Drift entrance techniques/form

[iamtheyi]

Thank you suh. It helps other people who are reading through the thread.

I'm surprised you read through the entire thread actually and found a post that had what clutch kicking was lol. That's pretty GG.

Also, I realize after reading my post that it came across kind douchey. I apologize sir.
GOOD LUCK SLIDING!

[sweeTTurbo]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

Thank you suh. It helps other people who are reading through the thread.

I'm surprised you read through the entire thread actually and found a post that had what clutch kicking was lol. That's pretty GG.

Also, I realize after reading my post that it came across kind douchey. I apologize sir.
GOOD LUCK SLIDING!

Lol, no need in appology, its all good and you did have a good point.

[Chrisk0]

Thank you all very much for the awesome advice. I love reading about these. I haven't drifted enough to give my two cents. If I knew a relatively safe way to learn to drift I'd do it a lot more. Like Flybert said, I am not really big into wrecking my car, and I don't know where to practice. I thought of a course but I don't want to look like an idiot, and every where around my neck of the woods is flooded with police. The first time I ever got to slidin' just a little bit sideways I was freaking out because I had no idea what I was doing.

[whyteboi]

Originally Posted by Chrisk0

Thank you all very much for the awesome advice. I love reading about these. I haven't drifted enough to give my two cents. If I knew a relatively safe way to learn to drift I'd do it a lot more. Like Flybert said, I am not really big into wrecking my car, and I don't know where to practice. I thought of a course but I don't want to look like an idiot, and every where around my neck of the woods is flooded with police. The first time I ever got to slidin' just a little bit sideways I was freaking out because I had no idea what I was doing.

Dude just go to an event. There are people there to help and give you tips. Who cares if you suck. Everyone sucked at some point. Just go out and have fun. You'll learn so much at an event.

[badass8]

Event #2 Nissan 240sx Drifting - YouTube

Second Event Drifting at Grange.
Let me know what you guys think.

[KA240SX808]

Definitely a hard course fir someone still learning.
2 reasons:
- It's real narrow and pretty technical being tight with a lit of switch backs
- Lots of Crap on the track so if you haven't broken the rear end out before you get to the turn, the front justunders

Looks like you need to keep your hands to your self. Or stop trying to chase or help the wheel.
You WILL NOT be able to turn the wheel faster than it can turn itself. Let it do it's thing. Only time you should be reaching for it, is to stop it to keep proper angle for said turn, and to make your adjustments, or to throw the car back the other way.

Also try to keep some of your angles shallow on certain turns. You don't have enough power and pushing grip to have big angles and keep going till the next turn.

Other than that just keep at it. Looks like your having fun lol.

[badass8]

Originally Posted by KA240SX808

Definitely a hard course fir someone still learning.
2 reasons:
- It's real narrow and pretty technical being tight with a lit of switch backs
- Lots of Crap on the track so if you haven't broken the rear end out before you get to the turn, the front justunders

Looks like you need to keep your hands to your self. Or stop trying to chase or help the wheel.
You WILL NOT be able to turn the wheel faster than it can turn itself. Let it do it's thing. Only time you should be reaching for it, is to stop it to keep proper angle for said turn, and to make your adjustments, or to throw the car back the other way.

Also try to keep some of your angles shallow on certain turns. You don't have enough power and pushing grip to have big angles and keep going till the next turn.

Other than that just keep at it. Looks like your having fun lol.

Yeah there was a lot more dirt on the track for this event. It was pretty tough considering my 240sx is on a stock KA24DE couldn't get enough speed or torque to continue a drift for very long, I can only clutch kick so much until it boggs out.

Haha you are totally right my steering is still a bit sloppy. I plan to a bigger track for my next event so I can be more aggressive and not worry about running off the track.
Thank you for the advice Ill keep it in mind for my next event.

[KA240SX808]

Bogs out after clutch kicking? It should sound like it's gonna break, but not bog out lol.

[Sprayberry]

Subd, great advice in this thread for sure!

[aca240]

Got some more video, let me know what you think. I now have Feal 441 coilovers, stealth custom fab braces and got some sticky kumho XS on the front wheels.

[KA240SX808]

3rd run was pretty good.
What's your rear tire specs? Brand/Model? PSI? Size? Wheel Size?
Looks like you could use a little less traction on a bigger course like that for a KA.
Them XS' up front helped a lot in a few situations lol.
You got it, just gatta keep your speed up and angle minimal enough to make it to the next turn but still keep it sideways/traction broken.

[aca240]

Rears are junkyard used tires, most in the 205/50/17 to 225/45/17 range. I went out with my first set at 70psi- felt awesome until the tires exploded on the second lap fml... second set was at 65psi and once again exploded on like the third lap. Then I was on my last set of tires at 36psi because i had to drive home on them and was paranoid.

My number one dilemma right now is whether or not I should buy used vs. new tires. I've been getting used tires for 25$ mounted and balanced but they usually don't last very long, vs when I used to run brand new federal 595's at 70 psi they felt great and lasted longer but cost a shit ton. Any opinions on new vs. used tires?

[iamtheyi]

I run new. Last longer, drive home on the same tires no problem. Use those same tires for dailying for 3 to 4 more months down to nothing. I figure it offsets the cost of used tires for only 4 runs lol

[KA240SX808]

Same, after doing the whole used tire constantly changing them I got over it and figured that I would save atleast $200 by buying new tires and having them mounted once and not have to purchase another pair for atleast 4months.

Not to mention I can run 60psi and not have to worry about the tire exploding. Or having enough tire to drive home on etc.

Your KA sounds like it could use a Tune up or some help.
Any mods as far as that goes?
A simple exhsut shop 3" Exhaust from the Header back and a nice 2.75" Intake can do wonders on a KA. Advance timing to 25* and you should have a nice power increase.

[aca240]

Yea I'm going to buy new for the upcoming event. My KA has zero engine mods, like stock airbox and even stock exhaust. I have a V8 in my garage that I am prepping to drop in so I don't feel like spending any money on the KA. I'm just going to run new tires at high pressure and make sure I don't hot lap too much and pop them.

[KA240SX808]

I thought the minimum requirements for S-Chassis Drifting was:
- Coils
- Welded
- SR
????

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by KA240SX808

I thought the minimum requirements for S-Chassis Drifting was:
- Coils
- Welded
- SR
????

Lol no, there is no minimum or maximum.
Just a large majority of drifters out here will put SR's into their car and build them up or go V8 then go out and drift letting the car do most of the work, then wonder why they are not as good as some of the other drivers who worked their way up.

Technique>Power

[KA240SX808]

Originally Posted by bataangpinoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWkBM3x6-oQ

second run from the day, my clutch was on its last legs. Didn't have the oomph to smoke out my 235/45/17 nexens at 45psi, and you see it bog down in some of the slower stuff.

if i let off the throttle, the car would take off on me as the clutch finally caught up and grabbed.

I'm understeering slightly, my front tire pressure was a bit high, and my rear brake pads are not as grippy as i'd like. i really have to get at it.

I'm going to uppload my first run of the day also, and i would appreciate some pointers. I think if my clutch wasnt slipping, i'd have done alot better.

Fix the clutch and put that 45psi up to 60.
I'm in the same boat as you.
Slipping Clutch and 235/45/17's lol

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

Lol no, there is no minimum or maximum.
Just a large majority of drifters out here will put SR's into their car and build them up or go V8 then go out and drift letting the car do most of the work, then wonder why they are not as good as some of the other drivers who worked their way up.

Technique>Power

Sarcasm

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by KA240SX808

Fix the clutch and put that 45psi up to 60.
I'm in the same boat as you.
Slipping Clutch and 235/45/17's lol
Sarcasm

Im really horrible at catching that online. Sorry.

[KA240SX808]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

Im really horrible at catching that online. Sorry.

All good.
Not gonna lie, had a hard time noticing myself LMAO.

[bataangpinoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWkBM3x6-oQ

second run from the day, my clutch was on its last legs. Didn't have the oomph to smoke out my 235/45/17 nexens at 45psi, and you see it bog down in some of the slower stuff.

if i let off the throttle, the car would take off on me as the clutch finally caught up and grabbed.

I'm understeering slightly, my front tire pressure was a bit high, and my rear brake pads are not as grippy as i'd like. i really have to get at it.

I'm going to uppload my first run of the day also, and i would appreciate some pointers. I think if my clutch wasnt slipping, i'd have done alot better.

[nathanong87]

front wheel work.

[iamtheyi]

So, I am curious, how many of you guys are just drifting off of I/H/E with the stock ka? I'm wondering whether or not to get headers or just save that money for a turbo later.

[josh_schul]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

So, I am curious, how many of you guys are just drifting off of I/H/E with the stock ka? I'm wondering whether or not to get headers or just save that money for a turbo later.

No real need for headers IMO.... save it. My stock KA with a welded diff could spin 235s at 40psi all day long. Def fun to slide. Save the extra cash for boost.

[aca240]

I would just save money for the turbo kit. Pump up the rears and it will be fine.

KA240SX808- I am going to check my timing today on the KA to see if it is off, A couple months ago I replaced the headgasket and never reset the timing, just stabbed the distributor back in where I marked it was when I took it out. So ideally I should bump it to 25 degrees, and then what, run 91 octane? I've been using 87 the whole time.

[KA240SX808]

I am on just a Intake and 248/248 Cam setup right now.
Slides 235/45/17's ok with a VLSD.
If I had atleast a Exhaust and 225/45's I would have no issues what so ever.

No need for the header, it'll just make shit louder with a low power increase unless your dropping money on a Hot Shot or DC then it makes decent gains. Justifiable? Not sure. I would just save for the Turbo setup.

My first S14 was CAI, 3" Exhaust, N60 & AFC Neo.
No issues spinning 235's.

[KA240SX808]

Not if your running 87 lol.
Only if your running premium.
Should feel a nice bump in power.

Anymore timing is all on you.
I accidentally ran ~35+* on my first 14 after forgetting to tighten the bolts for the Dist.
Was fast as shit, didn't detect any WOT Knock but low throttle low RPM sounded like a drum session under my hood.
Don't know how it didn't blow up lol but I still have the motor as running proof lol.

[aca240]

Yep. Turns out my timing was around 12 or 13 degrees BTDC. I upped it to 25 and put some premium in it and it made a HUGE difference. The car pulls noticeably harder.

Also here's a quick video from the last event- the perspective (passenger) makes it harder to see how I'm driving but I will have a more complete video in a couple days.

[KA240SX808]

You should do a little better now because that KA sounds like it's struggling more than it should in that video.

[aca240]

Yeah. In that video I was on accelera alpha's 205/40/17 at 80psi cold and still had trouble!

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