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SimpleS14 · 09-06-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chmercer

damn you went from 1k grit straight to compound? brutal.

I wanted to use some 2000 grit, but I got lazy haha.

burukan · 09-06-2006, 11:53 PM

was wondering the ratio of mineral spirits to paint you used? did you dilute the gallon, or just a smaller amount per use ?

ms!3 · 09-21-2006, 06:09 PM

looks hott, roller ftw, i did the same thing

**ThatGuy** · 09-21-2006, 06:45 PM

Look at the skin of an orange, then go look at a poorly painted or un-wet-sanded paint job. All your questions will dissappear.

Eric240sx1990 · 09-21-2006, 11:47 PM

very interesting...

looks nice man! props on that!

What were your outside temps when doing this?

I plan on doing a spray job on my car now that I have a compressor

, just need a hvlp gun.

SimpleS14 · 09-22-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by burukan

was wondering the ratio of mineral spirits to paint you used? did you dilute the gallon, or just a smaller amount per use ?

Really don't have a ratio to follow, it depends on the weather and quanity your mixing. But if you need some type of guidance, I started off with 1 part paint, 2 parts mineral spirit. I mixed in a seperate container.

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Originally Posted by Eric240sx1990

very interesting...

looks nice man! props on that!

What were your outside temps when doing this?

70-80 degrees with humidity around 60%

sepulchral · 09-22-2006, 02:56 PM

how long does paint like this last and i looked couldnt find the cure time? simples14 u ever on aim i tried to im you

mikesim · 09-22-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by undesiredshoe

On the hood, is that bird poo or something with the paint??

it's the washer nozzle opening.

being in the autobody business teaches you many things. you CAN make a rolled on paint job look like someone sprayed it with a SATA HVLP 2000 if you take the time to wetsand the paint. orange peel on stock nissans nowadays are terrible.

good job man. if you keep at it with the wetsanding and remove all the orange peel, you'll have a show quality look to it. orange peel is super hard to see in pics, but the hood looks great. that final polish will give it some gloss, although not as much as having some clear on it. single stage enamels are designed to have a glossy finish.

ixfxi · 09-22-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesim

it's the washer nozzle opening.

being in the autobody business teaches you many things. you CAN make a rolled on paint job look like someone sprayed it with a SATA HVLP 2000 if you take the time to wetsand the paint. orange peel on stock nissans nowadays are terrible.

good job man. if you keep at it with the wetsanding and remove all the orange peel, you'll have a show quality look to it. orange peel is super hard to see in pics, but the hood looks great. that final polish will give it some gloss, although not as much as having some clear on it. single stage enamels are designed to have a glossy finish.

Show quality? NO.

Acceptable? Depends what the person's standards are.

Would I ever do it? NOPE.

Respect for all the time and effort, but there's just better ways to do things.

*ManoNegra* · 09-22-2006, 05:20 PM

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Respect for all the time and effort, but there's just better ways to do things.

Right you are. But the key word here is "cheap".

Ninjabread · 09-22-2006, 07:21 PM

Mano FTW...

fckinmsglenght

ms!3 · 09-22-2006, 07:21 PM

what did you do about the swirl marks, what compound?

**ThatGuy** · 09-22-2006, 07:23 PM

It has NOTHING to do with color, and everything to do with TEXTURE. Are you sure you can figure this out by yourself?

ms!3 · 09-22-2006, 07:26 PM

^^^lol, i feel stupid now

i just figured out what it was. lol i just saw the word orange and thought that orange peel was orange on the car. feel free to flame.:hammer:

**S13SilviaGirl** · 09-22-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MS!3

well i could kind of figure that out but how do you get orange peel from white paint?

seriously, earl schiebe it...$300. Done.

DrtyRat · 09-22-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MS!3

well i could kind of figure that out but how do you get orange peel from white paint?

Obviously not. What ThatGuy is saying is the bumps in the paint that occur from bad paint jobs is similar to what the texture of an orange peel looks like.
understanding a basic comparison>You
edit...........
OK now you post that while I decided to respond...so I take it back

ms!3 · 09-22-2006, 07:33 PM

lol, well mabey since theres been like 5 new posts on the same thread is like 5 mins you missed my response, but i did say feel free to flame. but i get it now. just not thinking right i guess.

'90RPS13 · 09-22-2006, 07:39 PM

Very clean. I would be dow for it but I have way to many dents and dings. Maybe get them pulled out and then take a shot? *a

fromxtor · 09-22-2006, 08:18 PM

I say do it alec, we're practicing on a 240 hood when I get home

sepulchral · 09-22-2006, 11:51 PM

imo i think that looks amazingly good and i may consider doing it, i never keep my cars longer than a year anyways, that looks great

Indolent · 09-23-2006, 01:37 AM

looks good man, you make me want to do my whole car, it made me decide to try it out on my fenders, but with a spray can instead (thought it'd be faster/better)

^ my fender(s) I did the spray can job, yes it literally looks that glossy, just too bad i don't have a buffer so it could've been better, and there is absolutely no orange peel, oh and yes it's BLACK too haha, but it didn't really take me long, only letting it dry overnight took me the longest, wet sanding wasn't bad (time-wise)

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-23-2006, 12:02 PM

I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER (X INFINITY) DO THAT SHIET AGAIN!!!

Im one of those impatient bastards plus my elbows still hurt to this day from all the in between coats wet sanding...

Yes spray paint is easier but the catch is...6-8 months down the road...that black paint aint gonna be black no more. Imagine it an offset of gray and brown at the same time. Trust me I know, my car was rattlecanned before the roll on, now it got a somewhat legit paint job for $300.

From this...

to this...(rattle canned semi-gloss)

to this...(roll-on with the 2-tone funk...i got lazy masking the windows)

to the final paint when i try to sell it again...

corey240 · 09-23-2006, 01:38 PM

thes paint jobs arent bad at all. i wish they had a close color to my green. im thinking aobut doing this to my zenki s14. would you guys that have done this happen to know what the best shade of that paint they have to be close to oem as possible?and i mean the red not the green bumper...

Indolent · 09-23-2006, 01:49 PM

www.paintscratch.com
expensive but i hear good things about it

gotta240 · 09-23-2006, 08:16 PM

Simple. I gotta hand it to you. You're the man. GREAT looking paint job at a fraction of the price.

You're one of the only badass DIY guys on here who ISN'T a total dick!

I've appriciated your online help from times of doing my kouki conversion to picking an mp3 player. thanks!

luckyrb13 · 09-23-2006, 09:20 PM

Iam doing my s14 as well. But iam doing the body work my self and taking it to quality shop where they know how to spray. so far its been a week and iam almost ready to take it to the body shop. Ive spent about 200 hundred on prep materials and iam lookingto spend about 500 on paint and about 300 hundred to get it sprayed. it should come out real nice iam taking pics the whole time so i can post it when its all done. Still got to hand it to simple s14 came out pretty nice for so cheap.

bardabe · 09-23-2006, 10:05 PM

Alright I'm gonna do this. defently my paint is so fucked its nto even cool. so what color should I do Black or White? its an S13 Coupe with Silvia Front. All OEM Panels. I have a Big ass Aitrcompressor (about 6ft tall) dunno how many gallons btu its huge. and a gravity fed Airgun. what do you guys think???? any Opinions or advice. besides taking my sweet ass time.

Silverbullet · 09-29-2006, 07:10 AM

I know this is S14 SImple's thread and i dont want to steal his thunder but i wanted to share with everyone the potential of patience.

BEFORE:

---->
2 layers on the hood, 1 layer on the fenders. All done at night. The fenders were done on the 2nd night where i applied the 2nd layer on the hood. I mixed the paint too thin that day and there is a slight amount of run on my fenders but no biggy. I am not complaining, its better than flatblack.

AFTER:

:thumbup:

it looks pretty good in person too, well the panels that had more coats on them atleast. The most coats, the better. People who see my car in the parking lot at work everyday has commented on my paint job and asked if it was a Maaco job (looks good but not show perfect.)

SimpleS14 · 09-29-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gotta240

Simple. I gotta hand it to you. You're the man. GREAT looking paint job at a fraction of the price.

You're one of the only badass DIY guys on here who ISN'T a total dick!

I've appriciated your online help from times of doing my kouki conversion to picking an mp3 player. thanks!

haha thanks man

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Originally Posted by luckyrb13

Ive spent about 200 hundred on prep materials

Excuse my curiousity...but what materials did you get?

Silverbullet - Progress is looking good...and I should remind the people that you used a Wagner gun vs. a roller.

SimpleS14 · 10-21-2006, 05:25 PM

OK

I had to bump this thread to let everyone know what I finished making a write-up. It's actually more like a journal IMO.

http://www.ss14.net/writeup_rollerpj.html

Let me know what you guys think...esspecially if there are any typos haha

09-21-2006, 06:09 PM	#93
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	looks hott, roller ftw, i did the same thing Last edited by ms!3; 04-11-2007 at 08:43 PM..

09-21-2006, 06:45 PM	#94
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 44 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Look at the skin of an orange, then go look at a poorly painted or un-wet-sanded paint job. All your questions will dissappear. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

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09-22-2006, 07:21 PM	#102
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	what did you do about the swirl marks, what compound? Last edited by ms!3; 04-11-2007 at 08:44 PM..

09-22-2006, 07:23 PM	#103
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 44 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It has NOTHING to do with color, and everything to do with TEXTURE. Are you sure you can figure this out by yourself? __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

09-06-2006, 11:53 PM	#92
burukan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami Age: 38 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	was wondering the ratio of mineral spirits to paint you used? did you dilute the gallon, or just a smaller amount per use ?

09-21-2006, 11:47 PM	#95
Eric240sx1990 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tx Age: 39 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	very interesting... looks nice man! props on that! What were your outside temps when doing this? I plan on doing a spray job on my car now that I have a compressor , just need a hvlp gun.

09-22-2006, 02:56 PM	#97
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how long does paint like this last and i looked couldnt find the cure time? simples14 u ever on aim i tried to im you

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ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	^^^lol, i feel stupid now i just figured out what it was. lol i just saw the word orange and thought that orange peel was orange on the car. feel free to flame.:hammer:

09-22-2006, 07:33 PM	#107
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	lol, well mabey since theres been like 5 new posts on the same thread is like 5 mins you missed my response, but i did say feel free to flame. but i get it now. just not thinking right i guess.

09-22-2006, 07:39 PM	#108
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 37 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Very clean. I would be dow for it but I have way to many dents and dings. Maybe get them pulled out and then take a shot? *a

09-22-2006, 08:18 PM	#109
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 43 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I say do it alec, we're practicing on a 240 hood when I get home __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

09-22-2006, 11:51 PM	#110
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	imo i think that looks amazingly good and i may consider doing it, i never keep my cars longer than a year anyways, that looks great

09-23-2006, 01:37 AM	#111
Indolent Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So. Cal, Riverside Area Posts: 1,110 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	looks good man, you make me want to do my whole car, it made me decide to try it out on my fenders, but with a spray can instead (thought it'd be faster/better) ^ my fender(s) I did the spray can job, yes it literally looks that glossy, just too bad i don't have a buffer so it could've been better, and there is absolutely no orange peel, oh and yes it's BLACK too haha, but it didn't really take me long, only letting it dry overnight took me the longest, wet sanding wasn't bad (time-wise)

09-23-2006, 12:02 PM	#112
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER (X INFINITY) DO THAT SHIET AGAIN!!! Im one of those impatient bastards plus my elbows still hurt to this day from all the in between coats wet sanding... Yes spray paint is easier but the catch is...6-8 months down the road...that black paint aint gonna be black no more. Imagine it an offset of gray and brown at the same time. Trust me I know, my car was rattlecanned before the roll on, now it got a somewhat legit paint job for $300. From this... to this...(rattle canned semi-gloss) to this...(roll-on with the 2-tone funk...i got lazy masking the windows) to the final paint when i try to sell it again... __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

09-23-2006, 01:38 PM	#113
corey240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cumberland, Maryland Age: 35 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	thes paint jobs arent bad at all. i wish they had a close color to my green. im thinking aobut doing this to my zenki s14. would you guys that have done this happen to know what the best shade of that paint they have to be close to oem as possible?and i mean the red not the green bumper...

09-23-2006, 01:49 PM	#114
Indolent Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So. Cal, Riverside Area Posts: 1,110 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	www.paintscratch.com expensive but i hear good things about it

09-23-2006, 08:16 PM	#115
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Simple. I gotta hand it to you. You're the man. GREAT looking paint job at a fraction of the price. You're one of the only badass DIY guys on here who ISN'T a total dick! I've appriciated your online help from times of doing my kouki conversion to picking an mp3 player. thanks!

09-23-2006, 09:20 PM	#116
luckyrb13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 76 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Iam doing my s14 as well. But iam doing the body work my self and taking it to quality shop where they know how to spray. so far its been a week and iam almost ready to take it to the body shop. Ive spent about 200 hundred on prep materials and iam lookingto spend about 500 on paint and about 300 hundred to get it sprayed. it should come out real nice iam taking pics the whole time so i can post it when its all done. Still got to hand it to simple s14 came out pretty nice for so cheap. __________________ ...FFF Club Far From Finished

09-23-2006, 10:05 PM	#117
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 34 Posts: 4,719 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Alright I'm gonna do this. defently my paint is so fucked its nto even cool. so what color should I do Black or White? its an S13 Coupe with Silvia Front. All OEM Panels. I have a Big ass Aitrcompressor (about 6ft tall) dunno how many gallons btu its huge. and a gravity fed Airgun. what do you guys think???? any Opinions or advice. besides taking my sweet ass time. __________________ Review Thread Last edited by bardabe; 09-24-2006 at 02:11 AM..

10-21-2006, 05:25 PM	#120
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 41 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OK I had to bump this thread to let everyone know what I finished making a write-up. It's actually more like a journal IMO. http://www.ss14.net/writeup_rollerpj.html Let me know what you guys think...esspecially if there are any typos haha __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.