Drift entrance techniques/form

[nieko]

http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t...5_03_14_30.mp4

Dont pay attention to the first run people... hahahah

but MIKE look at my one manji on the second run i didnt upshift though, all second.

[recklessrob]

Originally Posted by nieko

jimmy2010_06_15_03_14_30.mp4 video by dr1f7t - Photobucket

Dont pay attention to the first run people... hahahah

but MIKE look at my one manji on the second run i didnt upshift though, all second.

that was a thug one-manji.

[Maiku240sxS14]

Originally Posted by nieko

but MIKE look at my one manji on the second run i didnt upshift though, all second.

Duuuuude, teach me!!

[Brian]

That's sick Nieko, I always wanted to do that.
Are you running a KA?

[Maiku240sxS14]

^ IF that's the Tits comp event, he has an SR.

[Brian]

I cannot even imagine doing it like that with a KA, so if he did. WOW, my hat is off to you.

[roboticnissan]

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Like any other racing, outside to inside and back outside. just take the apex.
SOHC, 15x8's about 4 years ago. welded diff, shocks and springs.

i feel that when i go to balcony events ppl dont pay attention to the lines and thats a huge reason why new guys cannot complete the entire traack. its not just a outside inside to outside line. some of the angles you decide to come in will help you to drift thru the track much easier while using all the power you have. like in your video, you hit the first clipping point which id say over half of the ppl dont hit. that imo is the most important clipp cuz it sets you up for the rest of the track.

hope this makes sense

[ericcastro]

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

i feel that when i go to balcony events ppl dont pay attention to the lines and thats a huge reason why new guys cannot complete the entire traack. its not just a outside inside to outside line. some of the angles you decide to come in will help you to drift thru the track much easier while using all the power you have. like in your video, you hit the first clipping point which id say over half of the ppl dont hit. that imo is the most important clipp cuz it sets you up for the rest of the track.

hope this makes sense

Im actually really off the initiation outside point, and the inside point, in that video
But I didnt fully trust the other driver i was following. (as you can see for good reason, he pulls out,lol)
i tighten the line up towards the end.

Its not just at Balconey.
I see it everywhere.
People forget its about line and control.
They think cause they can lay the most smoked out sweeping drift they are killing it.
To me, thats just one step ahead of a NOS show burnout contest.

[Brian]

I think one of the coolest things at Balcony is trying to hit that first "clipping point" super close.

[roboticnissan]

my first event at balcony was in a sohc stock as can be suspension, i couldnt for the life of me hit the whole track until i found my intiation point for the inside. but yah brian the first inside clipp is sick as hell.

i just figured we should touch on drift lines as well as techniques. its as important as car set up if not more important

[Brian]

The way I would hit Balcony is to grip through the back corner and full throttle it until I hit third gear. About a second after I hit 3rd, I'd aim a little outside and do a big clutch kick and turn in and ride that until I hit the first clip. Then I'd bring it down to second and transfer the other direction and feather through the throttle until I went all the way around and back down the straight.

If I came in too shallow on the first clip, I'd extend it out with the hand brake and clear the cone.

[T chop]

Originally Posted by Maiku240sxS14

Duuuuude, teach me!!

This ain't a negotiation.........

[240sxvaj]

i wanna start my first pratice soon.......just gotta get some tires lol! and ofcourse a good teacher

[recklessrob]

Originally Posted by Brian

That's sick Nieko, I always wanted to do that.
Are you running a KA?

he did it with a pretty much stock(open downpipe/header) single cam multiple times before he got his sr and 17's. ive done it with a pretty much stock(open downpipe/header) dual cam on 16's a couple times. its doable fo sho. both of our cars were relatively dialed-in suspension wise.

[Brian]

wow, impressive. I've never ever thought it was possible to do. Maybe I just never had the "extra" power since I only used 17s or 18s on the back.

[recklessrob]

Originally Posted by Brian

wow, impressive. I've never ever thought it was possible to do. Maybe I just never had the "extra" power since I only used 17s or 18s on the back.

wheel diameter makes a huge difference, tire width and circumference does too. iirc nieko was running a 185 60 15 in the back, maybe a 195... not sure. i was running a 205 50 16.

[Brian]

interesting. Yall got video? I'd love to see it.

[recklessrob]

Originally Posted by Brian

interesting. Yall got video? I'd love to see it.

i know i dont have any vids of myself, nieko may have one... idk. its pretty much the same thing as the one he already posted but with less angle and more ebrake lol. sometimes double or even triple ebraking lolz

[nieko]

hahah video is floating around SOMEWHERE... id have to search.

and yea i was running 195/60/15.

Most people think you need to flooor it into the last clip to do that.

but even with the single cam i would make sure i hit the clip just right hold it a little longer, then full throttle, then another clutch kick hahaha

and then cluctch kick on each switchback, last part was a long ebrake slide for suuuure.

sr you dont need to ebrake as much

[recklessrob]

oh and niekos sr is stock except for a lightweight flywheel, no clutch fan, and hks wastegate actuator set to like 10 psi or something low and i think he's on 235 40 17's in the back.

[jspec240]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

I had no idea he got pinked..
He can still post being pinked, at least I could when I was pinked.lasted a month.

Thanks gabe for trying to smooth things out but he took it too far.

It wasnt just s**k my ****** it was the beginning where for 2 pages all he talked about was how he didnt like my thread. I actually do and have learned a lot. so all i did was say if you dont like my thread then dont post. thats when he got " offended "??? haha I think anyone would be pissed for commin up on your thread sayin its usless and didnt like it, then talk crap to half the people on there and then keep posting.

If you guys read the whole thing Im sure you will see why it got out of hand and I definitely didnt start it.

crazyrob got what he deserved.

Im having gymkahana practice at buttonwillow speedway on sat 25. if anyone would like to get a whole day in of practice PM me. Im renting the skid pad out which is pretty big. you can get some 3rd gear drifts in. 10 vehicles allowed, 60$ per person, and 25$ for other drivers. we set up many different obstacles so you wont be bored and take Ideas. Im bringing water, music, we have stands, and bathrooms for any one that wants to go to watch. great time for practing or beginners.

Im not a pro but have been drifting for 10 years so I can give some helpful pointers.

PM me if you would like to go, heres info on where buttonwillow raceway is located. Plans could change to willowsprings, I will posted.

[ericcastro]

Originally Posted by jspec240

crazyrob got what he deserved.

lol, right now i am laughing

[jspec240]

why so funny??

It is what it is.... and Im over it.

I didnt get on for a day and didnt see what was going on so I had to post my last comment but its done.

[jspec240]

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

my first event at balcony was in a sohc stock as can be suspension, i couldnt for the life of me hit the whole track until i found my intiation point for the inside. but yah brian the first inside clipp is sick as hell.

i just figured we should touch on drift lines as well as techniques. its as important as car set up if not more important

I agree we've talked about it but need more.

[yokotavia]

Originally Posted by nieko

as far as the ebrake technique. there is NO need to be pushing the brake pedal.

i disagree. footbraking with ebrake helps alot when you need to slow down and/or increase angle.

and left foot braking helps alot when you need to bring the rear of the car around while your still on the gas.

[recklessrob]

Originally Posted by yokotavia

i disagree. footbraking with ebrake helps alot when you need to slow down and/or increase angle.

and left foot braking helps alot when you need to bring the rear of the car around while your still on the gas.

i think what nieko meant is that the rear wheels should lock up with the ebrake without using the front brakes to add rotation. there should be no NEED to use the front brakes to make the rears lock. good call: footbraking+ebraking=win for slowing down and/or increasing angle.

[GabeS14]

I guess it's a good thing that my ebrake was shit when I started. Made me learn using feint and power only. I kinda like that.


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[yokotavia]

ebrake/left foot braking is defiantly needed for alot of shit. really needed for tandem too

[fckillerbee]

regarding mike's post....

and that is why you need to be IN the car when we drive. I'm sure if I set up a cone, and said....you need to be drifting by this cone...i'm sure you'll have no problem...but its a "faith" thing in your car...you just have to trust yourself....orrrr.....try and do a complete manji....from the key hole out, upshift to third with a clutchkick, and that'll be your initiation....look up forest wangs videos from balcony...that man does it all day long in his s13.4.

yeah BH....i saw nieko do it all day....one manji the back...i believe you have to enter it in a certain speed, cause for the life of me....i couldn't make it. lol. but then again...i've never tried doing it without trying to spin 18's...

But it is possible.

[yokotavia]

are you talking to me? hope not...because your talking about speeding up and upshifting/clutch kicking and im talking about ebraking/slowing down