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Enjuku Racing · 01-21-2004, 09:23 AM

Don't have any in stock right now unfortunately, our invoice shows backorder from JIC Magic USA.

They are still starting to figure out what they need to stock for the American market, gotta be patient with them.

Siizzzoooo · 01-21-2004, 09:42 AM

yeah, im in no hurry, i dont plan on driftin till the summer anyway so anytime is good for me

bri96se · 01-21-2004, 09:46 AM

hOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET THEM?

Enjuku Racing · 01-21-2004, 09:59 AM

Unless JIC Magic has them on their next container it'd be one of those 6-8 weeks for the boat to sail in from Japan.

Siizzzoooo · 01-21-2004, 02:41 PM

when is that next container supposed to be in?

theronin · 01-21-2004, 05:03 PM

dude sizzoooo read what enjuku has been posting for the last 3 days.... 6-8 WEEKS!!!!

98sr20ve · 01-21-2004, 05:41 PM

Who the heck is running the group buy? I assume it is "enjuku" can you answer my question back on page 5. Do the FLTA1's come with pillow balls. I don't want to hear this from anyone other then the orginizer of this group buy.

204_240sx · 01-21-2004, 08:48 PM

FLT-A2 for S14

Siizzzoooo · 01-21-2004, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theronin

dude sizzoooo read what enjuku has been posting for the last 3 days.... 6-8 WEEKS!!!!

Do you understand english?

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjuku

Unless JIC Magic has them on their next container it'd be one of those 6-8 weeks for the boat to sail in from Japan.

The way he has it worded, There is a shipment coming in, and if the FLT-A1s arent on THAT shipment, then it will be 6-8 weeks

theronin · 01-21-2004, 08:57 PM

...... on all gb's they are backordered for 6-8 weeks

been said many times

Siizzzoooo · 01-21-2004, 09:46 PM

i think he would've made that clear

mav1178 · 01-21-2004, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjuku

Here is JIC Magic's Warranty policy right off their application guide/price sheet:

Warranty: Most parts are warranted by the manufacturer, usually for NINETY days from the date of purchase. All warranties are included with your order when parts are properly installed nad used under normal conditions. Parts used for racing or competition are warranted against manufacturers' defects only. They are not warranted for wear of breakage under any other circumstances.

What JIC fails to mention that the FLT-A2 is considered to be an "off road" suspension kit and if it fails after you put it on your car for WHATEVER REASON they will not replace it.

In other words, parts are sold "as is" without any warranty since it is for "racing".

-alex

Siizzzoooo · 01-21-2004, 10:47 PM

i think you guys are taking the warantee thing the wrong way.

The warantee SHOULD cover all aspects of workmanship or defects in parts.

They WONT replace it if u blow one of the struts and ect...

correct me if im wrong though

Salty_X · 01-21-2004, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjuku

I would have to special order them so that they can get it on their next container which is due in 6-8 weeks. They will not place an order unless it's prepaid

There is some confusion...

Bri96se isn't talking about the FLT-A1s, he is talking about tie rods, which also happen to be backordered. Apparently there is a container that is coming in soon, and unless there are tie rods in that container, he will have to wait 6-8 weeks for the next container, just like we will have to wait for the FLT-A1s, because the possibility of there being any FLT-A1s on this soon-arriving container is slim to none.

So yeah, from what it looks like there are some (a bunch?) parts on backorder. If the parts people want aren't on the soon-arriving container, they're going to have to wait 6-8 like the rest of us because the JIC's distributers back in Japan are at home

right now...

Salty_X · 01-21-2004, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siizzzoooo

i think you guys are taking the warantee thing the wrong way.
The warantee SHOULD cover all aspects of workmanship or defects in parts.
They WONT replace it if u blow one of the struts and ect...
correct me if im wrong though

Edit: Alex explained it better

mav1178 · 01-21-2004, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siizzzoooo

i think you guys are taking the warantee thing the wrong way.

The warantee SHOULD cover all aspects of workmanship or defects in parts.

They WONT replace it if u blow one of the struts and ect...

correct me if im wrong though

Oh how I wish that was the case!

Once you install a part that is designated for "off road use only" if anything happens beyond that initial installation YOU are responsible for anything that happens. The only way JIC can be held responsible is if YOU prove that THEIR part is defective.

This way, their ass is covered and you have to do all the hard work to prove your case if in fact something fails.

Trust me, this is something I do everyday.

-alex

Salty_X · 01-21-2004, 11:12 PM

Yeah Alex explained it better than I did. Even defects aren't covered once the part goes on...

If there is a defect, unless you notice it before you put the part on you're out of luck, because it's going to be impossible to prove to JIC that it broke because of a defect, especially when you're using the part outside of the specified parameters (example: driving around on the street with your "race-only" coilovers).

Siizzzoooo · 01-22-2004, 12:21 AM

bahhh, i guess thats gonna scare everyone away.

so then what manufacturer covers shit like that then?

mav1178 · 01-22-2004, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siizzzoooo

bahhh, i guess thats gonna scare everyone away.

so then what manufacturer covers shit like that then?

Some manufacturers have warranty that covers defects in the product for normal street use, but have clauses stating that racing/competition voids the warranty. HKS USA is one example.

To be honest it's all about the support the manufacturer provides; even if it was "race only" some sort of support should be provided to the end-user and as far as that is concerned so far only Tein USA has done an acceptable job of catering to their customers.

Just make sure you guys know what you are getting into before you buy, that's all I have to say.

-alex

goixiz · 01-22-2004, 05:44 AM

Currently have an S13 SR20DET (if it makes any difference)

I have a 1990 204SX SE HAtchback

98sr20ve · 01-22-2004, 08:04 AM

I talked to enjuka and he confirmed they come with pillow balls. I am in for a set of A1's with the stock spring rates. Let me know if I need to do anything else. I will wait to hear from you about when to send the money. S13 Please

SkylineDriven · 01-22-2004, 09:06 AM

I didnt feel like reading all the 6 pages so if this is already posted somewhere, tell me which page.... I have money. I don't mind the wait... that being said, I would like to participate in this GB (already talked to CIP and Jeff told me everyone backed out of his)... how many people are CONFIRMED to be on this GB? I want the free shipping dangit.

98sr20ve · 01-22-2004, 09:45 AM

You may want to list which Item you are interested in. The group buy includes a variety of JIC items. I hope you are interested in the FLTA1's. We need more people to commit to that. I just did.

SkylineDriven · 01-22-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98sr20ve

You may want to list which Item you are interested in. The group buy includes a variety of JIC items. I hope you are interested in the FLTA1's. We need more people to commit to that. I just did.

Oh my bad...didnt know there was more than one item.... yes I want the FLT-A1's for the S13. I'll give Jason an email.

Enjuku Racing · 01-22-2004, 12:08 PM

Guys I just had another conversation with JIC Magic USA -

Unfortunately (even though I am planning to do over a $9000 dollar order) they will not do free freight for the shipment. So now it is nearly impossible for me to offer free shipping, regardless of the amount of orders I can get. I really apologize for this, but as with the other group buy, there is a lot more frustration involved with the 6-8 week wait, JIC Magic USA not stocking these items, etc.

If you still wish to order them and pay the $905.99 + shipping price, you can feel free to email me or gie me a call. Again, we really apologize for this inconvenience but it has gotten a little too out of hand and it is going to be really difficult to organize 10 prepaid orders for coilovers when JIC Magic USA will not do free fright or drop ship for me. In summary, I would have to pay for shipping for 10 sets of coilovers from California to Florida, then ship out each set individually to you guys. Shipping alone would be around $100 if that was the case for each set. Again, we're really sorry but if you are still interested in individually ordering the products at the pricing I have listed on this post - please feel free to PM me, email me or call me.

nlzmo400r · 01-22-2004, 03:22 PM

flt-a2 s14

driftz240sx · 01-22-2004, 05:04 PM

Good thing i live in florida, i can go pick it up. Wait, will you charge tax to florida residents?

98sr20ve · 01-22-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftz240sx

Good thing i live in florida, i can go pick it up. Wait, will you charge tax to florida residents?

Geez, I don't think he has a choice.

Enjuku Racing · 01-23-2004, 07:51 AM

Yes, we will have to charge tax to all Florida residents and sales.

AzNCmB · 01-23-2004, 10:47 AM

how much would shipping be to zip code 70058? I'm a little bit interested and i need some more info. Do we still pay a down payment, then when the suspensions arrive to enjuku, that's when we pay the rest of the payment? how much is the down payment?

If the down payment is not too much then i could pay that and save up some more money during the wait time..

Thanks

01-21-2004, 09:23 AM	#151
Enjuku Racing Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Age: 40 Posts: 3,049 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Don't have any in stock right now unfortunately, our invoice shows backorder from JIC Magic USA. They are still starting to figure out what they need to stock for the American market, gotta be patient with them. __________________ Office: 352-241-8399 / 1-888-SR20DET (772-0338) YouTube.com/c/EnjukuRacingParts http://www.enjukuracing.com [email protected]

01-21-2004, 09:42 AM	#152
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, im in no hurry, i dont plan on driftin till the summer anyway so anytime is good for me __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

01-21-2004, 09:59 AM	#154
Enjuku Racing Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Age: 40 Posts: 3,049 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Unless JIC Magic has them on their next container it'd be one of those 6-8 weeks for the boat to sail in from Japan. __________________ Office: 352-241-8399 / 1-888-SR20DET (772-0338) YouTube.com/c/EnjukuRacingParts http://www.enjukuracing.com [email protected]

01-21-2004, 02:41 PM	#155
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	when is that next container supposed to be in? __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

01-21-2004, 09:46 PM	#161
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think he would've made that clear __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

01-21-2004, 09:46 AM	#153
bri96se Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DULUTH , GA Age: 48 Posts: 121 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET THEM?

01-21-2004, 05:41 PM	#157
98sr20ve Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampton Posts: 156 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Who the heck is running the group buy? I assume it is "enjuku" can you answer my question back on page 5. Do the FLTA1's come with pillow balls. I don't want to hear this from anyone other then the orginizer of this group buy.

01-21-2004, 08:48 PM	#158
204_240sx Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FLT-A2 for S14

01-21-2004, 10:47 PM	#163
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think you guys are taking the warantee thing the wrong way. The warantee SHOULD cover all aspects of workmanship or defects in parts. They WONT replace it if u blow one of the struts and ect... correct me if im wrong though __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

01-21-2004, 11:12 PM	#167
Salty_X Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Modesto Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah Alex explained it better than I did. Even defects aren't covered once the part goes on... If there is a defect, unless you notice it before you put the part on you're out of luck, because it's going to be impossible to prove to JIC that it broke because of a defect, especially when you're using the part outside of the specified parameters (example: driving around on the street with your "race-only" coilovers). __________________

01-22-2004, 12:21 AM	#168
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bahhh, i guess thats gonna scare everyone away. so then what manufacturer covers shit like that then? __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

01-22-2004, 05:44 AM	#170
goixiz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interested in the FLTA2 for 1990 240sx sE Currently have an S13 SR20DET (if it makes any difference) I have a 1990 204SX SE HAtchback

01-22-2004, 08:04 AM	#171
98sr20ve Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampton Posts: 156 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I talked to enjuka and he confirmed they come with pillow balls. I am in for a set of A1's with the stock spring rates. Let me know if I need to do anything else. I will wait to hear from you about when to send the money. S13 Please

01-22-2004, 09:06 AM	#172
SkylineDriven Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I didnt feel like reading all the 6 pages so if this is already posted somewhere, tell me which page.... I have money. I don't mind the wait... that being said, I would like to participate in this GB (already talked to CIP and Jeff told me everyone backed out of his)... how many people are CONFIRMED to be on this GB? I want the free shipping dangit. __________________ TractionOptional (dot) com

01-22-2004, 09:45 AM	#173
98sr20ve Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampton Posts: 156 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You may want to list which Item you are interested in. The group buy includes a variety of JIC items. I hope you are interested in the FLTA1's. We need more people to commit to that. I just did.

01-22-2004, 12:08 PM	#175
Enjuku Racing Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Age: 40 Posts: 3,049 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Guys I just had another conversation with JIC Magic USA - Unfortunately (even though I am planning to do over a $9000 dollar order) they will not do free freight for the shipment. So now it is nearly impossible for me to offer free shipping, regardless of the amount of orders I can get. I really apologize for this, but as with the other group buy, there is a lot more frustration involved with the 6-8 week wait, JIC Magic USA not stocking these items, etc. If you still wish to order them and pay the $905.99 + shipping price, you can feel free to email me or gie me a call. Again, we really apologize for this inconvenience but it has gotten a little too out of hand and it is going to be really difficult to organize 10 prepaid orders for coilovers when JIC Magic USA will not do free fright or drop ship for me. In summary, I would have to pay for shipping for 10 sets of coilovers from California to Florida, then ship out each set individually to you guys. Shipping alone would be around $100 if that was the case for each set. Again, we're really sorry but if you are still interested in individually ordering the products at the pricing I have listed on this post - please feel free to PM me, email me or call me. __________________ Office: 352-241-8399 / 1-888-SR20DET (772-0338) YouTube.com/c/EnjukuRacingParts http://www.enjukuracing.com [email protected]

01-22-2004, 03:22 PM	#176
nlzmo400r Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	flt-a2 s14

01-22-2004, 05:04 PM	#177
driftz240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 37 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good thing i live in florida, i can go pick it up. Wait, will you charge tax to florida residents?

01-23-2004, 07:51 AM	#179
Enjuku Racing Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Age: 40 Posts: 3,049 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Yes, we will have to charge tax to all Florida residents and sales. __________________ Office: 352-241-8399 / 1-888-SR20DET (772-0338) YouTube.com/c/EnjukuRacingParts http://www.enjukuracing.com [email protected]

01-23-2004, 10:47 AM	#180
AzNCmB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 40 Posts: 1,144 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	how much would shipping be to zip code 70058? I'm a little bit interested and i need some more info. Do we still pay a down payment, then when the suspensions arrive to enjuku, that's when we pay the rest of the payment? how much is the down payment? If the down payment is not too much then i could pay that and save up some more money during the wait time.. Thanks