The 2020 Presidential Race

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Please don't go on. You're just proving a hilarious point for the rest of us.

Fix your post.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Sorry, I missed a closing bold script and had to add a word to a sentence to clarify.

*Edit* I keep forgetting to include something: you need to remember that I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a hardcore leftist. The Dems aren't my homies and I've voted for exactly one in my life.

I don't hate Trump and think you're brainwashed because I love Joe Biden. I hate Trump and think you're brainwashed because Trump is deserving of hate and you're brainwashed.

[zombiewolf513]

Youre about as coherent as joe biden.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

So despite the fact the absolute, and I mean abso-fucking-lute, number-one contributor to the drug trade is smuggling through border checkpoints, you and your candidate want a wall?

And what?

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

What about immigration reform? Have you seen the process? Have you been friends with people trying to go through the process?

The Waifu is an immigrant, so yes, I'm well aware of the system, cost and time. Not sure what you argument is. Immigration to the US isn't a right and we should not be allowing people to subvert the legal process.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Do you know how many white 16-year-old kids in SoCal are out in beat-up pickups doing yard care?

So glad you have the typical racist Californian belief that immigrants are only able to mow yards, watch children and drive taxis.

Also glad to know you don't understand supply-and-demand. "White people won't mow yards" is actually "people who can make $20/hr don't work for $10/hr".

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Do you know how many non-illegals are driving without insurance?

Yes, I do, and what?

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Do you know how much the industrial sector has shrunk since 2000?

Yes, I do, and what?

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Do you know how much money was sent back to home countries by naturalized citizens compared to illegal aliens?

Yes, I do, and what?

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

You're talking to someone else. I didn't get my healthcare reform.

Except you did.
https://www.healthcare.gov/
"The Affordable Care Act (ACA), formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and commonly known as Obamacare, is a United States federal statute enacted by the 111th United States Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. Together with the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 amendment, it represents the U.S. healthcare system's most significant regulatory overhaul and expansion of coverage since the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965."

If you don't like what you people did, maybe you should be supporting Trump instead...

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Because you need to have children to understand sex ed. I mean actual sexual education, going over the fact that nothing is infallible and that danger exists. Understanding the difference between contraceptives and birth control. Assisting at-risk teens is a net return on investment and, guess what, lowers abortion rates. You love babies, right?

A complete deflection. You made the statement "conservatives are afraid of sex ed". I clearly articulated what the conservative issue is with the recent changes in public education and sex-education. You completely deflected and did not in anyway respond to that credible concern.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

This is rich. I'ma frame this.

Are you challenging the facts, or just laughing them off because they are inconvenient?

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

There isn't much to understand. We have a secular government. There is no church of woke. See, more fear- "they're trying to change the way we do things! It's not fair!"

Do we? Where in the constitution does it say that? It says we shall not establish a church. You would actually need to be educated in some history to understand this context. Maybe some theology and philosophy as well.

Go read up on the Church of England, English Civil War, Protestant Civil War, Mary, Elizabeth, etc.

Also, do you believe your rights come from God or the Government? If it's the latter, you don't have rights, just granted privileges.

As for "Church of Woke".

Woke absolutely has become a religion. It's complete with it's doctrines, dogmas, cannon, martyrs and saints. It's filling that emotional void and need for purpose that was once filled by traditional Christian Churches.

Plenty of research papers, articles, videos and discussion has been down about it. More than happy to link it if you actually cared. Hell, the Wokeans even have "Witch Hunts" running around Twitter trying to expose the non-believers and heretics.

Your responses continue to show a lack of greater understanding on any of these subjects.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

*REEEEEE DEFLECT!!! RREEEEEEE!!*

Exactly what I expected.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Did kill a foreign dignitary in a sovereign nation, so not for lack of trying!

Again, Ignorance. Credible sources indicated back channel communications with Iran and US took place in Switzerland with Iran giving the go-ahead to eliminate a General Soleimani who had gone rouge and was a threat to Iranian leadership and middle eastern stability. Since his death, the recent up tick of terrorist activity in Iraq has dropped. Iran's "retribution" by shooting some rockets into the desert seems to collaborate this information.

It's not like Trump took your teams advice to kill a few hundred Iranians over a Drone or to Murder their legal leader in an illegal undeclared war plunging the most successful African country into chaos and anarchy. Thus creating the largest humanitarian desaster of the 21st century complete with open air slave trading. #ForeignBlackLivesDon'tMatter #JusticeforGaddafi #Sayhisname #SetbackwomensrightsinLybiaby500years #Alohasnackbar

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

How exactly can you stop antisemitism if KSA maintains as much power as we've given them? Do conservatives forget KSA was behind 9/11?

Why didn't Obama invade them? To busy bowing to the Saudi King?


Why did Obama then help overthrow our allies like Mubarak and supported the destruction of Libya and Syria - both of whom have done fuck all to us in the last 30 years.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

And yet... our trade deficit didn't lessen and in some instances grew larger.

So just give up and suck the commie dick?


First GOP member to take a stance on illegal immigration and actually follow through.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

If pissing his pants about rape and then locking up kids is a stance, I can imagine why you're supporting him.

So... you support sexual exploration of women and minors? You think rape is a joke?

Locking Children up? What are you talking about? Are you referencing Obama's Administrations policy on separating illegal migrating children from adults until it can be determined their identities and relations? Standard practice even for American citizens - you and your kids get arrested, they don't drop them off with you in general population.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Super de-escalated.

Yeah Bruh.

First President that Putin has not invaded a foreign country while in Office

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Because Putin's afraid or...

Sure as fuck knew Obama, Biden and Clinton wouldn't do shit when he took half of Ukraine... at least Hunter's computer sheds some light on that.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

First President to support the Quad

Three-wheelers were unsafe anyway.

Wait, you are so ignorant you think I am talking about power sports?

*insert your deflection passing this as a joke*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadri...urity_Dialogue

Also, #fakenews on the ATC / 3-Wheeler. Go read up the topic and long term research shows injury rates have increased per population with ATV / 4-Wheeler (which are also higher then Dirt Bikes).

An ATV is very easy to ride and therefore inexperienced dumb-asses get on them and hurt themselves. Bikes and Trikes require some skill and the learning curve keeps off the most simpleton and easily injured of riders.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Yes. Obama never spoke openly or directly to the people.

#Prompter&Chief

[deolio]

Originally Posted by Corbic

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...es-it-matters/

Did you actually read that article or just copy and paste the first article that popped up on google that had a title to suit your bias?

Direct Democracy - Citizens vote for laws to be enacted. (ex: Prop. 22, 14, 69, 420, whatever the fuck)
Republic - Citizens vote for representatives who decide which laws to enact. (ex: Trump, Pelosi, Jorgensen, Kanye, whoever the fuck)

We do both. Mmmmkayyyyy???

Thanks for another deflection instead of actually answering anything. This shits like trying to get a straight answer about how a vase got broken from an abused toddler with ADHD and a glue huffing problem.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by deolio

Words

So what is your point? What is your argument?

It's 2020, in theory we don't need a representative Government. Technology is at a point that every topic you can think of could be dealt with by unanimous vote.


Deolio: Proposes "Nuke Korea!"
America: Press 1 to Nuke, Press 2 to Not-Nuke.

305 Million Note Nuke
25 Million Nuke

The "Not Nuke" have it.

Anyone could propose a law, policy or how to spend tax money, and we can all then up or down vote it.

But I think you understand how that would ultimately go.

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Restructuring of NAFTA and TPP (huge)

Getting out of TPP was largely symbolic and represents a loss of economic control of China by being written out of economic influence within China's geographic trade bloc.

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Except he didn't do it. The Left that lost have been doing it since they still refuse to except the 2016 Election results.

You can't show a single law or policy that Trump has enacted to support any of that dribbling bullshit. You had a spontaneously planned pussy hat March the day after he was sworn in because he was going to "destroy women's rights".

What right had he destroyed? What single anything has happened to women since he was elected?

Racism? Care to highlight anything? We're so "non-racist" that every major national hate crime has been a fucking Hoax. Mizzu, Duke, Smullet, Wallace, all fake.

Police Hunting Blacks for sport?! Again, an exaggerated fake narrative that can't be substantiated with data. Mind you, this narrative goes back to 2012 with "that could have been my son" and the great burnings of Ferguson and Baltimore. Glad those cities are fixed now.

Its all that Kenyan's fault!

[deolio]

Originally Posted by Corbic

So what is your point? What is your argument?

I wasn't talking about all this bullshit to begin with or trying to argue whether America is a Republic or a Democracy. Purely just stating the electoral college is bullshit. If voting for a president is a vote for an elector whom you know little to nothing about and there isn't an option to select a different elector, your vote is essentially a crap shoot. I don't like it. The end.

Doing away with the electoral college and implementing ranked voting would open the door to a lot of political diversity, which would be good for America. It would lead to less stagnation in congress and it would nullify the notion of throwing away your vote if you vote third party. Unless you're just trying to maintain the status quo, I don't see any downside.

[Future240]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...p_in_2020.html

[S14rebuild]

^watched it when he posted it..... alot of good points..biggest one is the left has gone soooooo far left..u leave alot of people no choice.

[kingkilburn]

The US is a Constitutional(adjective) Democratic(verb) Republic(noun). You can't knock one of the three legs out and pretend the table still stands.

Your constant insistence that rules and facts only matter when they are convenient to you is disgusting and the root cause of America's dysfunction.

P.S.
The American "left" is literally politically center, leaving a lot of people no choice. These people you think are leftists don't even know any leftists and have never met a leftist.

[Corbic]

Anyone else think Whiturd is trying to look like a Super Villain?

[kingkilburn]

Definitely something only insurrectionists think...

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/GEom0X4HkXI

[SupaDoopa]

'Voting the way we want.'

If you think this election isn't going to be rigged, this is the easiest way to do it. Dumping ballots into battleground states to sneak a win or two that will prove to win the election.

I figured this is pretty obvious.

[Future240]

https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/21/d...election-2020/

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/6HShhoT4dsI

[kingkilburn]

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles...-paths-to-ruin

[deolio]

Is this the "post a link and don't say anything about it" thread now?

[zombiewolf513]

https://youtu.be/xfr64zoBTAQ

[deolio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZuN0xXWLc

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by deolio

Is this the "post a link and don't say anything about it" thread now?

Oh, did you think this thread was worth a shit?

[Future240]

Second debate.

It was two old men who basically had a dick measuring contest and both came up short.

Neither actually laid out any real policy. It was just a bunch of "I did this and he didn't do anything!"

[Future240]

Second debate.

It was two old men who basically had a dick measuring contest and both came up short.

Neither actually laid out any real policy. It was just a bunch of "I did this and he didn't do anything!"

[deolio]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Oh, did you think this thread was worth a shit?

No, but it's a lot more fun to argue when people post opinions.

Originally Posted by Future240

Neither actually laid out any real policy. It was just a bunch of "I did this and he didn't do anything!"

Typical

[kingkilburn]

You want an opinion to argue about? Sacramento isn't NorCal, and is in fact part of the dreaded CenCal.

[zombiewolf513]

"Abraham Lincoln, over here, is one of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history."

Joe STAAAAAHP

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Future240

Second debate.

It was two old men who basically had a dick measuring contest and both came up short.

Neither actually laid out any real policy. It was just a bunch of "I did this and he didn't do anything!"

Would have to disagree with this...

Trump very clearly stated multiple times what policys he has set and achieved durning this term. Examples... leaving the paris accord, having other countries finally hold up there end in nato, removed 123 strike laws. Also stated what he has done for minorities such as black college funding, prision reform. These were made clear from trumps side. Biden choose to stay broad on many topics. What he did go in on(which i beleve will hurt his campaign) is discussing fracking qnd him phasing it out. He actually challenged trump on this and well proof is in the videos posted all over.

I beleve this debate was moderate mostly fair(not qlot of follow up questions/specific questions towards biden) both candidates were respectful, both spoke to their bases.

I do wish there was some form of fact checking allowed or candidates should "call one another out" siting sources or even media content... that way us as voters could weed thru the bullshit. And not he said this, no i didnt..blah blah.

I wont go into who won or lost the debate, but i will say trump showed others a more respectful side of himself and thats a postive.


Thats my ramblings and thoughts

[deolio]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

You want an opinion to argue about? Sacramento isn't NorCal, and is in fact part of the dreaded CenCal.

Oooo them?s fighting? words!

One diSTINKtion is it doesn?t smell like shit outside everywhere here. Other than that, you got me.

I wish they?d just split California into two states. Draw a line south/east from Santa Barbara to Yosemite that excludes Bakersfield and I?d be happy

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

I do wish there was some form of fact checking allowed or candidates should "call one another out" siting sources or even media content... that way us as voters could weed thru the bullshit. And not he said this, no i didnt..blah blah.

That would be hilarious. Just have a little buzzer that sounds when things they say are false.