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GSXRJJordan · 09-22-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duffman1278

Those first 2 photos look really good but how's the penetration?

The shape of the bead (concave) and the discoloration of the base metal tells me that's it's probably great, and looks even across the weld as well - I'm far from an expert though...

I agree about the thick stuff being more enjoyable, I feel so good when I'm welding 1/8"+ cause I can pour so much heat into the material and go slow, and get some nice looking welds lol.

Too much of what I've done is sheet metal - all my welds are functional, but only about half are good looking enough to show off lol.

S14_Kouki · 09-23-2009, 08:08 PM

Just got done mocking up WG

helladudebro · 09-24-2009, 10:55 PM

hey guys sorry i dont have anything to post up...yet. im about to start a welding class at my college and need some opinions on welding helmets/jackets. anyone have any good recommendations for someone just starting? I welded in high school but all the gear was supplied.

pics of my hopefully awesome welds to come!

oh first post too

GSXRJJordan · 09-24-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helladudebro

hey guys sorry i dont have anything to post up...yet. im about to start a welding class at my college and need some opinions on welding helmets/jackets. anyone have any good recommendations for someone just starting? I welded in high school but all the gear was supplied.

pics of my hopefully awesome welds to come!

oh first post too

Nice first post! lol. College should have welding aprons or something like that... canvas (jeans material) works well, and is cheap. I usually only wear something other than just gloves and a helmet if I'm welding in a really tight spot and don't want to get burned like crazy.

For helmets, I got a Harbor Freight auto-dimming one for free, it's actually totally decent. Lens is replaceable and the dimming speed and intensity is adjustable. Retails for $50... if you think you're going to be welding for a bit, definitely look into some nicer ones, if just for comparison's sake.

helladudebro · 09-24-2009, 11:30 PM

yea usually id just wear a sweat shirt or something (i know not the smartest thing to do) but a leather jacket is required.

also i am going to be buying a welder of my own in the next couple months so id like to get a helmet that is decent but not to expensive.

duffman1278 · 09-24-2009, 11:49 PM

I've used the harbor freight one and for 50$ I honestly couldn't complain as it did it's job pretty good however the thing I didn't like about it was that the face part just seems to stick out pretty far. I used a different mask that my school had and I was able to get into tighter spots and look at my welds closer, since I was TIG welding a chasis and the tubing can create some small spaces to work in.

I heard these are really great, obviously because they're miller but just the overall use of it.

Miller - Performance™ Series Welding Helmets

drftmark · 09-25-2009, 12:56 AM

Question:

I had to leave my 220v mig at my other house.

New house does not have a welder, but Harbor Freight has a 110v mig for less than $80.

Just really want it to weld a camera bracket on my cage to film in-cabin runs and for exhaust and other misc brackets. Will this cut it?

I would also like to be able to weld aluminum pipe, but a mig setup for aluminum costs a lot of money. So if I bought a stick welder instead can they even weld aluminum? I thought I remembered seeing some AL sticks at tractor supply one time, and no, not those propane torch AL sticks.

STR8E180 · 09-25-2009, 02:35 AM

we just finished of a twin scroll turbo kit 2day so thought i would post up some pictures of it

turned out very nice
merge collector manifold
runners are pretty close to being the same length
twin tial external gates

anyways ill let the pictures do the rest of the talking

Om1kron · 09-25-2009, 03:36 AM

interesting, do the wastegates operate any differently being further apart (stupid question maybe)

STR8E180 · 09-25-2009, 06:19 AM

not that i know of
we have done a few setups and neva had any boost control problems

*Jonnie Fraz* · 09-25-2009, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftmark

Question:

I had to leave my 220v mig at my other house.

New house does not have a welder, but Harbor Freight has a 110v mig for less than $80.

Just really want it to weld a camera bracket on my cage to film in-cabin runs and for exhaust and other misc brackets. Will this cut it?

I would also like to be able to weld aluminum pipe, but a mig setup for aluminum costs a lot of money. So if I bought a stick welder instead can they even weld aluminum? I thought I remembered seeing some AL sticks at tractor supply one time, and no, not those propane torch AL sticks.

Skip the Harbor Freght welder...you will hate it. Stick with the name brands...Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, Esab...ect. You will thank me.

Welding Aluminum is tricky work with anything other than TIG. Spool guns are nice for heavy work, but require a ton of power, not realy 110v friendly.

S14_Kouki · 09-25-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helladudebro

hey guys sorry i dont have anything to post up...yet. im about to start a welding class at my college and need some opinions on welding helmets/jackets. anyone have any good recommendations for someone just starting? I welded in high school but all the gear was supplied.

pics of my hopefully awesome welds to come!

oh first post too

lol supplies I just wear a tshirt and a lincoln auto dark I know its really bad for me but o well

longfellow · 09-25-2009, 04:17 PM

You get used to the splatter burns eventually.

I just wear gloves and a auto-dark helmet.

S14_Kouki · 09-25-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by longfellow

You get used to the splatter burns eventually.

I just wear gloves and a auto-dark helmet.

Yup you just get use to it and dont burn. But for the love of god do not get flash burn.

atutt · 09-25-2009, 08:07 PM

^If you guys aren't covering up bare skin, you guys are idiots. Whether you burn or not.

It's probably one of the DUMBEST things ANY welder can do.

I've been doing this for 6-7 years. I NEVER go uncovered. Even when it's +60*C (we have unbelievably high humidity where I live. Enough to add over 10*C) in the shop.

I don't always wear my stupid heavy leather jacket. When I'm doing light stuff I put on a t-shirt, work shirt, and then some light leather sleeves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnie Fraz

Skip the Harbor Freght welder...you will hate it. Stick with the name brands...Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, Esab...ect. You will thank me.

Welding Aluminum is tricky work with anything other than TIG. Spool guns are nice for heavy work, but require a ton of power, not realy 110v friendly.

Quoted for truth!

When I've done MIG aluminum it's never been on a power source LESS than 460v (used up to a 575v plug!!!!). Yeah... that's a big ass plug.

helladudebro · 09-25-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by S14_Kouki

lol supplies I just wear a tshirt and a lincoln auto dark I know its really bad for me but o well

yea like i said i would just wear a sweatshirt to cover up up with but its required for the class.

anyone else have any opinions?

atutt · 09-25-2009, 09:45 PM

^As long as all your exposed skin is covered up by something relatively thick, you'll be okay.

If you weld with exposed skin. You're asking for burns. And they are FAR WORSE than any sun burn. (Or so I'm told. i've never had a sun burn :S ).
And it's a real easy way to develop skin cancer. The choice is yours. I prefer not to have skin cancer. the shit you breath in from welding is harmful enough as it is.

Read the box your welding wire comes in. Most of them have a fairly nasty list of known side effects. Like blindness and s-s-s-s-s-s-s-speech impediments.

longfellow · 09-26-2009, 07:57 PM

I dont weld enough to ever have been burned. Its never been an issue for me. But I'm only using a small mig welder. I live in central florida so I dont want to hear about humidity.

xpertsnowcarver · 09-26-2009, 08:11 PM

It was my understanding one was to weld butt-naked.... with socks...... mask is optional.

Okay... nuff joking. To me, and what I'm currently being taught, its pretty much a cardinal rule to cover up completely. I suppose if you are very experienced and have complete control/confidence in your work, just a good pair of gloves is fine.

Man I am envious of some of the finished products I see in this thread.

duffman1278 · 09-26-2009, 08:45 PM

Never again will I weld exposed. Last time I did it was because it was hot. I saw this other dude at school though who was welding with no gloves, jacket, just a t-shirt and pants. Now that I look back I just think he was an idiot even though he had some really nice welds.

As much as those gloves and leather jackets bug, it's so worth it, I burned myself already once on a hot metal tube I was welding and that was not fun. Live and learn, always wear protection!

KA-T_240 · 09-26-2009, 11:32 PM

Welding helmets, who wears those?

*kingkilburn* · 09-27-2009, 12:25 AM

So the lesson of the day is. . .

No love with out the glove

and jacket
and mask

and pants

yokotas13 · 09-27-2009, 04:50 AM

so i have a project upcoming.

gotta raise the inner fender rail. any suggestions on thickness to use?

GSXRJJordan · 09-27-2009, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

so i have a project upcoming.

gotta raise the inner fender rail. any suggestions on thickness to use?

Cool project

On S-chassis, usually those sections are between .040" and .060", depending on how many sheets are pinch-welded together. I'd say to replace it with approx the same thickness, .060" is overkill for just about anything.

.060" mild steel is very easy to weld and work with, shouldn't have any problems. Just try and get both sides of the frame rail clean of underbody coating/dirt/etc (I use a flap wheel whenever possible) before you weld and you shouldn't have any problems.

yokotas13 · 09-27-2009, 06:37 AM

awesome, thanks

S14_Kouki · 09-27-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

^If you guys aren't covering up bare skin, you guys are idiots. Whether you burn or not.

It's probably one of the DUMBEST things ANY welder can do.

Like I said O well

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

so i have a project upcoming.

gotta raise the inner fender rail. any suggestions on thickness to use?

Is this what you have already got done??

yokotas13 · 09-27-2009, 01:27 PM

nooooo. thats what i need to replicate

S14_Kouki · 09-27-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

nooooo. thats what i need to replicate

oooooooo well good luck man looks fun

S14_Kouki · 09-27-2009, 06:51 PM

in other news I finished up the srt 4 DP

Then the microwave caught on fire ahahahahahahah

Then we fab up these sweet ass stickers lol

longfellow · 09-27-2009, 07:57 PM

I'm working on making a seat for my friends 73 CB350 Cafe Racer.

09-24-2009, 11:49 PM	#2256
duffman1278 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covina Age: 36 Posts: 2,844 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: duffman1278 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I've used the harbor freight one and for 50$ I honestly couldn't complain as it did it's job pretty good however the thing I didn't like about it was that the face part just seems to stick out pretty far. I used a different mask that my school had and I was able to get into tighter spots and look at my welds closer, since I was TIG welding a chasis and the tubing can create some small spaces to work in. I heard these are really great, obviously because they're miller but just the overall use of it. Miller - Performance™ Series Welding Helmets __________________

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xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	It was my understanding one was to weld butt-naked.... with socks...... mask is optional. Okay... nuff joking. To me, and what I'm currently being taught, its pretty much a cardinal rule to cover up completely. I suppose if you are very experienced and have complete control/confidence in your work, just a good pair of gloves is fine. Man I am envious of some of the finished products I see in this thread. __________________ My YouTube Channel

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duffman1278 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covina Age: 36 Posts: 2,844 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: duffman1278 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Never again will I weld exposed. Last time I did it was because it was hot. I saw this other dude at school though who was welding with no gloves, jacket, just a t-shirt and pants. Now that I look back I just think he was an idiot even though he had some really nice welds. As much as those gloves and leather jackets bug, it's so worth it, I burned myself already once on a hot metal tube I was welding and that was not fun. Live and learn, always wear protection! __________________

09-26-2009, 11:32 PM	#2271
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09-23-2009, 08:08 PM	#2252
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Just got done mocking up WG

09-24-2009, 10:55 PM	#2253
helladudebro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: portland Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hey guys sorry i dont have anything to post up...yet. im about to start a welding class at my college and need some opinions on welding helmets/jackets. anyone have any good recommendations for someone just starting? I welded in high school but all the gear was supplied. pics of my hopefully awesome welds to come! oh first post too

09-24-2009, 11:30 PM	#2255
helladudebro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: portland Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea usually id just wear a sweat shirt or something (i know not the smartest thing to do) but a leather jacket is required. also i am going to be buying a welder of my own in the next couple months so id like to get a helmet that is decent but not to expensive.

09-25-2009, 12:56 AM	#2257
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Question: I had to leave my 220v mig at my other house. New house does not have a welder, but Harbor Freight has a 110v mig for less than $80. Just really want it to weld a camera bracket on my cage to film in-cabin runs and for exhaust and other misc brackets. Will this cut it? I would also like to be able to weld aluminum pipe, but a mig setup for aluminum costs a lot of money. So if I bought a stick welder instead can they even weld aluminum? I thought I remembered seeing some AL sticks at tractor supply one time, and no, not those propane torch AL sticks.

09-25-2009, 02:35 AM	#2258
STR8E180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 317 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	we just finished of a twin scroll turbo kit 2day so thought i would post up some pictures of it turned out very nice merge collector manifold runners are pretty close to being the same length twin tial external gates anyways ill let the pictures do the rest of the talking

09-25-2009, 06:19 AM	#2260
STR8E180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 317 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not that i know of we have done a few setups and neva had any boost control problems

09-25-2009, 04:17 PM	#2263
longfellow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Area Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You get used to the splatter burns eventually. I just wear gloves and a auto-dark helmet.

09-25-2009, 09:45 PM	#2267
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 38 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^As long as all your exposed skin is covered up by something relatively thick, you'll be okay. If you weld with exposed skin. You're asking for burns. And they are FAR WORSE than any sun burn. (Or so I'm told. i've never had a sun burn :S ). And it's a real easy way to develop skin cancer. The choice is yours. I prefer not to have skin cancer. the shit you breath in from welding is harmful enough as it is. Read the box your welding wire comes in. Most of them have a fairly nasty list of known side effects. Like blindness and s-s-s-s-s-s-s-speech impediments.

09-26-2009, 07:57 PM	#2268
longfellow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Area Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I dont weld enough to ever have been burned. Its never been an issue for me. But I'm only using a small mig welder. I live in central florida so I dont want to hear about humidity.

09-27-2009, 12:25 AM	#2272
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So the lesson of the day is. . . No love with out the glove and jacket and mask and pants __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

09-27-2009, 04:50 AM	#2273
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	so i have a project upcoming. gotta raise the inner fender rail. any suggestions on thickness to use? __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

09-27-2009, 06:37 AM	#2275
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	awesome, thanks __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

09-27-2009, 01:27 PM	#2277
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	nooooo. thats what i need to replicate __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

09-27-2009, 06:51 PM	#2279
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	in other news I finished up the srt 4 DP Then the microwave caught on fire ahahahahahahah Then we fab up these sweet ass stickers lol

09-27-2009, 07:57 PM	#2280
longfellow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Area Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'm working on making a seat for my friends 73 CB350 Cafe Racer.