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Night drifte89 · 10-23-2013, 11:08 PM

I have a 1jz non vvti and I am purchasing a serpentine belt without ac and it asks me "hydro fan or clutch fan" and I was wondering what the deference is. Which one I should purchase?

Options13 · 10-24-2013, 02:06 AM

does anyone know where to find the stock internal wastegate for the 1jz vvti turbo?

I tore the diaphragm in mine and just need something that will work.

anyone have any suggestions..?

shiftdrift · 10-24-2013, 03:55 AM

I have one I can sell you. Off my stock ct15

shiftdrift · 10-24-2013, 03:56 AM

Do you have a hydro fan or clutch fan?

waste_of_space · 10-24-2013, 06:12 AM

I know where to find one Devin... Get a large aftermarket turbo! ;p
I'll keep an eye out for a wastegate for you though!

2jzs14 · 10-24-2013, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prok0

You could run a Z33 6spd, they are pretty stout and easy to find, and Collins Performance makes an adapter plate for it.

Is this what they're going for now?!?!

Zerolift Autolab · 10-24-2013, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Options13

does anyone know where to find the stock internal wastegate for the 1jz vvti turbo?

I tore the diaphragm in mine and just need something that will work.

anyone have any suggestions..?

Potentially Interested in a TOMEI Turbo Upgrade?
Please let me know if you may be interested.

Also I have a good used stock 1JZ VVTI Turbo also.

BiG MiKE86 · 10-24-2013, 12:30 PM

GOing to try this radiator hard pipe by CX Racing... hopefully it fits as well as they show!

Cxracing Aluminum Radiator Water Hard Pipe Kit 89 98 240sx s13 s14 1JZ 2jz | eBay

Black R · 10-24-2013, 05:36 PM

So after letting my s13 sit for a couple months, I put all new braided lines on the ps system and now have no leaks! Yay!

I also replaced the battery and decided to take it for a spin around the block - until I realized that it won't go into gear now for some reason?!

It was shifting smooth before I parked it, so wtf?

I took a couple quick vids of the clutch slave motion:

So what gives?

It will go into every gear when the car is off, but when the motor is running, it won't go into any gear!

The clutch master is full of fluid...

And I've never had a problem with the clutch or shifting, etc...

Mister.E · 10-24-2013, 05:42 PM

Same exact thing happened to my friend once. His Exedy clutch disc had fused to the flywheel from a hard day at the track on a clutch that he never broke in properly. Im not sure what you were doing to the car before you parked it, but it's just a suggestion.

Black R · 10-24-2013, 06:03 PM

^ I was driving like I was ferrying ms daisy around.

Maybe something got surface rust on it and seized up? :/

Black R · 10-24-2013, 07:09 PM

I fixed it, using the method in this thread:

Car won't go into gear after burn out

Basically I put it in gear with engine off and then pressed in clutch while turning the key to start it.

It took a few tries, but then made a clanging noise and broke free!

Thanks SF!

ivantheterribl3 · 10-25-2013, 10:12 AM

So I've been strongly considering chucking this junk ar in favor of a 2j. I have a line on vvti 2j's for a good price. One guy I talked to whos opinion I respect told me to save myself some future money and trouble and just find a regular gte. Has anyone here spent time to weigh the pros and cons of each motor? I know aem haltech and a few others are making ecus with vvti support now, and I fully intend to chuck the fly by wire whenever I move to a standalone. but is it significantly cheaper to extract power from the older motors? I've been searching the web but haven't found toooo much info on it. Thanks

rswails · 10-25-2013, 10:47 AM

I researched it a bit in the past. Read below from this same thread.

http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/3841...ml#post5438817

I'm in process of swapping the 2jz gte VVTi version right now and I'll let you guys know some wiring details. I don't think it'll be harder than non vvti wiring honestly. It's just that there isn't much info specifically on the wiring, but using the non VVTi wiring info out there will help some along with the aristo pinouts.

ivantheterribl3 · 10-25-2013, 11:38 AM

Thanks for the input. I'm a little worried about the lack of an aftermarket at the moment, but its going to be a stock swap for a while. Aftermarket for the vvti 1j has grown quite a bit as it gains popularity, so I'm betting the same will happen with the 2j. At least hoping it does by the time I'm ready for a single and an ecu haha.

Drink&Drift · 10-25-2013, 11:58 AM

Non-VVTI's are getting harder and more expensive to find, at least in good shape, but if you can find one for a good price, i think its a much better option then going with the VVT-I, alot more straight forward, and tons of aftermarket for it.

VVT-I's on the other hand are generally a little cheaper, because there is less of a demand and more of them, and alot of people have used them with great success.

rswails · 10-25-2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drink&Drift

Non-VVTI's are getting harder and more expensive to find, at least in good shape, but if you can find one for a good price, i think its a much better option then going with the VVT-I, alot more straight forward, and tons of aftermarket for it.

Having less aftermarket is only a problem if you really need something that isn't available. Standalone engine management, and aftermarket cams are available that work for the VVTi version. What part do you know of that is great that isn't available on VVTi version?

ivantheterribl3 · 10-25-2013, 12:20 PM

Its more like a lack of options for the budget baller. I've got a couple other vehicles to maintain and a mortgage to pay. From what I've seen and understand ecus with fbw and vvti control are a bit pricier, and I can imagine your cam options are limited and pricey. These aren't crippling factors for the motors overall viability though. And like I said, I'm sure those issues will be addressed as they have been for the 1j. As long as there aren't any horrible, glaring issues with the vvti, I will likely go that route. Unless my importer can cut me a hella deal on a non vvti.

waste_of_space · 10-25-2013, 12:53 PM

Arthur, read up on that link I posted earlier. There is a ton of information regarding vvti wiring.

wilbo666 [licensed for non-commercial use only] / 2JZ-GTE VVTi JZS161 Aristo Engine Wiring

Black R · 10-25-2013, 06:53 PM

Ivan, what are your goals and intended usage?

If you merely want 500whp, and a broader flatter Tq curve, then a vvti gte sounds like the hot ticket - newer motor and better down low oomph + better top end right?

CooleyXXXIII · 10-25-2013, 08:18 PM

can anybody help me find a shifter extension for a w58 please ?

turbob16ef · 10-25-2013, 08:58 PM

^^^^
Driftmotion. I know a couple people on sf, and cl do it.

93egallmotor · 10-26-2013, 08:51 AM

ive searched the entire thread....twice. cant seem to find a concrete answer. im in the process removing the A/C compressor on my NON vvti 1jz. do i need a special support bracket to do so? all i could find was that it is needed for a 2j, any help would be mucho appreciated.

ivantheterribl3 · 10-26-2013, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black R

Ivan, what are your goals and intended usage?

If you merely want 500whp, and a broader flatter Tq curve, then a vvti gte sounds like the hot ticket - newer motor and better down low oomph + better top end right?

This will be going in my drift car. Looking for a reliable engine with power potential enough to hang with the LS guys. 2j seems like the obvious choice. Also want to be able to expand power gradually without removing the engine or doung any tear downs. Minimal down time. Also the sr's peaky power band can be a nuisance. Getting sick of 14hp til 4.5k then BAM 300.

My main concern with the vvti is cost of aftermarket. I want to be competetive and make events, but I also have a mortgage to pay.

kalel540 · 10-26-2013, 05:47 PM

Well, almost all together again. A couple of bolt-ons and I am in business.
Next step is Getting Get nuts lab's mounts and drive shaft.

xoxide · 10-26-2013, 06:07 PM

Ive yet to figure out what the hell this thing is. Is it a map sensor? I cant find any other thing that looks remotely close to the map sensor on my car.

Its got a very long vacuum hose connected to it.

ivantheterribl3 · 10-26-2013, 06:09 PM

Definitely a map. Or someother kind of (emissions related) pressure sensor. But more likely map

ATLspeed · 10-26-2013, 06:27 PM

Xoxide - That is your map sensor.

xoxide · 10-26-2013, 07:00 PM

Awesome, appreciate it. Its been stumping me for a few days now. It has "3 bar" written on the back of it also.

BiG MiKE86 · 10-26-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93egallmotor

ive searched the entire thread....twice. cant seem to find a concrete answer. im in the process removing the A/C compressor on my NON vvti 1jz. do i need a special support bracket to do so? all i could find was that it is needed for a 2j, any help would be mucho appreciated.

should be the same - take it apart and find out

10-24-2013, 02:06 AM	#2882
Options13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: OR Posts: 1,825 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	does anyone know where to find the stock internal wastegate for the 1jz vvti turbo? I tore the diaphragm in mine and just need something that will work. anyone have any suggestions..? __________________ Drift team page www.facebook.com/savageimpression

10-24-2013, 03:55 AM	#2883
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 33 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	I have one I can sell you. Off my stock ct15 __________________ SW Fab

10-24-2013, 03:56 AM	#2884
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 33 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	Do you have a hydro fan or clutch fan? __________________ SW Fab

10-24-2013, 12:30 PM	#2888
BiG MiKE86 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Age: 38 Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	GOing to try this radiator hard pipe by CX Racing... hopefully it fits as well as they show! Cxracing Aluminum Radiator Water Hard Pipe Kit 89 98 240sx s13 s14 1JZ 2jz \| eBay __________________

10-24-2013, 05:36 PM	#2889
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So after letting my s13 sit for a couple months, I put all new braided lines on the ps system and now have no leaks! Yay! I also replaced the battery and decided to take it for a spin around the block - until I realized that it won't go into gear now for some reason?! It was shifting smooth before I parked it, so wtf? I took a couple quick vids of the clutch slave motion: So what gives? It will go into every gear when the car is off, but when the motor is running, it won't go into any gear! The clutch master is full of fluid... And I've never had a problem with the clutch or shifting, etc... __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers

10-23-2013, 11:08 PM	#2881
Night drifte89 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Wadena Minnesota Posts: 388 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a 1jz non vvti and I am purchasing a serpentine belt without ac and it asks me "hydro fan or clutch fan" and I was wondering what the deference is. Which one I should purchase?

10-24-2013, 06:12 AM	#2885
waste_of_space Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	I know where to find one Devin... Get a large aftermarket turbo! ;p I'll keep an eye out for a wastegate for you though!

10-24-2013, 05:42 PM	#2890
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	Same exact thing happened to my friend once. His Exedy clutch disc had fused to the flywheel from a hard day at the track on a clutch that he never broke in properly. Im not sure what you were doing to the car before you parked it, but it's just a suggestion.

10-24-2013, 06:03 PM	#2891
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ I was driving like I was ferrying ms daisy around. Maybe something got surface rust on it and seized up? :/ __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers

10-24-2013, 07:09 PM	#2892
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I fixed it, using the method in this thread: Car won't go into gear after burn out Basically I put it in gear with engine off and then pressed in clutch while turning the key to start it. It took a few tries, but then made a clanging noise and broke free! Thanks SF! __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers

10-25-2013, 10:12 AM	#2893
ivantheterribl3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: wheaton, md Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So I've been strongly considering chucking this junk ar in favor of a 2j. I have a line on vvti 2j's for a good price. One guy I talked to whos opinion I respect told me to save myself some future money and trouble and just find a regular gte. Has anyone here spent time to weigh the pros and cons of each motor? I know aem haltech and a few others are making ecus with vvti support now, and I fully intend to chuck the fly by wire whenever I move to a standalone. but is it significantly cheaper to extract power from the older motors? I've been searching the web but haven't found toooo much info on it. Thanks

10-25-2013, 10:47 AM	#2894
rswails Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Columbia, SC Age: 44 Posts: 128 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I researched it a bit in the past. Read below from this same thread. http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/3841...ml#post5438817 I'm in process of swapping the 2jz gte VVTi version right now and I'll let you guys know some wiring details. I don't think it'll be harder than non vvti wiring honestly. It's just that there isn't much info specifically on the wiring, but using the non VVTi wiring info out there will help some along with the aristo pinouts.

10-25-2013, 11:38 AM	#2895
ivantheterribl3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: wheaton, md Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for the input. I'm a little worried about the lack of an aftermarket at the moment, but its going to be a stock swap for a while. Aftermarket for the vvti 1j has grown quite a bit as it gains popularity, so I'm betting the same will happen with the 2j. At least hoping it does by the time I'm ready for a single and an ecu haha.

10-25-2013, 11:58 AM	#2896
Drink&Drift Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida / Norway Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Non-VVTI's are getting harder and more expensive to find, at least in good shape, but if you can find one for a good price, i think its a much better option then going with the VVT-I, alot more straight forward, and tons of aftermarket for it. VVT-I's on the other hand are generally a little cheaper, because there is less of a demand and more of them, and alot of people have used them with great success.

10-25-2013, 12:20 PM	#2898
ivantheterribl3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: wheaton, md Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its more like a lack of options for the budget baller. I've got a couple other vehicles to maintain and a mortgage to pay. From what I've seen and understand ecus with fbw and vvti control are a bit pricier, and I can imagine your cam options are limited and pricey. These aren't crippling factors for the motors overall viability though. And like I said, I'm sure those issues will be addressed as they have been for the 1j. As long as there aren't any horrible, glaring issues with the vvti, I will likely go that route. Unless my importer can cut me a hella deal on a non vvti.

10-25-2013, 12:53 PM	#2899
waste_of_space Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Arthur, read up on that link I posted earlier. There is a ton of information regarding vvti wiring. wilbo666 [licensed for non-commercial use only] / 2JZ-GTE VVTi JZS161 Aristo Engine Wiring

10-25-2013, 06:53 PM	#2900
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ivan, what are your goals and intended usage? If you merely want 500whp, and a broader flatter Tq curve, then a vvti gte sounds like the hot ticket - newer motor and better down low oomph + better top end right? __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers

10-25-2013, 08:18 PM	#2901
CooleyXXXIII Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 30 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	can anybody help me find a shifter extension for a w58 please ? __________________ Insagram: CooleyXXXIII

10-25-2013, 08:58 PM	#2902
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 35 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^^^ Driftmotion. I know a couple people on sf, and cl do it.

10-26-2013, 08:51 AM	#2903
93egallmotor Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: MD Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive searched the entire thread....twice. cant seem to find a concrete answer. im in the process removing the A/C compressor on my NON vvti 1jz. do i need a special support bracket to do so? all i could find was that it is needed for a 2j, any help would be mucho appreciated.

10-26-2013, 06:07 PM	#2906
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Ive yet to figure out what the hell this thing is. Is it a map sensor? I cant find any other thing that looks remotely close to the map sensor on my car. Its got a very long vacuum hose connected to it.

10-26-2013, 06:09 PM	#2907
ivantheterribl3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: wheaton, md Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Definitely a map. Or someother kind of (emissions related) pressure sensor. But more likely map

10-26-2013, 06:27 PM	#2908
ATLspeed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Eden, MD, USA Age: 37 Posts: 921 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: ATLspeed Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Xoxide - That is your map sensor. __________________ 93 s13 Vert - 2jz/cd009 -- parted/sold 95 Supra Turbo

10-26-2013, 07:00 PM	#2909
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Awesome, appreciate it. Its been stumping me for a few days now. It has "3 bar" written on the back of it also.