Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[frsh4]

Originally Posted by Lukasss

If i need to ask in the random question thread i will, but this is pretty much a fitment question
Does anyone know the specs of the wheels on this vehicle?


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/...6ce06b51_z.jpg

18x10 -5 and 18x9 +1

[Lukasss]

Originally Posted by frsh4

18x10 -5 and 18x9 +1

Thank you sir

[daftphunk]

I'm sure I already know the answer to this question..
But over most of the bumps in the road, my rears are rubbing. Happens all the time.
Is the only way to remedy this solution to pull/roll the rears out some more? And smaller tire?

I am gonna swap out my 235/40 for a 225/40 in the rear and was thinking that it would help, but I haven't gotten around to doing it yet.

[95KA-Turbo]

Originally Posted by daftphunk

I'm sure I already know the answer to this question..
But over most of the bumps in the road, my rears are rubbing. Happens all the time.
Is the only way to remedy this solution to pull/roll the rears out some more? And smaller tire?

I am gonna swap out my 235/40 for a 225/40 in the rear and was thinking that it would help, but I haven't gotten around to doing it yet.

You can try hammering the inner fender metal with a hammer and spray paint over it so if it rubs more you can do a pull or add more camber.

[frsh4]

More camber, more pull, or smaller tire. Easiest and and less costly way is rolling/pull unless you dont have a heat gun which should be that expensive anyways.

[hellion240sx]

okay got some numbers so help me out guys. I think I sort of got it not too sure yet.

1. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maxi...ml#post4247532
2. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maxi...ml#post4248528

anyone else wants to take a shot?

when I measured with the 3" I added it to the side wall height. Is that right? Or am I supposed to add it to the side of the actual sidewall?

[frsh4]

Originally Posted by hellion240sx

okay got some numbers so help me out guys. I think I sort of got it not too sure yet.

1. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maxi...ml#post4247532
2. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maxi...ml#post4248528

anyone else wants to take a shot?

when I measured with the 3" I added it to the side wall height. Is that right? Or am I supposed to add it to the side of the actual sidewall?

Not to be an a-hole here but seriously your just over calculating this. Its just 15s and you have an s14 which can fit so much under stock body. I didnt read post of your post and just skimmed it so sorry if im completely wrong. I agree explain plain and simple what you wanna do.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Wait, what the hell are you trying to do? You're linking a whole page so I'm not comprehending what you're even trying to fit in.

Post up wheels size with offset, tire sizes you're planning on running and what chassis.

[Irresistible]

Thinking about pulling my S14 quarter panels by an inch or so to help get rid of the -4* of camber I have with my 17x10j+18 wheels. Would I be able to tuck after I pull the quarters, without having to run useless camber again?

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by Irresistible

Thinking about pulling my S14 quarter panels by an inch or so to help get rid of the -4* of camber I have with my 17x10j+18 wheels. Would I be able to tuck after I pull the quarters, without having to run useless camber again?

There's no real measurement for cause and effect with pull & camber so you would really just have to eyeball it. Theoretically though, yes, pulls relieve some of that negative camber business.

[hellion240sx]

flip/frsh the two links were to the two posts of detailed specs. here we go:

This is what i got from willitfit.com:
old/new
Diameter 615mm 606mm
Circumference 1932.1mm 1903.8mm
Poke 42.6mm 101.6mm
Inset 122.6mm 101.6mm
Speedo error 0% 1.49%
Reading at 30mph 30mph 30.45mph
Reading at 60mph 60mph 60.89mph
Ride height gain 0mm -4.5mm
Arch gap loss 0mm -4.5mm

rimnsntires.com
old/new
Wheel size 15x6.5 ET 40 / 15x8 ET 0
BackSpace 135 mm (5.3'') / 114 mm (4.5'') 21 mm (0.8'') shorter.
Rim Lip / 59 mm (2.3'') wider
Typical Weight ~ 15 lbs / 7 kg ~ 18 lbs / 8 kg
Tires: Tire 1 / Tire 2
Tire size 195/60-15 / 225/50-15
Section width 195 mm (7.7'') / 225 mm (8.9'')
Sidewall 117 mm (4.6'') / 113 mm (4.4'')
Tire diameter 615 mm (24.2'') / 607 mm (23.9'')
8 mm (1.3%) shorter.
Rim sizes 15x5 to 15x7 / 15x6.5 to 15x8.5
Circumference 1931 mm (76'') / 1906 mm (75'')
Revs per mile 833.4 / 844.4
Speedometer Assuming that this is OEM tire and speedometer readings are correct >>> When speedometer reads 60mph (96.6km/h) actual speed will be 59.2mph (95.3km/h): 1.3% slower.

So how would I go about seeing if I will hit lock to lock and not rub? height wise it looks like a go from both sites just not sure about hitting c/o's, inner fender, etc. can someone help me out please. thanks!

acutually it gives to reading from the speedo. well from the two diff sites....
I have a stock s14 with these:

specs 15x6.5 +40 stock tires are 195/60/15 4 LUG.
like so but with usdm front:

Well I measured just now and it looks like it will fit... Thats what she said... but I measured on the front most area of the tire and the back most area of the tire as well. I measured again with the wheels turned to full lock I added 3" to the side wall height. Is that right? I'm trying to get this guys, really I am.

aslo added the 1010tires.com calculation in here as well.
Current Wheel Specs Width: 6.5 inches, Offset: 40mm
New Wheel Specs Width: 8 inches, Offset: 0mm
Inner Clearance: 21mm MORE (the inside of the wheel to the strut housing)
Outer Position: EXTEND an extra 59mm (position of the outside edge of the wheel)

[kouki-gymkhana]

Trying to run 18x9.5+14 up front on an s13 with oem Silvia fenders. I am aware that I will have to break out the BFH and go to work on the wheel wells but I am trying to run as much tire up front as possible (235/40 direzza star specs). The car will not be super low as it still has to be functional and I'm willing to run as much as 4 degrees of camber up front if I can get it with slotted lower mounts and maxed camber plates. Coil overs are a custom ground control/Koni setup. What would be the optimal tire size and how beefy are the star specs? Would 225/40 be a better option? Rears are 18x10+20 and I'm planning on 235/40 or 255/35 Star specs. Fenders and susp arms are stock for now but I plan on a roll and mild pull. Thoughts on which size would be best?

[zooopreme]

^not entirely sure what you're asking...those wheels will not hit the coilover...if that's what you're asking.

[frsh4]

So your trying to fit a 15x8 +0 on your S14? What tire size you gonna run? Or is that your question?
Seems like your comparing your previous wheels to the new 15x8 +0 to see if your gonna rub the wheel wells?

[hellion240sx]

correct 225/50/15x8 +0 I just don't want to have to pull or roll the fenders. it's stock height >>at the moment<<
From the pic that zoom posted:

That 17x8 +30
did the math with +0 and doesn't look like the above pic in any way... so that's why I am trying to figure out with 15s if it will work (since it's 2" smaller)

[frsh4]

Originally Posted by hellion240sx

correct 225/50/15x8 +0 I just don't want to have to pull or roll the fenders. it's stock height >>at the moment<<
From the pic that zoom posted:
That 17x8 +30
did the math with +0 and doesn't look like the above pic in any way... so that's why I am trying to figure out with 15s if it will work (since it's 2" smaller)

What are you so worried about then?

[hellion240sx]

well I want to make sure I'll be fine now, and later when I go lower. trying to do the research now, and not learn along the way. make sense?

*** only mod I have done are the inner and outer tie rods*** I do have all the other suspension pieces and have a few more to order.

remember AT THE MOMENT


i want to do it all at once instead of piece bby piece. I figure thats the best way to do it

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by hellion240sx

well I want to make sure I'll be fine now, and later when I go lower. trying to do the research now, and not learn along the way. make sense?

*** only mod I have done are the inner and outer tie rods*** I do have all the other suspension pieces and have a few more to order.

remember AT THE MOMENT


i want to do it all at once instead of piece bby piece. I figure thats the best way to do it

You're over analyzing this shit too much. 2 things you gotta look out for. Make sure whatever rims/wheel setup you go for, always shoot for the same overall diameter as the stock OEM wheels (205/55-16s for S14). That way there wont be too much surprises. 2nd thing, look around what people are running. Go look up wheel offset calculators and compare what you want to run to what others have run and find out the difference. 8j +0 is pretty fucking cake on S14s.

PS: if you want shit to fit/flush/line up with the fenders, you're gonna have to roll the fenders atleast. Tires will probably touch the fenders once you lower it so theres not much butts or ifs about it.

[hellion240sx]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

You're over analyzing this shit too much. 2 things you gotta look out for. Make sure whatever rims/wheel setup you go for, always shoot for the same overall diameter as the stock OEM wheels (205/55-16s for S14). That way there wont be too much surprises. 2nd thing, look around what people are running. Go look up wheel offset calculators and compare what you want to run to what others have run and find out the difference. 8j +0 is pretty fucking cake on S14s.

PS: if you want shit to fit/flush/line up with the fenders, you're gonna have to roll the fenders atleast. Tires will probably touch the fenders once you lower it so theres not much butts or ifs about it.

yeah I figured that I am over thinking it.
That's why I am asking you experts for help I just want to do this right the first time.
not trying to go 16"s-24"s.
not looking to slam/mod slam either.
Don't want to roll or pull fenders.
and i know I can fit lots of sizes under the stock fenders, but we are talking about 0 offset
my stock oem wheels were 195/60/15.6.5 +40
I mean I got that height wise they will fit if you look on the willitfit looks like its hitting on the actual suspension components. I see on rims and tires, again, It's shorter. But I don't know how to use the other numbers to figure out how it's going to fit once its on the car. Been going here for years Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 4 of 4 put in the numbers there as well. doesn't show the tire width wise.

[zooopreme]

In my defense, I was going by what I found-- the owner of that S14 posted those specs so I went with it. Now that I think about it, the wheels may have had some spacers. But the original offset must have been +30.

0 offset will provide you with a lot of poke. Stock height, lowered height, slammed height, it doesn't matter, the car will have major poke because of that 0 offset.

Fitment issues come about with calipers, outer fender clearance, and inner fender clearance. The spoke design, disc design, the ride height, the wheel size, the tire size ALL are components to what fitment is all about.

Obviously 15X8 +0 isn't going to need a pull/roll at stock height because well, the car doesn't have to worry about contact with the wheel at all. If you plan on lowering the car an inch or two & there is wheel gap, you'll STILL be fine. No roll/pull will be needed.

[hellion240sx]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

In my defense, I was going by what I found-- the owner of that S14 posted those specs so I went with it. Now that I think about it, the wheels may have had some spacers. But the original offset must have been +30.

0 offset will provide you with a lot of poke. Stock height, lowered height, slammed height, it doesn't matter, the car will have major poke because of that 0 offset.

Fitment issues come about with calipers, outer fender clearance, and inner fender clearance. The spoke design, disc design, the ride height, the wheel size, the tire size ALL are components to what fitment is all about.

Obviously 15X8 +0 isn't going to need a pull/roll at stock height because well, the car doesn't have to worry about contact with the wheel at all. If you plan on lowering the car an inch or two & there is wheel gap, you'll STILL be fine. No roll/pull will be needed.

thank you zooopreme. Looks like thats the answer I was looking for. I have stock calipers, pads, rotors, lines, fluid. bought are the ss lines, hawk pads, d/s rotors, dot 4 fluid just not installed, YET! as far as brake set up goes.
Lowered an inch or two is all I'll probably do anyway.

[RB_240_420]

I have an S13 on some Tien HE coilovers. I'm looking into getting some wheels and I was looking at something around the area of 17x10 with about a +0 to +15 offset. My goal for the tire set up is grip, I would like to get some sticky tires that will put all my ponies to the ground. I'm thinking the 17x10s will go on all four corners.

What kind of good tire sizes am I looking at for a grip set-up here? And am I looking at any fitment issues with these up front? (It would be preferred if I could fit 300z brakes behind them in the long run)

[95KA-Turbo]

Originally Posted by RB_240_420

I have an S13 on some Tien HE coilovers. I'm looking into getting some wheels and I was looking at something around the area of 17x10 with about a +0 to +15 offset. My goal for the tire set up is grip, I would like to get some sticky tires that will put all my ponies to the ground. I'm thinking the 17x10s will go on all four corners.

What kind of good tire sizes am I looking at for a grip set-up here? And am I looking at any fitment issues with these up front? (It would be preferred if I could fit 300z brakes behind them in the long run)

If you want a good grip set up for a S13 get some 17X9 +22s and run 245/40 Nitto NT05s all around. You'll probably have to do a slight pull all around for that.

[RB_240_420]

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

If you want a good grip set up for a S13 get some 17X9 +22s and run 245/40 Nitto NT05s all around. You'll probably have to do a slight pull all around for that.

I just want to make sure I can clear the coilovers and not lose any of my steering capability.

Also, do I need to use a space with this wheel?

[bentmode360]

how many of you are drooping the rear? and is it safe? because im maxed out in the rear and i really want the tucked look.

[Wake]

Originally Posted by bentmode360

I really want the "current' look.

Bane of my existence.

[bigrobg21]

stock with 15x8's 195/50/15 how to make this look more flush?Attachment 29782

[zooopreme]

Caliper clearance is dependent on spoke/disc design so you would have to see if the wheels that you plan on purchasing will be able to fit them in there.

As for your tire questions: http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maxi...nt-thread.html --that's where you want to be searching.

0 offset & +15 will not clear coilovers so you would need to have spacers. And with that aggressive size, you will need tubs for the fronts, a roll, and a pull (or overfenders)

[zooopreme]

^For the set up that Knoop provided, you don't need spacers.

[95KA-Turbo]

You will need to beat out your front fender wells to not rub at full lock, but that isn't a big deal. You'll also need to relocate your fender harnesses, there are lots of write ups for that online. Both of those modifications are standard for lowering a S-chassis with wide wheels and tires.