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BriinumsBo · 03-26-2010, 07:24 AM

Toyota announced the FT-86 for early 2012. I think the car will be released by the end of 2011, if people stop bitchin about the gas pedal on Prius..

some official sketch:

Full press release for FT-86 during Geneva Motor Show 2010, official pics & videos

*exitspeed* · 03-26-2010, 08:48 AM

We've been talking about that car for almost a year in this thread.

I think most of us went over to Toyobaru to discuss it further so it hasn't been brought on here for a bit.

PRADOgy · 03-26-2010, 09:46 AM

Which ever car comes with this Direct injected 1600 cc rotary engine

MAZDA:16X | The Rotary Engine

holemilk00 · 04-14-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

Do not care if this is a totally independent photoshop made by someone at home and that it will never happen, I still wish it would look like this.

This would sell, I know its just someones PS, but this by far to me looks the best of anything suggested so far, and definitely looks like the next step in the progression from the S15.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 04-14-2010, 11:18 AM

oi...brought back from the dead for no reason

*kingkilburn* · 04-14-2010, 11:40 AM

That picture should be against the rules. We have all seen it and if people READ THE THREAD they would know it has been discussed to death.

holemilk00 · 04-14-2010, 11:41 AM

Haha sorry to have gotten your hopes up for an update. :/

SimpleS14 · 04-14-2010, 06:10 PM

So the bump of this thread is not fail.....

The prototype for the "M" edition 1 series has been spotted.

More info: Spy Shots and Video: BMW M1/1 Series M laps the 'Ring — Autoblog

This car is obviously out of our league, but it is a RWD coupe

...the Ferrari 599xx!!

Pics: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ferra...-park/#2887375

*kingkilburn* · 04-14-2010, 07:54 PM

Holy fender flare Batman.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 04-14-2010, 09:19 PM

yeah but seriously...who has the money for an M series BMW on this forum? lol

*exitspeed* · 04-14-2010, 09:23 PM

Seriously though, I'm not interested in a $45k+ 1 series. A 135 is $40+. That car just doesn't interest me. I'd rather have a Gen V6 Coupe.

upsdude · 04-14-2010, 11:14 PM

time to start saving up for the new 'yota

*kingkilburn* · 04-14-2010, 11:36 PM

I really like the 1 series but that looks odd and unbalanced.

*exitspeed* · 04-15-2010, 08:14 AM

That's just a test mule though. Those aren't stock fenders. I don't even think the fenders will be that shape.

Quote:

Originally Posted by filiperuvian

time to start saving up for the new 'yota

This.

SimpleS14 · 04-15-2010, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

yeah but seriously...who has the money for an M series BMW on this forum? lol

The title doesn't mention "affordable" lol

Besides, someone on this forum can pick one up in 5 years.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 05-09-2010, 08:15 PM

thought you guys might get a kick out of this if you havent seen it already...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/320686-240s...speak-out.html

please repost this on any forums that you post on for people to see

ronmcdon · 05-09-2010, 09:37 PM

135 is closer to 36k.
I don't think it's unreasonably priced given many of the competitors are similarly priced.
IIRC, it's also the only forced induction rwd car that makes around 300hp.
The closest fi rwd car in price range & peformance is the 2.0 genesis & 335.

It only becomes a rip-off when you throw on a shitload of options.
(if thats the case, you only have yourself to blame).

If I were to get some new rwd car today, it would be either 370z Sport or a '11 Mustang GT.
I'd prefer getting a larger displacement NA car for a change.

sephiroth99 · 05-10-2010, 10:52 PM

some rumors from Road and Track

Toyota would be planning a sub-$20k RWD car with a small 1.5 liter 109hp engine, to fill the gap left by the $20k+ FT-86

Toyota Working On a Baby FT-86

If the chassis and handling are good, I could see that as a fun, economical little car. Could be used daily and occasionally on the track.

simmode1 · 05-10-2010, 11:04 PM

Jesus Christ... 109hp?! Even stock 1.6L 1st gen Miata's would be faster than that...

*kingkilburn* · 05-10-2010, 11:29 PM

How on earth would a modern 1.5 only make 109hp?

sephiroth99 · 05-10-2010, 11:39 PM

I thought it could be the Yaris' engine (1,5L 110hp) but that's the 1NZ-FE, and the article states it would be the 3SZ-VE. Anyway, it is low on hp, hoping the weight will be low enough to compensate.

PRADOgy · 05-10-2010, 11:41 PM

If that 1.5 is true. Im all about that shit!

rwd small displacement and cheap price. Theres going to be a lot of support for this IMO

DenkiMan! · 05-11-2010, 12:02 AM

it better beast on mpg lol

ronmcdon · 05-11-2010, 12:08 AM

yeah it's likely a fuel miser, prob to ease in CAFE requirements.

simmode1 · 05-11-2010, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRADOgy

If that 1.5 is true. Im all about that shit!

rwd small displacement and cheap price. Theres going to be a lot of support for this IMO

I dunno, man... I can't really imagine this car weighing less than an S-Chassis. Only having 109hp on tap is gonna suck balls. Imagine how much boost you're gonna have to throw at it just to break 200whp? And torque is gonna be ass...

I think it might be a decent seller for ppl worried about gas mileage and whatnot but it ain't gonna be a hot car for the aftermarket, IMO. Like a non-turbo Subaru Impreza. Who would dump money into a regular Impreza when it'll never really match the performance of a WRX or STI models?

Maybe when they get dirt cheap, it might be a good swap candidate depending the weight difference between the different models...

ronmcdon · 05-11-2010, 12:25 AM

FI 1.5 might have potential
(Cooper S turbo isn't so terrible, for instance)
NA 1.5, forget about it.

Then again not everyone gives a rat's ass about performance.
Business is business (not that it's a bad thing).
You can't expect manufacturers to revolve primarly around enthusiasts.

*kingkilburn* · 05-11-2010, 12:29 AM

A 1.5 would make a killer base model as far as CAFE regulations go.

Add a 2.0 mid range and a VQ25VHRT for the top and we are good to go.

BriinumsBo · 05-11-2010, 12:44 AM

its rumors. period.

even the slowest of Lotus Elise has 120hp, but its at 800-900kg weight. arghhh, dont even want to think about it anymore. its rumors & bullsh!t, dont bother.

DenkiMan! · 05-11-2010, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

I dunno, man... I can't really imagine this car weighing less than an S-Chassis. Only having 109hp on tap is gonna suck balls. Imagine how much boost you're gonna have to throw at it just to break 200whp? And torque is gonna be ass...

sounds like the symptoms of an AE to me lol...

thrax · 06-23-2010, 02:54 PM

Honda to make rear-mid engine FT competitor?

Honda Planning Toyota FR-S/FT-86 Competitor, Combining S2000 and Beat | AutoGuide.com News

03-26-2010, 07:24 AM	#2131
BriinumsBo Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Latvia Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Toyota announced the FT-86 for early 2012. I think the car will be released by the end of 2011, if people stop bitchin about the gas pedal on Prius.. some official sketch: Full press release for FT-86 during Geneva Motor Show 2010, official pics & videos __________________ mr2 st185 ft86 Last edited by BriinumsBo; 12-06-2010 at 01:37 AM..

03-26-2010, 08:48 AM	#2132
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	We've been talking about that car for almost a year in this thread. I think most of us went over to Toyobaru to discuss it further so it hasn't been brought on here for a bit. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-26-2010, 09:46 AM	#2133
PRADOgy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Japan Age: 38 Posts: 1,161 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PRADOgy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which ever car comes with this Direct injected 1600 cc rotary engine MAZDA:16X \| The Rotary Engine __________________ しょうがない

04-14-2010, 11:18 AM	#2135
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,492 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	oi...brought back from the dead for no reason __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

04-14-2010, 11:40 AM	#2136
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That picture should be against the rules. We have all seen it and if people READ THE THREAD they would know it has been discussed to death. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

04-14-2010, 11:41 AM	#2137
holemilk00 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 2,485 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Haha sorry to have gotten your hopes up for an update. :/ __________________ I had a cool signature

04-14-2010, 06:10 PM	#2138
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 41 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So the bump of this thread is not fail..... The prototype for the "M" edition 1 series has been spotted. More info: Spy Shots and Video: BMW M1/1 Series M laps the 'Ring — Autoblog This car is obviously out of our league, but it is a RWD coupe ...the Ferrari 599xx!! Pics: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ferra...-park/#2887375 __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

04-14-2010, 07:54 PM	#2139
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Holy fender flare Batman. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

04-14-2010, 09:19 PM	#2140
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,492 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	yeah but seriously...who has the money for an M series BMW on this forum? lol __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

04-14-2010, 09:23 PM	#2141
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Seriously though, I'm not interested in a $45k+ 1 series. A 135 is $40+. That car just doesn't interest me. I'd rather have a Gen V6 Coupe. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

04-14-2010, 11:14 PM	#2142
upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	time to start saving up for the new 'yota

04-14-2010, 11:36 PM	#2143
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I really like the 1 series but that looks odd and unbalanced. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-09-2010, 08:15 PM	#2146
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,492 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	thought you guys might get a kick out of this if you havent seen it already... http://zilvia.net/f/chat/320686-240s...speak-out.html please repost this on any forums that you post on for people to see __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

05-09-2010, 09:37 PM	#2147
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	135 is closer to 36k. I don't think it's unreasonably priced given many of the competitors are similarly priced. IIRC, it's also the only forced induction rwd car that makes around 300hp. The closest fi rwd car in price range & peformance is the 2.0 genesis & 335. It only becomes a rip-off when you throw on a shitload of options. (if thats the case, you only have yourself to blame). If I were to get some new rwd car today, it would be either 370z Sport or a '11 Mustang GT. I'd prefer getting a larger displacement NA car for a change.

05-10-2010, 10:52 PM	#2148
sephiroth99 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Montréal, Canada Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	some rumors from Road and Track Toyota would be planning a sub-$20k RWD car with a small 1.5 liter 109hp engine, to fill the gap left by the $20k+ FT-86 Toyota Working On a Baby FT-86 If the chassis and handling are good, I could see that as a fun, economical little car. Could be used daily and occasionally on the track.

05-10-2010, 11:04 PM	#2149
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jesus Christ... 109hp?! Even stock 1.6L 1st gen Miata's would be faster than that...

05-10-2010, 11:29 PM	#2150
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How on earth would a modern 1.5 only make 109hp? __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-10-2010, 11:39 PM	#2151
sephiroth99 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Montréal, Canada Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I thought it could be the Yaris' engine (1,5L 110hp) but that's the 1NZ-FE, and the article states it would be the 3SZ-VE. Anyway, it is low on hp, hoping the weight will be low enough to compensate.

05-10-2010, 11:41 PM	#2152
PRADOgy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Japan Age: 38 Posts: 1,161 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PRADOgy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If that 1.5 is true. Im all about that shit! rwd small displacement and cheap price. Theres going to be a lot of support for this IMO __________________ しょうがない

05-11-2010, 12:02 AM	#2153
DenkiMan! Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: emmdee Age: 33 Posts: 772 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: DenkiMan! Feedback Score: 7 reviews	it better beast on mpg lol

05-11-2010, 12:08 AM	#2154
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	yeah it's likely a fuel miser, prob to ease in CAFE requirements.

05-11-2010, 12:25 AM	#2156
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	FI 1.5 might have potential (Cooper S turbo isn't so terrible, for instance) NA 1.5, forget about it. Then again not everyone gives a rat's ass about performance. Business is business (not that it's a bad thing). You can't expect manufacturers to revolve primarly around enthusiasts.

05-11-2010, 12:29 AM	#2157
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A 1.5 would make a killer base model as far as CAFE regulations go. Add a 2.0 mid range and a VQ25VHRT for the top and we are good to go. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-11-2010, 12:44 AM	#2158
BriinumsBo Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Latvia Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its rumors. period. even the slowest of Lotus Elise has 120hp, but its at 800-900kg weight. arghhh, dont even want to think about it anymore. its rumors & bullsh!t, dont bother. __________________ mr2 st185 ft86 Last edited by BriinumsBo; 12-06-2010 at 01:39 AM..

06-23-2010, 02:54 PM	#2160
thrax Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Honda to make rear-mid engine FT competitor? Honda Planning Toyota FR-S/FT-86 Competitor, Combining S2000 and Beat \| AutoGuide.com News