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07-23-2010, 02:45 AM | #1 |
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noah's ark in the christian belief
is this forreals do christians really believe that dinosaurs were around during the time of noah's ark... i read about that in one of my friends super christian propaganda comics he gives to kids.
Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark? wtf thats crrazzzy |
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07-23-2010, 06:19 AM | #4 |
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07-23-2010, 07:09 AM | #5 |
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uh no, christians don't believe that dinosaurs were on the ark. I've never heard of that before. That page is wack. Where it says "vertebrates," it should be assumed that meant vertebrates that were alive at that time. Huge "duh!"
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07-23-2010, 07:10 AM | #6 |
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I think dinosaurs stems more from the term beasts in the bible. There are so many ways to interpret bible verses and ideals.
Kind of related, prehistoric creatures still exist to date... just saying. |
07-23-2010, 07:27 AM | #9 |
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you're issue isnt with the fact that people believe this guy built a huge boat and put 1 of every animal on it on earth in it, but that it may or may not of had dinosaurs on it?
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07-23-2010, 07:30 AM | #10 |
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That mankind and dinosaurs inhabited the Earth at the same time untill the Flood came and wiped them out so that Mankind could inherit the and take rule over the Earth Christianity like many other religions and cults are divided into different sects. Some handle snakes while others speak tongues, while others believe the Earth in not 2 billion years old, but more like 6,000 years old. This belief stems form the Creation story in Genesis most of which you guy will already know quite well. That the Earth was created in 6 days and on the 7th God rested. The 6,000 number comes from another bible verse that states 1 day with god is equal to 1,000 years. So it gets interpreted as such. And as much as this sounds like hog wash there are very valid arguments on both sides of the debate 1 being the inaccuracy od radio-carbon dating past 600 years. Radio carbon dating has long been held as the gold standard in dating fossil and ancient relics. But as fate would have it it is very inaccurate after the 600 year mark and things known to have been made as close as 50 years ago have come back as 45,000 years old. This is fact as science knows it. And studies have proved the inaccuracy of carbon dating. So truth is there is know way to know how old the Earth is. The Universe is a much different story though. As we all should know by now the farther a object is away from the Earth the longer it takes light to reach our telescopes. And we can accurately date the light the reaches us into a few million years or so. But on Earth there really is no way to accurately date any object other then direct observation or documentation. I would go into more detail that supports the 6,000 year theory, and i can go into detail the supports the traditional "the Earth is 2.5 billion year old" theory. Truth is no one fucking knows. Not yet at least. Not until we can accurately date fossil records and geographic formation. Hope this helps some of you guys out. /wall |
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07-23-2010, 08:13 AM | #16 |
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usually people who believe in this think that the earth is only a few thousand years old and our interpretation of geology and fossil record is wrong. hence the whole "humans being around with dinosaurs" bit.
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07-23-2010, 09:38 PM | #20 |
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crocodile are prehistoric came from the same tree decent as dinorsuars. shouldn't they be labels as dinosaurs too.?
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07-26-2010, 12:53 PM | #22 | |
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If Dinosaurs really did exist during the time of Noahs ark then can the creationist making this claim present any sort of evidence besides using Blind faith? |
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07-26-2010, 01:48 PM | #23 | |
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Let's not get into blind faith because science is about blind faith too, you just don't see it. |
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07-26-2010, 03:34 PM | #24 | ||
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No scientist or well informed atheist will ever claim they know absolute truth, but they will say we have more evidence. Also, keep in mind that atheism is not a religion, we aren't bound by any ideology or belief. In fact you don't need a reason to be atheist. I'm almost certain this confusion is from Faux News. Quote:
What? So, what exactly is it about science that is based on blind faith? |
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07-26-2010, 03:12 AM | #25 |
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There are groups of religious people that truly believe that dinosaurs and evolution is fake and they have a museum to brainwash their kids. I mean, religion is cool and all, but once a person uses his or her religion and throws out common sense and morality, that's stupidity. One can still believe in something and still also believe in logic and reasoning.
One can believe in God, and also hold caution that most things that one hears throughout his or her life is utterly false because these things are retorted by other people. Life is all about what you hear, what you've been told, and what others present to you. You have to filter out all the junk (like you would if you were downloading a song) to see which is full of viruses and dead info. Find the ones that work and makes you happy. You can't just say that you believe in 100% of everything one religion says because in life, my friends, nothing is 100%, and that my friends is the only 100% truth. So: 1. Dinosaurs real 2. Evolution real 3. Noah's ark fake 4. Religion - I know the truth. You decide. |
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07-26-2010, 04:23 AM | #27 |
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It's not entirely about education. Certain types of people no matter how much education they receive are always going to spew nonsense. Likewise some very well educated people always spew nonsense because they rely on education from all the wrong sources, or are just really full of themselves.
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07-26-2010, 01:18 PM | #28 |
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Some religious people (the ones they make fun of in the news) discount evolution, when in fact many who devote their lives to studying the bible feel it is something designed by God. I doubt we mutated from apes, but mutation is really close to evolution, and mutation is evident - so you decide. But don't be too hard on these religious people, as they are no better than the scientist/atheist crowd who claim to know absolute truth.
On the other side of the spectrum, the science-as-religion folks argue against a God, yet science constantly proves them wrong. For example, SCIENTISTS (who make guesses that atheists accept as fact) recently wrote that many dinosaurs may have had feathers... not scales. So basically overnight an atheist's religion was changed. This feather issue makes sense, as we can see remnants of such mutation (evolution) in birds... their feet are reptilian, as is the skin around there eyes (and have you seen a parrot's tongue?!). Our C14 dating systems were designed with what we know, like computers, and we all know how human designed technologies often fall short. The truth often lies in the middle. Don't close your minds! |
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