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Sky80 · 11-06-2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flicktitty

And Duy, with the "White Rice" 2JZ-GTE S14 went 6.99 @200 MPH. then went 204MPH in a later pass, apparently, it still has more left in it.

Chris Delgado at Prospeed is who tuned my 2j s14. Amazing tuner, not surprised that car ran that fast

Tom N · 11-20-2017, 09:12 AM

Curious to hear how far anyone using the DSS "600hp" axels have managed to push them with out breaking?

Starting to break stock axels every couple passes now.

hanzbrady · 11-20-2017, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

Curious to hear how far anyone using the DSS "600hp" axels have managed to push them with out breaking?

Starting to break stock axels every couple passes now.

I'm pretty curious about this too since at that power level the realistic weak points become the ring and pinion as well as the stub shafts.

The only value I see int hose 600HP axles is for street cars or drift cars that don't plan on dead hooking 600HP with a sticky tire.

Sforteen · 11-20-2017, 09:26 AM

why even use the DSS axles? small spline still..

hanzbrady · 11-20-2017, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sforteen

why even use the DSS axles? small spline still..

Like I said they make sense on higher HP cars that slip the tire vs hooking it like in a drag car.

Drift cars tend to rip CV joints apart and snap the actual axle so the DSS kit makes sense for that.

I just don't think it's fair to call them "600HP Axles" I'd say they should be called something more along the lines of drift or road race axles.

A 600HP kit for drag racing would at least need to come with better stub shafts imo.

Tom N · 11-20-2017, 09:53 AM

The DSS axels are the easiest way to upgrade a part that’s currently breaking every couple passes.
Just trying to see if there are people actually getting away with using the 600hp ones as there’s a big cost difference between the 600 and 900hp ones.

This is a 600hp SR20 S14 that has a race weight of 2750 and uses a 26x10 ET Street bias ply tire.

hanzbrady · 11-20-2017, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

The DSS axels are the easiest way to upgrade a part that’s currently breaking every couple passes.
Just trying to see if there are people actually getting away with using the 600hp ones as there’s a big cost difference between the 600 and 900hp ones.

This is a 600hp SR20 S14 that has a race weight of 2750 and uses a 26x10 ET Street bias ply tire.

The setup that seems to be the best compromise between price and benefit is the R230 differential with modified stub shafts and 350z axles or a R230 with the Q45 and 300ZX TT axle.

I've personally seen the latter make it until the 1200HP mark.

If it were me and we were ignoring the cost I'd do the IRS 8.8 in a heart beat because it solves every issue at once.

Tom N · 11-20-2017, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hanzbrady

The setup that seems to be the best compromise between price and benefit is the R230 differential with modified stub shafts and 350z axles or a R230 with the Q45 and 300ZX TT axle.

I've personally seen the latter make i until the 1200HP mark.

If it were me and we were ignoring the cost I'd do the IRS 8.8 in a heart beat because it solves every issue at once.

Finding the q45 with proper axels is the hard part. Has to be the later one as a 3.54 gear won't work. Looking for a more simple solution. Fabbing in a 8.8 isn't happening right now.

Tom N · 11-20-2017, 09:59 AM

Also from what I'm told the difference between the 600 and 900hp Axel is the outer cv. The 600 has the Porsche cv on the inside only where the 900 has the Porsche cv on the inner and outer. The rest is the same.
It's the inner cup on stock axels that breaks every time on the driver side axels right now.

greenpat01 · 11-20-2017, 01:28 PM

I would like to know this too , How much the 600hp dss axle on stock s13 r200 diff setup can hold ? 500whp s13 street driven and occasionally 1/4 mile ..

juiced305diesel · 11-25-2017, 02:00 PM

I have a s14 sr20det powered by a pte6262. It currently makes 680ish to the wheels. I have a tomei 2way and dss 600hp axles and i have yet bust them. The car is currently on a 285 nt555r drag radial.

Tom N · 11-25-2017, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by juiced305diesel

I have a s14 sr20det powered by a pte6262. It currently makes 680ish to the wheels. I have a tomei 2way and dss 600hp axles and i have yet bust them. The car is currently on a 285 nt555r drag radial.

What kind of 60 foot do you pull? What’s your cars race weight?

juiced305diesel · 11-26-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom N

What kind of 60 foot do you pull? What’s your cars race weight?

I do not drag race. Car weighs 3080 with me in it full interior fully loaded model.

RedSled · 11-30-2017, 09:14 AM

What will be the most ideal diff ratio for 550hp and a 26x10 et drag slicks

Flicktitty · 11-30-2017, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSled

What will be the most ideal diff ratio for 550hp and a 26x10 et drag slicks

What trans?

BlackZenkiS14 · 05-21-2018, 08:36 AM

Well, figured I'd post this up cause I was happy with it. Went to the drag strip for the first time in years...finally got my 11sec pass!

RedSled · 11-30-2017, 08:19 PM

stock trans might upgrade to z32 but im working with the sr20 trans for now

RedSled · 02-04-2018, 10:40 AM

What's up with this chat now ,has everyone stopped racing or something,this chat was so active with tons of knowledge and experiences and advice

RedSled · 02-04-2018, 10:50 AM

Doubt I'll get a reply or answer ,if I'm lucky might just get one reply ,but anyways here it goes ,presently I'm getting a 1.5 60 feet ,with stock springs and stock shocks ,but it's a lil shaky on top so I'm going to replace the stock springs with lowering springs, can anyone give me their input or experience on this ,and what difference did you get cause I know a couple guys getting 1.4 and 1.5 60 feet with lowering springs ,just curious as to what brand you used and what pros and cons are there compared to the stock springs

Stumped · 03-10-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSled

Doubt I'll get a reply or answer ,if I'm lucky might just get one reply ,but anyways here it goes ,presently I'm getting a 1.5 60 feet ,with stock springs and stock shocks ,but it's a lil shaky on top so I'm going to replace the stock springs with lowering springs, can anyone give me their input or experience on this ,and what difference did you get cause I know a couple guys getting 1.4 and 1.5 60 feet with lowering springs ,just curious as to what brand you used and what pros and cons are there compared to the stock springs

I'm running the cheap megan lowering springs with kyb agx shocks. Front on full loose and rear full tight car goes 1.40 60 on motor with a 27x11.5x15 hoosier quick time pro. Hoping for low 1.30-high1.20s this year on the bottle.

RedSled · 03-11-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumped

I'm running the cheap megan lowering springs with kyb agx shocks. Front on full loose and rear full tight car goes 1.40 60 on motor with a 27x11.5x15 hoosier quick time pro. Hoping for low 1.30-high1.20s this year on the bottle.

thats really impressive ,im doing 1.55 hoping to drop in the next event ,what ratio diff are you running

tuzzio · 02-05-2018, 08:02 AM

Whos running 15x8 drag (specific) wheels in the rear and clearing z32 calipers? Got a buddy looking to do this and can't find anything without running a spacer.

Stumped · 03-10-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tuzzio

Whos running 15x8 drag (specific) wheels in the rear and clearing z32 calipers? Got a buddy looking to do this and can't find anything without running a spacer.

I know a 15x10 with a 6.5 inch backspace clears. I'm sure a 15x8 with 5.5 would also.

Stumped · 03-19-2018, 02:57 AM

That was on a 4.08 swapped into a q45 diff. I actually broke the pinion at the end of last season so I went back to the 3.69 q45 for this year.

RedSled · 03-24-2018, 10:00 AM

Well redid my suspension and also the ratio and got my 60ft to drop to 1.47 ,still got more to go

PowerDrifter · 04-04-2018, 08:42 PM

would 225 mickey thompson street R fit a stock 4 lug se? Some say too big
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/d...es/et-street-r

website says 6" rim minimum but im just worried if it can hold 400 hp

Sforteen · 04-16-2018, 08:54 AM

Im on a 3.69 now and a 28in tire.. hopefully it doesnt kill me to much..

I previously ran my best time (10.14 @ 141mph 1.57 60ft) on a 4.10 and 26in tires..

According to the gear calculator i can finish in 3rd gear instead of having to grab 4th..

RedSled · 04-18-2018, 08:54 PM

but it'll be better to finish in fourth to get more mph which would result in a better et

greenpat01 · 04-28-2018, 09:55 AM

Anyone try some oem 300zx n/a wheel on the back with slick ? on a s13
They are 16x7.5 + 45 .. I will probably rub my coil ?

candyred_240sx · 04-28-2018, 06:41 PM

Ran a new personal best last night. sr22vet, n1 cams, gen 1 gtx3076r .78 @ 30 psi running 65% ethanol.

26 x 10.5 et streets, z32 trans.

Forgot the laptop but next thing to do is figure out why the mph is so low in the top end, still pretty happy with the time and the car wasn't fully turned up.

11-20-2017, 09:12 AM	#2
Tom N Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SW Florida Posts: 746 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Curious to hear how far anyone using the DSS "600hp" axels have managed to push them with out breaking? Starting to break stock axels every couple passes now. __________________ 98 240sx w/ S15 SR20DET, T2 20g, 11.22 @ 124.98

11-20-2017, 09:53 AM	#6
Tom N Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SW Florida Posts: 746 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The DSS axels are the easiest way to upgrade a part that’s currently breaking every couple passes. Just trying to see if there are people actually getting away with using the 600hp ones as there’s a big cost difference between the 600 and 900hp ones. This is a 600hp SR20 S14 that has a race weight of 2750 and uses a 26x10 ET Street bias ply tire. __________________ 98 240sx w/ S15 SR20DET, T2 20g, 11.22 @ 124.98

11-20-2017, 09:59 AM	#9
Tom N Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SW Florida Posts: 746 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Also from what I'm told the difference between the 600 and 900hp Axel is the outer cv. The 600 has the Porsche cv on the inside only where the 900 has the Porsche cv on the inner and outer. The rest is the same. It's the inner cup on stock axels that breaks every time on the driver side axels right now. __________________ 98 240sx w/ S15 SR20DET, T2 20g, 11.22 @ 124.98

11-25-2017, 02:00 PM	#11
juiced305diesel Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dade County Age: 40 Posts: 595 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I have a s14 sr20det powered by a pte6262. It currently makes 680ish to the wheels. I have a tomei 2way and dss 600hp axles and i have yet bust them. The car is currently on a 285 nt555r drag radial. __________________ "Being a SSR wheel nude model is NOT easy, I just make it look like it is!"

05-21-2018, 08:36 AM	#16
BlackZenkiS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "St. Chuck", MO Age: 39 Posts: 2,095 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Well, figured I'd post this up cause I was happy with it. Went to the drag strip for the first time in years...finally got my 11sec pass! __________________ -Kyle

11-20-2017, 09:26 AM	#4
Sforteen Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 333 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why even use the DSS axles? small spline still..

11-20-2017, 01:28 PM	#10
greenpat01 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Quebec Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would like to know this too , How much the 600hp dss axle on stock s13 r200 diff setup can hold ? 500whp s13 street driven and occasionally 1/4 mile ..

11-30-2017, 09:14 AM	#14
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What will be the most ideal diff ratio for 550hp and a 26x10 et drag slicks

11-30-2017, 08:19 PM	#17
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	stock trans might upgrade to z32 but im working with the sr20 trans for now

02-04-2018, 10:40 AM	#18
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What's up with this chat now ,has everyone stopped racing or something,this chat was so active with tons of knowledge and experiences and advice

02-04-2018, 10:50 AM	#19
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Doubt I'll get a reply or answer ,if I'm lucky might just get one reply ,but anyways here it goes ,presently I'm getting a 1.5 60 feet ,with stock springs and stock shocks ,but it's a lil shaky on top so I'm going to replace the stock springs with lowering springs, can anyone give me their input or experience on this ,and what difference did you get cause I know a couple guys getting 1.4 and 1.5 60 feet with lowering springs ,just curious as to what brand you used and what pros and cons are there compared to the stock springs

02-05-2018, 08:02 AM	#22
tuzzio Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,649 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Whos running 15x8 drag (specific) wheels in the rear and clearing z32 calipers? Got a buddy looking to do this and can't find anything without running a spacer.

03-19-2018, 02:57 AM	#24
Stumped Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 45 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That was on a 4.08 swapped into a q45 diff. I actually broke the pinion at the end of last season so I went back to the 3.69 q45 for this year.

03-24-2018, 10:00 AM	#25
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Well redid my suspension and also the ratio and got my 60ft to drop to 1.47 ,still got more to go

04-04-2018, 08:42 PM	#26
PowerDrifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	would 225 mickey thompson street R fit a stock 4 lug se? Some say too big http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/d...es/et-street-r website says 6" rim minimum but im just worried if it can hold 400 hp

04-16-2018, 08:54 AM	#27
Sforteen Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 333 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im on a 3.69 now and a 28in tire.. hopefully it doesnt kill me to much.. I previously ran my best time (10.14 @ 141mph 1.57 60ft) on a 4.10 and 26in tires.. According to the gear calculator i can finish in 3rd gear instead of having to grab 4th..

04-18-2018, 08:54 PM	#28
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	but it'll be better to finish in fourth to get more mph which would result in a better et

04-28-2018, 09:55 AM	#29
greenpat01 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Quebec Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Anyone try some oem 300zx n/a wheel on the back with slick ? on a s13 They are 16x7.5 + 45 .. I will probably rub my coil ?

04-28-2018, 06:41 PM	#30
candyred_240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Langley, BC, Canada Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Ran a new personal best last night. sr22vet, n1 cams, gen 1 gtx3076r .78 @ 30 psi running 65% ethanol. 26 x 10.5 et streets, z32 trans. Forgot the laptop but next thing to do is figure out why the mph is so low in the top end, still pretty happy with the time and the car wasn't fully turned up.