just install. __________________ Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. Looking for: JDM S13 OEM Sideskirts

08-13-2006, 02:58 PM	#127
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm starting my swap now. i just ordered the basic hinson mounting kit. i was able to find a new gto oilpan off ebay and saved some money that way plus i'm trying to source my own mounts. __________________ PXRacing.com

08-13-2006, 04:19 PM	#129
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	will do josh. talked to brian on friday and they will start working on my subframe tomorrow. __________________ PXRacing.com

08-10-2006, 05:17 PM	#121
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 39 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	So if you got them to install the motor + cost of motor, we're looking at $8k-$10k....bah

08-12-2006, 05:43 AM	#125
ranger2339 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: MINNESOTA Age: 43 Posts: 520 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Im going with all hinson shit..I will be installing it all myself, i just dont have the fab. resources.. I will keep a good log on the cost and keep you guys updated.. Josh

08-13-2006, 04:03 PM	#128
ranger2339 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: MINNESOTA Age: 43 Posts: 520 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hell ya frank!!! Keep us updated?? Let me know how the insatll kit is and take some pics pppplease!!! Josh

08-18-2006, 05:00 AM	#130
dans Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central Ohio Age: 54 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nice to see that folks are really after this swap. I picked up a 95 240 with the gola of turning it into a street/track hybrid and while my first thought was to keep it 4cyl, this makes the move to large cube american power just far too nice to not put on the shopping list. Thanks go to those who are doing this now for being the test bunnies, I and others offer you our thanks.

08-18-2006, 06:33 AM	#131
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 42 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Make sure you guys that order the hinson stuff, let brian know i sent you. you will get a better deal. Let me know guys how the swap goes. I dont want to see any unfineshed projects. __________________

08-19-2006, 04:28 AM	#132
dans Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central Ohio Age: 54 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wonder if anyone has looked at doing a full custom subframe out of moly with some modified suspension points to imporve geometry? Nothing like saving weight and improving performance at the same time. Put the big bad V8 on top of it and I'd pay the extra for the performance bump.

08-23-2006, 11:12 PM	#134
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just got it today... Now I just need Hinson to get cracking on my subframe... __________________ PXRacing.com

08-24-2006, 10:39 AM	#135
ranger2339 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: MINNESOTA Age: 43 Posts: 520 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yo frank man looking good, hey did you send them a core subframe??? Where did ya get your engine from?? Ax

08-24-2006, 10:44 AM	#136
Creizai Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati / Gaithersburg Age: 39 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Good, to bad cost is to high.

08-24-2006, 11:35 AM	#137
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i sent the core on 31 July... i got the motor from a guy in san diego. i was able to hear it run while it was in the car before buying. came out of an 01 WS6. __________________ PXRacing.com

08-24-2006, 02:32 PM	#139
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$4500....... __________________ PXRacing.com

08-25-2006, 01:01 PM	#140
ranger2339 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: MINNESOTA Age: 43 Posts: 520 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Thats about right...Im looking at an 02 SS LS1 for about $4600 shipped to me with harness,ECU, t56 tranny etc..... I have to get my subframe shipped to hinson asap........ Ax

08-25-2006, 04:16 PM	#141
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	talked to brian yesterday. the subframe should be done and ready to ship either today or monday. i'll have to call on monday to check status again. __________________ PXRacing.com

08-26-2006, 07:37 PM	#142
s14shrkeye Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NY Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does the reflash of the ECU provided by Hinson account for the stupid 1st to 4th gear shift on the T56 when you are just giving it alittle gas? I know that they sell a little module in Summitt and other stores that allow you to get full 1st through 6th shifting even when you aren't giving it alot of gas, but I was wondering if the reflash accounted for it. Also, is the swap going to have a fully functioning OBDII port. In upper NY they hook your car into the state computer for the emissions portion of the inspection and the only way I could talk myself into this swap is if all of the engine electronics function as if they were still sitting in the donor camaro/firebird/gto/corvette. If all the systems function this is definitely the swap for me.

08-27-2006, 02:18 PM	#143
ledzeppelin240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sinse Posts: 688 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What do you mean by the shifting, it is a manual transmission. The OBDII port is installed and fully functional if you get the wiring done by HSC or if you know how to do it yourself. __________________ Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. Looking for: JDM S13 OEM Sideskirts

08-29-2006, 03:58 AM	#146
ranger2339 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: MINNESOTA Age: 43 Posts: 520 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sending out my subframe in two days whooo........ I will be using a Y-pipe from hinson and going with a single exit exhaust, i have a s-13... Frank you think your RX7 guys can hook my harness up, ill IM ya??? Josh

08-29-2006, 06:39 AM	#147
PXRdriFT Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal 909 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i will be going with a single exhaust as well. i want to utilize the one i have. josh, no problem. shoot me an im next time i'm on. __________________ PXRacing.com

08-29-2006, 02:52 PM	#148
SicBastard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was looking under a 300zx TT and noticed that the rear anti sway bar had two humps in it to clear a true dual exhaust unlike the s14 one that only has clearance for a single exhaust. Is the 300zx rear anti sway bar interchangeable with the s14s rear? Is it the same diameter (might even be an upgrade)? If so it might be an easy way to go true dual out the back. __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html

09-01-2006, 02:43 PM	#150
mikespeed95 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Age: 41 Posts: 179 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow, lot of information in this thread....also a lot of misinfo, and things that reallllllllllly make me wonder. anyways, peopel wanting a ls1 swap, check out http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28 heres some bulid up threads on s chassis on there right now http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565461 http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564082 http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565336 has anyone actually completed a hinson s13 yet luke with the hood closing, or hte front swaybar clearing the oil pan?? my blower is only 3'' taller than the stock manifold, and it stuck 4.5'' out the top of the hood j30 rear swaybar can solve problems with exhaust clearance. my ls13 is running dual 3'' exhausts,and sounds like nascar. however i personally on my ls13 arent running any swaybars right now, since i cant get a front one that will clear the oil pan. for the money, a ls1 stock will throw down about 330rwhp with the mods required to put it in a s chassis. you can get a motor for between 2500-4k if you get off your butt and actually call around, and look. i paid 3500 for my complete motorset, with only 30k miles on it out of an 02 ss camaro. __________________ i like drift racing