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johngriff · 05-16-2007, 12:33 AM

***DISCLAIMER: This is posted in the premie section for a reason. If you do this, and you fry your shit, dont complain to me. I will be actively testing this, and will say yes this is safe after testing. If you repost this on another forum, i'll cut you. If you install this on someones car, and charge them money, I will find you, fly to you, and cut you. Wait until this becomes part of zilvia's public domain. That is why I am taking the time to write it.**********

***Rough***

Premise:

The SOHC tach works on a Pulse Per Minute basis, like the vss. The tach signal is based on the 12v Single coil signal, creating a sine arc pulse of 4 12v pulses per 360 rotation.

The DOHC/CA/SR Tach works on the same premise of Pulse Per Minute, yet uses a signal that is less than 12v's. Because of this the pulses are not accurately read by the 89-90 SOHC Tachometer because the voltage of each pulse it too low.

***This information needs to be verified using a Scope. If anyone (russ) would like to chime in on me being incorrect in my assumptions, do not hesitate to chime in. ***

Hypothesis:

There is another place in the Engines harness where a single 12v pulse per cylinder is present, the coil pack signal wire. With all four coil pack signal wire combined down to 1 wire it can be possible to replicate the desired tachometer signal of the 89-90 SOHC Tach.

Issues:

In combining the 4 signal wires together, the possibility for the signal to get mixed back down the harness is great. Hence, the signal from wire 1 being sent to 2,3 and 4 simultaniously. The corrective measure and fix would be to attach 12v high amp diodes to each signal wire after they have been spliced off of each consecutive signal wire. Placement, temperment to heat, and exact quality of said diodes is yet to be determined. Suggestions are recommended.

In practice:

I have applied this theory to function in two applications: the nissan 200sx (s12). Once with the ca18det and once with the SR20DET. This method accurately produced a useable tach readout.

Application:

The implementation of this is questionable. The coil pack harness is a rather fragile portion of the harness. Having the inexperienced installer use incorrect parts or bad wiring can cause damage. Testing MUST be done to speak to the longevity of a tachometer (hour/lifespan) using this method. Recorded scope's must also be taken before and after to confirm pattern to anticipate failures in devices.

I am more than open to suggestions, I picked up a fluke scope(standalone) and am still making my way through it (learning). I will start trying to map the SOHC signal sometime this week, afterwards I will be changing the engine, and mapping both the tach wire output and the new wired signal to compare/contrast results and gauge safety.

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johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	How to wire CA/SR Tach signal to 89-90 Cluster *DISCLAIMER: This is posted in the premie section for a reason. If you do this, and you fry your shit, dont complain to me. I will be actively testing this, and will say yes this is safe after testing. If you repost this on another forum, i'll cut you. If you install this on someones car, and charge them money, I will find you, fly to you, and cut you. Wait until this becomes part of zilvia's public domain. That is why I am taking the time to write it.****** Rough Premise: The SOHC tach works on a Pulse Per Minute basis, like the vss. The tach signal is based on the 12v Single coil signal, creating a sine arc pulse of 4 12v pulses per 360 rotation. The DOHC/CA/SR Tach works on the same premise of Pulse Per Minute, yet uses a signal that is less than 12v's. Because of this the pulses are not accurately read by the 89-90 SOHC Tachometer because the voltage of each pulse it too low. This information needs to be verified using a Scope. If anyone (russ) would like to chime in on me being incorrect in my assumptions, do not hesitate to chime in. ** Hypothesis: There is another place in the Engines harness where a single 12v pulse per cylinder is present, the coil pack signal wire. With all four coil pack signal wire combined down to 1 wire it can be possible to replicate the desired tachometer signal of the 89-90 SOHC Tach. Issues: In combining the 4 signal wires together, the possibility for the signal to get mixed back down the harness is great. Hence, the signal from wire 1 being sent to 2,3 and 4 simultaniously. The corrective measure and fix would be to attach 12v high amp diodes to each signal wire after they have been spliced off of each consecutive signal wire. Placement, temperment to heat, and exact quality of said diodes is yet to be determined. Suggestions are recommended. In practice: I have applied this theory to function in two applications: the nissan 200sx (s12). Once with the ca18det and once with the SR20DET. This method accurately produced a useable tach readout. Application: The implementation of this is questionable. The coil pack harness is a rather fragile portion of the harness. Having the inexperienced installer use incorrect parts or bad wiring can cause damage. Testing MUST be done to speak to the longevity of a tachometer (hour/lifespan) using this method. Recorded scope's must also be taken before and after to confirm pattern to anticipate failures in devices. I am more than open to suggestions, I picked up a fluke scope(standalone) and am still making my way through it (learning). I will start trying to map the SOHC signal sometime this week, afterwards I will be changing the engine, and mapping both the tach wire output and the new wired signal to compare/contrast results and gauge safety. __________________ [email protected]