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Old 08-13-2008, 11:54 PM   #181
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dear sweet jesus... I'm going to take out a 5,000 loan so I can do that to an s13...

In all seriousness though I wish I could do that. So clean, so fresh.
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:51 AM   #183
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MOOOOAAARRR!!!!! that has to be the nicest red ive ever seen on any car, great project
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:34 AM   #184
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Thanks guys, Ill have more updates hopefully tonight, been really busy here at the shop as well as working on the car.
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I would love to have brackets for my FMIC on my S13.5, lmk if you can fab me up some.
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:20 PM   #186
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:36 AM   #187
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A tittie bouncer for sure. that car is sex all around. good job dude.
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Subscribed, cant wait to see more,

I think the hood looks just fine, when its all done you decide if you like how it looks, nevermind what others think!
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:47 PM   #189
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:04 PM   #190
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Thanks fellas, and yes it will be hitting the track.

With the help of my friends I work with at the shop. They wet sanded and buffed the car for me so I could work on other things that needed done.



After the car was wetsanded


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Also installed all of the Interior back in the car as well, since the wiring is now finished.


Friday afternoon the glass guys came over and installed the new windsheild and seal and pulled the rear window to reseal it and installed a new seal in it as well.







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park side by side a real s14 please, i want to see the diff in the width.
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:31 AM   #194
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Great motivating build....Just got my daily driver 89 S13 coupe RB20 swap running...Yeh Yeh I heard it from my friends how an SR20 is so great....

But there is no better sound then an RB20 with an HKS header back....It sounds so mean and turns plenty of heads..
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:17 AM   #196
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:35 PM   #197
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so wait im confused, you had your car painted and looked great. then you wet sanded the good paint then buffed it to make it look good again? sorry for sounding so noob!
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jeez im afraid to put an exhaust on my DD rb20... i dont want any attention.. at ALL
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so wait im confused, you had your car painted and looked great. then you wet sanded the good paint then buffed it to make it look good again? sorry for sounding so noob!
wet sanding is needed to get rid of the orange peel. rubbing compound brings out the shine.
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+1 on the next to a s14:P. . but seriously i envy that color! that shit is fucking fireeeeee
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great paint work my friend can't wait to see it with some decent fitting wheels on it.
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thank you! so wet sanding doesn't mess up the nice paint? barely scratches the surface or what?
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Sure, fresh paint looks nice from a distance, but you look up close and its textured hella. Wet sanding smooths out the clear coat (makes the paint flat) Rubbing compound brings out the shine.

Wet sanding does stratch the paint, but not like rocks or anything. Were talking 2500 grit sandpaper. Doesn't feel any different than a sheet of paper.
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Thanks Fellas.

And to answer your wet sanding and buffing questions. The car is actually wet sanded with 1000 to start with. You need to make sure the car has a good amount of clearcoat before using a 1000 or you can go through it quickly an into the basecoat and thats bad...lol. This cuts it down pretty quick and removes any dirt that might be in the clear. After the car has been wet sanded with 1000, it was followed up with 2000 to remove the scratches the 1000 leaves behind(very minimal) after that the car was wet sanded with 3000 which does feel like notebook paper but helps in making the car look like glass.

After the sanding is finished the car is buffed with a wool pad and we use 3m Rubbing Compound, this helps bring the finish back to the car. After the the rubbing compound is done we then went over the car with 3m PerfectIt Foam Polish. For this step you need to ditch the wool pad and go with a soft foam pad, this is basically a clean up ordeal. It removes the haziness that compound will leave behind and makes the car shine like no other.

I can do a small how to write up for those who might be interested. Thanks again.

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I have seen this car in person and pictures do not do it justce the paint is perfect and the attention to detail is like to other. Seth I'm glad to see your car getting done man you deserve it. (anyone notice the mirrors)
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